PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
So i should drop my execute or my 2nd shield? Just for a hot to counter 1 specific armor 5 piece?
Thats Not what i consider balance
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
So i should drop my execute or my 2nd shield? Just for a hot to counter 1 specific armor 5 piece?
Thats Not what i consider balance
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
So i should drop my execute or my 2nd shield? Just for a hot to counter 1 specific armor 5 piece?
Thats Not what i consider balance
but ThEY gIVe uP a 5pC
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
So i should drop my execute or my 2nd shield? Just for a hot to counter 1 specific armor 5 piece?
Thats Not what i consider balance
but ThEY gIVe uP a 5pC
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
So i should drop my execute or my 2nd shield? Just for a hot to counter 1 specific armor 5 piece?
Thats Not what i consider balance
but ThEY gIVe uP a 5pC
bUt SlOaD rUiNs My 1Vx.......
If i drop my execute my burst becoming a really huge loss und it would be nearly impossible to kill a decent Player.
If i drop my Horness magicka i lose sustain and my only shield for main defense is hardened ward. Wich is about 13k-14k. Thats to low considering i have 21k hp under it with 0 resistences.
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
The problem for me is that i cant fit rapid regen in my bar.
Frontbar; crystal frag, force pulse, ward, rune prison, fury - meteor
Backbar: Healing ward, dark deal, streak, curse, harness magicka. - resto ult
Tell me what to replace.......
You can replace fury by rapid regen, and put curse on main bar.
You also replace harness for rapid regen if you want a new type of gameplay.
You can also use overload and put dark deal (+ mines) on it.
So i should drop my execute or my 2nd shield? Just for a hot to counter 1 specific armor 5 piece?
Thats Not what i consider balance
but ThEY gIVe uP a 5pC
bUt SlOaD rUiNs My 1Vx.......
It does but i guess as an UF member people don't understand the issue there
If i drop my execute my burst becoming a really huge loss und it would be nearly impossible to kill a decent Player.
If i drop my Horness magicka i lose sustain and my only shield for main defense is hardened ward. Wich is about 13k-14k. Thats to low considering i have 21k hp under it with 0 resistences.
If i drop my execute my burst becoming a really huge loss und it would be nearly impossible to kill a decent Player.
If i drop my Horness magicka i lose sustain and my only shield for main defense is hardened ward. Wich is about 13k-14k. Thats to low considering i have 21k hp under it with 0 resistences.
Take overload, it's a good solution.
Also, the damage from an overload light attack is the same than meteor, you can combo with it (mage light + curse + overload + rune cage + overload for exemple).
Overload will make you able to slot mines, bouldness strom, dark deal, surge, ect.
Ran shield breaker bow with Oblivion enchants. Wrecked a free sorcs, got wrecked by a lot sorcs. Got more t bags than usual.
Honestly most sorcs I encountered one on one were able to deal with shield breaker just fine. Even if I defiled them with incap.
Never played mag sorc so not sure what all the did. Did see mutagen or rapid Regen going off. Some had pets, not all. Most were running lightning form and I'm assuming surge, as a Stam sorc surge is a lot of my healing even in low crit builds. I assume mag sorcs run higher crit builds for better burst.
Just saying though, people complaining about shield breaker, its not as op as you claim. I've run it, was wrecked by many sorcs. It also was a wasted 5pc against anyone not running a shield.
sorry but you need to l2p before commenting here.
You don't even know what sorc does like you said, how do you want to beat them if you don't know what they do ?
Shieldbreaker alone is 21500 damage in 6s, add oblivion glyph and you are probably at 26k damage in 6s. No sorc can heal for 26k HP in 6s, even less possible while defiled.
If you aren't able to spam 10 times the left click, I'm sorry but you might think a lot to l2p.
PhoenixGrey wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »So how much have you been enjoying your new Sload toy? /sI died to this set solo am i the strongest sorc out there ? Definitely not ! there are hundreds of sorcs better than me but, im no the worst sorc either, and definetely not a “joke” . I didnt have a hot ability which im sure 99% of sorcs dont have it too. Sorc Shield, light armor shield and resto ward are my defences which i am pretty sure the designers of this game intended for sorcs to use them as class mechanic. The numbers of the sload dmg i took are crazy thats around 17 k dmg lol . I died and my shields were up if thats not broken to u then i dunno what to say. If they wanna make sets that go through shields then i got a suggestion even better : just delete shields from the game and light armor too. (U know coz in light armor with no shields but with 2k crit resistance we still take huge dmg like 4-6k from a spammable like pierce armor) so they better delete shields and la with it too. What a joke design of a game.
If you can't manage 853 damage per second, then you need to get good, sorry.
The only problem with this set is the fact it can be stacked. Alone, it's not overperforming.
Past a certain point one has to wonder how many of the snarky L2P parrots in the Sload threads are simply trying to keep their new shiney from being nerfed?
Your point might have been valid if all class specs had viable access to a strong direct heal/HoT, but they don't.
