Why are DD unbalanced?

lukastef · May 2018

Why are DD so unbalanced, I mean it doesnt sound fair to me that sorcs can pull up to 20k more than nightblades if not more, why dont they balance them nerf sorcs or buff nightblades or stamina users in general

Shezzarrine · May 2018

Is this a troll post? Stambaldes AND magblades pull the highest dps of their respective attributes.

Edit to include: You seem to be saying Stam NBs pull less than mag sorcs, which is untrue. Stamblades pulls the highest dps period out of everything.

Drdeath20 · May 2018

Nightblades have the best dps parses.

Facefister · May 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Nightblades have the best dps parses.

Because Nightblades are very independent buff and debuff wise.

Shezzarrine · May 2018

Facefister wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Nightblades have the best dps parses.

Because Nightblades are very independent buff and debuff wise.

Even with the same buffs and debuffs they pull the best. Just look at raid parses, they scale the best in raids also.

Sergykid · May 2018

melee* stamblades have the highest dps.

lukastef · May 2018

My main is healer and I am 300cp so I havent got much experience in end game content but I read a lot how mag sorcs have the best dps by far and people who play stamblades get shunned away from vet trials cuz they are not as good as sorcs in damage output so I wad wondering if this is true because Im planning to focus on alt stamblade and eventually I wanna be able to play end game meta pve

Sixty5 · May 2018

You can honestly pick anything and be endgame viable, despite the all the ***.

That being said, Nightblade, especially the Magicka version is the S tier option for DPS. They have insane scaling built into their kits alongside a kit overloaded with buffs and debuffs.

However, Nightblade isn't the easiest class in the game to play to its full potential, a Mag Sorc will get you 90% of the DPS of a Magblade with 50% of the effort.

In the end you should focus on playing what you enjoy rather than what is 'the best' since unless you are pushing scores for leaderboards it really does not matter.

Gilvoth · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

Why are DD so unbalanced, I mean it doesnt sound fair to me that sorcs can pull up to 20k more than nightblades if not more, why dont they balance them nerf sorcs or buff nightblades or stamina users in general

your right, all we need is just some small buffs for nightblade damage and it would help.

ArvenAldmeri · May 2018

Is this a joke? Mag sorc is the lowest DPS overall next patch according to tests xD NB is the highest both mag and stam.

SammyFable · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

My main is healer and I am 300cp so I havent got much experience in end game content but I read a lot how mag sorcs have the best dps by far and people who play stamblades get shunned away from vet trials cuz they are not as good as sorcs in damage output so I wad wondering if this is true because Im planning to focus on alt stamblade and eventually I wanna be able to play end game meta pve

Your information is most likely more than 1 year old. Homestead, which was new around one year ago, was the prime for Mag Sorcs. Ever since Morrowind, Sorcs have taken huge hits.

Gilvoth · May 2018

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

Is this a joke? Mag sorc is the lowest DPS overall next patch according to tests xD NB is the highest both mag and stam.

its not a joke, we just don't agree with you, nor do we agree with you guys making similar threads asking for sorc buffs.
just a difference in math and beliefs and opinions.
we are allowed to see things differently then you.
i agree with this thread and i noted it.

Gilvoth · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

My main is healer and I am 300cp so I havent got much experience in end game content but I read a lot how mag sorcs have the best dps by far and people who play stamblades get shunned away from vet trials cuz they are not as good as sorcs in damage output so I wad wondering if this is true because Im planning to focus on alt stamblade and eventually I wanna be able to play end game meta pve

ingame and seeing honest and actual numbers is the best and most honest place to find the truth.

right now here on the forums there is a group of sorcerers and dagonights that have made a campaign to nerf any and all nightblade class because of revenge that they were nerfed a few years back because they were over powered.
now they see we nightblades have not been nerfed and that are hatefull about it.
they make threads designed specificly to degrade invisibility, damage output, and survivability and smear us nightblades making us look bad out of revenge.

the best we can do is simply give our honest opinion and hope that the community, the moderators and the developers are able to see what is happening here on the forums and allow a chance for them to see the lies being present here on the forums.
and also continue to ask for help in increasing the damage output and survivability of us nightblades in both pvp and pve.

its a fight worth fighting.
good luck.