Ppl who tell sorcs to "just slot rapid regen" etc, should also keep in mind the opportunity costs. What's the oportunity cost of swapping say Shacklebreaker for Sloads, vs having to drop a skill (sorcs don't actually have the bar space anymore with frags nerf) for rapid regen (which won't even keep up with the oblivion dmg)? I susptect many ppl suggesting that are disingenuous, so it's a retorical question.
This is a l2p issue, really. Sload damage isn't a problem at all.
You know infused + oblivion glyph on weaving deal more damage than sload ? You coundn't survive someone with infused + oblivion glyph before summerset ?
853 damage per second is something you can deal with. HP regen, rapid regeneration, and the usual healing ward first heal tick + last heal tick is far enough to out heal 853 damage per second.
The issue is when getting xv1'd by sload spammers. Its a proc set meaning you don't even have to play properly to proc it. And this set can proc on dots right ? (correct me if I am wrong) which means it can essentially be a permanent effect from multiple sources ?
Also if people say counterplay is to slot rapid regen, undo vamp and slot pet, you may as well re-roll into another healing spec.
You don't need all of that to deal with 853 damage per second. Take rapid regeneration if you want on top of healing ward. Or use matriach if u like the playstyle.
Nice conversations going on . To further explain, at the time when i got the recap that i posted in the beginning of this thread i had 0 hot abilities and no resto ulti i always use overload for mines dark deal lighting form... also didn’t have surge i had degeneration (because i was used to empower my curses/frags/meteors) and lastly i was off the game for a long time and came back since 2-3 months so i didnt know about oblivion dmg (those reasons are why i couldnt handle the set from 1 guy). I know the sound that shieldbreaker does but at the time didnt know i was getting hit by something similar called oblivion dmg. Today i played some cyro and yes regeneration is a good ability to counter it but it takes me back to my first argument that i dont wanna use regeneration ability just to counter 1 set . I faced a stam sorc he s a good player today who was using sload i still didnt have any hot/resto ulti slotted did what i had to do: i looked at the other direction and ran away and on top of sload he even had magicka drain poison a true magicka sorcerer hater it seems.
Nice conversations going on . To further explain, at the time when i got the recap that i posted in the beginning of this thread i had 0 hot abilities and no resto ulti i always use overload for mines dark deal lighting form... also didn’t have surge i had degeneration (because i was used to empower my curses/frags/meteors) and lastly i was off the game for a long time and came back since 2-3 months so i didnt know about oblivion dmg (those reasons are why i couldnt handle the set from 1 guy). I know the sound that shieldbreaker does but at the time didnt know i was getting hit by something similar called oblivion dmg. Today i played some cyro and yes regeneration is a good ability to counter it but it takes me back to my first argument that i dont wanna use regeneration ability just to counter 1 set . I faced a stam sorc he s a good player today who was using sload i still didnt have any hot/resto ulti slotted did what i had to do: i looked at the other direction and ran away and on top of sload he even had magicka drain poison a true magicka sorcerer hater it seems.
You don't want to have to slot something to counter one set. That one set only counters Shields and mostly mag sorcs because the other heavy shield using classes have healing baked in.
So the shield breaker user is only countering mag sorcs and running a 5 piece useless against everyone else. Yet you still have an option you can run to counter it.
Seems balanced to me. I know a sorc used dark deal before to heal through the first time I ran it. We talked after the fight he won.
I usually only bring magicka drain poisons out for annoying tanky stamblades who cloak and come back non-stop.
HeathenDeacon wrote: »Two questions about SLoads/ Oblivion dmg:
1. DOes oblivion dmg still get full value through mistform?
2. Can sload's/Oblivion proc Pirate Skele through shields?
This still work agains't nightblade i hope ?
Peoples do not understand that there is nearly no counter to shield-breaker or Sload, cause we use Healing ward .... Power surge isn't that "OP " ( yeah, cause some think you can outheal the shieldbreaker /sload damages simply by using this skill ) and the matriarch is meh ( require 2 bar slot, cost a lot, can die, and don't heal that much). The only way to survive is to kill the opponent before he kills you, cause if you cast your shields or heal you die ... and if you don't cast them you die.
Maybe if it prevent NB from using cloak, peoples will finally understand ?
HeathenDeacon wrote: »Two questions about SLoads/ Oblivion dmg:
1. DOes oblivion dmg still get full value through mistform?
2. Can sload's/Oblivion proc Pirate Skele through shields?
Was fighting the guy he is stam dk got me to low health phase kept spamming 2h execute on me . I dont use any hot ability i kept my 3 shields up used tripot for health but died . I sensed there was something wrong coz i dont die to an execution spam . Usually my 3 shields+ tripot and a streak can reset the fight and save me from the execute. But it didn’t so i figured there was something wrong i so i checked the recap.
Was fighting the guy he is stam dk got me to low health phase kept spamming 2h execute on me . I dont use any hot ability i kept my 3 shields up used tripot for health but died . I sensed there was something wrong coz i dont die to an execution spam . Usually my 3 shields+ tripot and a streak can reset the fight and save me from the execute. But it didn’t so i figured there was something wrong i so i checked the recap.
Bahahahahahaaaaa!!!
“I usually can never lose bc my shields are ridiculously OP....
Me losing on a Sorc isn’t fair!”
*stomps feet rapidly*