ArvenAldmeri · May 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

Is this a joke? Mag sorc is the lowest DPS overall next patch according to tests xD NB is the highest both mag and stam.

its not a joke, we just don't agree with you, nor do we agree with you guys making similar threads asking for sorc buffs.
just a difference in math and beliefs and opinions.
we are allowed to see things differently then you.
i agree with this thread and i noted it.

This is not agree/disagree. This is facts. That you suck doesnt mean most ppl suck. Why you think everyone is running magNB for best vAS scores? Oh yes, because they are horrible dps, lol sure xD

LegacyDM · May 2018

Sixty5 wrote: »

You can honestly pick anything and be endgame viable, despite the all the ***.

That being said, Nightblade, especially the Magicka version is the S tier option for DPS. They have insane scaling built into their kits alongside a kit overloaded with buffs and debuffs.

However, Nightblade isn't the easiest class in the game to play to its full potential, a Mag Sorc will get you 90% of the DPS of a Magblade with 50% of the effort.

In the end you should focus on playing what you enjoy rather than what is 'the best' since unless you are pushing scores for leaderboards it really does not matter.

^^^ this. And in pvp the skill cap for mageblade is even higher. We have to depend on extreme micromanagement to time burst with clunky skills like assassins will whereas a sorc gets free damage from a cheese double hit skill like curse and the best execute in the game with little effort. Just shield stack like a boss, bolt when things get rough, and hit like a truck with constant pressure on the offensive with little effort. Zos really wanted an easy mode class for beginners. This is it.

Op got it wrong. He should really be wondering why sorcs have it easy for such strong reward.

DanteYoda · May 2018

Warden should have the best parses... Because its warden..

Drdeath20 · May 2018

LegacyDM wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

You can honestly pick anything and be endgame viable, despite the all the ***.

That being said, Nightblade, especially the Magicka version is the S tier option for DPS. They have insane scaling built into their kits alongside a kit overloaded with buffs and debuffs.

However, Nightblade isn't the easiest class in the game to play to its full potential, a Mag Sorc will get you 90% of the DPS of a Magblade with 50% of the effort.

In the end you should focus on playing what you enjoy rather than what is 'the best' since unless you are pushing scores for leaderboards it really does not matter.

^^^ this. And in pvp the skill cap for mageblade is even higher. We have to depend on extreme micromanagement to time burst with clunky skills like assassins will whereas a sorc gets free damage from a cheese double hit skill like curse and the best execute in the game with little effort. Just shield stack like a boss, bolt when things get rough, and hit like a truck with constant pressure on the offensive with little effort. Zos really wanted an easy mode class for beginners. This is it.

Op got it wrong. He should really be wondering why sorcs have it easy for such strong reward.

Are you sure your not talking about sorcs during the IC patch?

Cloak> shields and streak

Drdeath20 · May 2018

Any class can get to 30k dps and thats all you need to complete all content. With that being said nightblades easily get above 50k dps parses. Since all the content in this game is a dps race you will see more nightblades than any other class in competitive groups. They are bis when it comes to dealing damage

Dymence · May 2018

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

Is this a joke? Mag sorc is the lowest DPS overall next patch according to tests xD NB is the highest both mag and stam.

Please tell me how magicka wardens and templars are going to do higher DPS than a magsorc next patch.

Drdeath20 · May 2018

"If your not 1st, your last" sorcs

lukastef · May 2018

What 2 sets do you guys recommend I should farm for stamina nightblade, Im seeing suggestions war machine, acuity, vicious ophidian and two fanged snake and recently advancing yokeda sets what 2 set should I focus on?

Pastas · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

My main is healer and I am 300cp so I havent got much experience in end game content but I read a lot how mag sorcs have the best dps by far and people who play stamblades get shunned away from vet trials cuz they are not as good as sorcs in damage output so I wad wondering if this is true because Im planning to focus on alt stamblade and eventually I wanna be able to play end game meta pve

You should be reading outdated information, or just trolling

ArvenAldmeri · May 2018

Dymence wrote: »

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

Is this a joke? Mag sorc is the lowest DPS overall next patch according to tests xD NB is the highest both mag and stam.

Please tell me how magicka wardens and templars are going to do higher DPS than a magsorc next patch.

Watched any streams lately? Seems not.

Narvuntien · May 2018

Crit crit crit crit crit damage.

PVE is so strongly Crit based that having all these crit damage based passives make NB stupidly strong.

On top of that they have really good sustain, comparatively. Sorcs and Templars really really struggle with sustain for example. Magdk got the buff they needed this patch so they are closing the gap on NB.

NinjaApacHe · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

Why are DD so unbalanced, I mean it doesnt sound fair to me that sorcs can pull up to 20k more than nightblades if not more, why dont they balance them nerf sorcs or buff nightblades or stamina users in general

Or you are a troll or you do not know how to play.

Aebaradath · May 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

lukastef wrote: »

My main is healer and I am 300cp so I havent got much experience in end game content but I read a lot how mag sorcs have the best dps by far and people who play stamblades get shunned away from vet trials cuz they are not as good as sorcs in damage output so I wad wondering if this is true because Im planning to focus on alt stamblade and eventually I wanna be able to play end game meta pve

ingame and seeing honest and actual numbers is the best and most honest place to find the truth.

right now here on the forums there is a group of sorcerers and dagonights that have made a campaign to nerf any and all nightblade class because of revenge that they were nerfed a few years back because they were over powered.
now they see we nightblades have not been nerfed and that are hatefull about it.
they make threads designed specificly to degrade invisibility, damage output, and survivability and smear us nightblades making us look bad out of revenge.

the best we can do is simply give our honest opinion and hope that the community, the moderators and the developers are able to see what is happening here on the forums and allow a chance for them to see the lies being present here on the forums.
and also continue to ask for help in increasing the damage output and survivability of us nightblades in both pvp and pve.

its a fight worth fighting.
good luck.

What? You Nightblades are performing well enough already. They should just buff the other classes instead.

Hell, I was in PvP last night and someone in chat was talking how he got a daily to kill 20 Nightblades and everyone pretty much joked how that's basically the "kill 20 enemy players" version since nearly everyone is a Nightblade.

Edit: So much for class variety.

lukastef · May 2018

I am rly not trolling you know not everyone is experienced in this game, I just got to 300cp recently I know nothing about this game I was just saying what I was being told in game, anyways can pls sombdy recomend bis sets for stamina nightblades that I should farm

Kikke · May 2018

People saying that mBlades is harder than magSorcs? have you been under a rock lately? your class has been made super easy for anyone to play.

MaleAmazon · May 2018

You can honestly pick anything and be endgame viable, despite the all the ***.

QFT. You can delete 50% of forum posts and replace them with this post.

Aebaradath · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

I am rly not trolling you know not everyone is experienced in this game, I just got to 300cp recently I know nothing about this game I was just saying what I was being told in game, anyways can pls sombdy recomend bis sets for stamina nightblades that I should farm

War Machine is a good set.

Kikke · May 2018

lukastef wrote: »

I am rly not trolling you know not everyone is experienced in this game, I just got to 300cp recently I know nothing about this game I was just saying what I was being told in game, anyways can pls sombdy recomend bis sets for stamina nightblades that I should farm

Stamblades. After patch gets live most stamblades will go into Reliquen (new trial set) on body. And Advanced Yokeda jewerly + weps (vma bow backbar)