Should the Mechanical Acuity Nerf be reverted?
Tyrobag
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Mechanical acuity got Annihilated in the final pts patch, and is now utterly useless for many builds. This nerf was totally unwarranted, unasked for and unnecessary. Mechanical acuity ran evenly with Hundings Rage and Julianos. Now everyone will be forced to go back to those sets instead of having a choice. MA was the first (and only) armor set that had ever been successfully used for either stat, and now that is gone as well.
Should the Mechanical Acuity nerf be fixed?
Should the Mechanical Acuity nerf be fixed?
Should the Mechanical Acuity Nerf be reverted? 260 votes
Yes, Fix Mechanical Acuity
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103 votes
No
60%
157 votes
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Tyrobag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityIt was bis for both stamina and magika builds tho
No, it was usable for either. Its usefulness depended on your build and group composition. In some situations it beat Hundings/Julianos, in some situations they beat it.
Now Hundings/Julianos (lets be honest, they're the same set) will once again be 100% BisEdited by Tyrobag on May 16, 2018 11:21PM5 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoThere was a meta before MA. There will be one after.
If you are properly weaving it shouldn't be an issue. So I vote NO.2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS has a pronounced tendency to nerf anything thats BIS or "overused" in their estimation. Of course no one asked for it to be nerfed, but it has reaped the same fate as Tava's Blessing and Twice Born Star before it.0 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Noits not a nerf its better control or how to put it for "others"...now its a set accessible to everyone including those wo cant properly play and do tops...so far this was a set exclusively for those who know what they are doing...which its good to some kind of degree...now u cant have it proc on random dots anymore which is awesome...so stop pointing ur fingers blaming and calling everything a nerf...Edited by xenowarrior92eb17_ESO on May 17, 2018 6:24AM1 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Noxenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »its not a nerf its better control or how to put it for simple minds...now its a set accessible to everyone including those wo cant properly play and do tops...so far this was a set exclusively for those who know what they are doing...which its good to some kind of degree...now u cant have it proc on random dots anymore which is awesome...so stop pointing ur fingers blaming and calling everything a nerf...
Very good point too! Now it won't proc from the ground based DoTs left behind that someone strolled into (rendering it useless at times).1 -
VilniusNastavnik✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityStill going to be BiS for stamblades with Warmachine. Can now better proc the Major Slayer buff to be timed with the 100% crit buff for incap strike.
Sorcs will prob go back to 5 necro 5 juli or no change at all. Honestly, I'm going to say revert because I already crafted a set with nirn weapons.. but I will wait and see what happens later.Active Toons:
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityYes because it added build diversity. Now magicka will just go back to Julianos.5 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityVilniusNastavnik wrote: »Still going to be BiS for stamblades with Warmachine. Can now better proc the Major Slayer buff to be timed with the 100% crit buff for incap strike.
Sorcs will prob go back to 5 necro 5 juli or no change at all. Honestly, I'm going to say revert because I already crafted a set with nirn weapons.. but I will wait and see what happens later.
It's actually harder to control now. You knew it would proc as soon as you dropped your DoT before. Now it can proc at any point from direct damage.
See here for explanation: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8jdzdd/news_eso_pts_404_patch_notes_readable/dyz2rhg/Edited by MLGProPlayer on May 17, 2018 1:33AM2 -
Dymence✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoMLGProPlayer wrote: »VilniusNastavnik wrote: »Still going to be BiS for stamblades with Warmachine. Can now better proc the Major Slayer buff to be timed with the 100% crit buff for incap strike.
Sorcs will prob go back to 5 necro 5 juli or no change at all. Honestly, I'm going to say revert because I already crafted a set with nirn weapons.. but I will wait and see what happens later.
It's actually harder to control now. You knew it would proc as soon as you dropped your DoT before. Now it can proc at any point from direct damage.
See here for explanation: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8jdzdd/news_eso_pts_404_patch_notes_readable/dyz2rhg/
There is an error in the guy's calculations, as damage enchants currently do not proc Acuity on the latest PTS version. Though I hope this is a bug and will be fixed.Edited by Dymence on May 17, 2018 2:51AM0 -
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✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityMLGProPlayer wrote: »Yes because it added build diversity. Now magicka will just go back to Julianos.
Zos will nerf Juli as well when most of mag dps run it
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityMLGProPlayer wrote: »Yes because it added build diversity. Now magicka will just go back to Julianos.
Zos will nerf Juli as well when most of mag dps run it
I doubt that. It's been untouched for 2.5 years now, and it's been BiS for much of that time.Edited by MLGProPlayer on May 17, 2018 3:36AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NoMLGProPlayer wrote: »VilniusNastavnik wrote: »Still going to be BiS for stamblades with Warmachine. Can now better proc the Major Slayer buff to be timed with the 100% crit buff for incap strike.
Sorcs will prob go back to 5 necro 5 juli or no change at all. Honestly, I'm going to say revert because I already crafted a set with nirn weapons.. but I will wait and see what happens later.
It's actually harder to control now. You knew it would proc as soon as you dropped your DoT before. Now it can proc at any point from direct damage.
See here for explanation: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/8jdzdd/news_eso_pts_404_patch_notes_readable/dyz2rhg/
There is an error in the guy's calculations, as damage enchants currently do not proc Acuity on the latest PTS version. Though I hope this is a bug and will be fixed.
Also the guy doesnt include chances for Force Pulse users or users of Elemental Weapon which always grants status effect and because of that additional direct dmg tick.0 -
frankwchenzo✭✭NoWhen EVERYONE in your HoF/AS/MoL HM group is wearing this, you know this set is def gonna be nerfed, right?9 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityThe purpose of this nerf was to make the lackluster new trials sets in Bummerset more attractive. In a twitch stream, one of the devs admitted that an open issue was that the new sets weren't really that desirable.
So what is easier that creativity and making new stuff?? Nerfing stuff people love and making it less useful and confusing!
If you have to nerf old content to sell new content, you are doing it wrong.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on May 20, 2018 2:25AM4 -
Mudcrabber✭✭✭✭NoI was planning to switch to it, before the nerf, but I'm kinda glad I won't feel compelled to. The fullscreen blue proc effect is kinda annoying. And it was kinda overpowered, being BiS for both magicka and stamina.
But I'd be pissed if I had already crafted and golded it, as many have. Though it's still good enough that many will continue using it, just switching things up a bit to do more direct hits.Edited by Mudcrabber on May 20, 2018 3:41AM0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not voting. Since I’m on onsole I really can’t know the impact yet, though it’s sad to see my Acuity gear probably become useless.
If Acuity becomes useless I would definitely like to have this nerf reverted. It was nice having a choice of Juli or Acuity instead of only Juli.Edited by Vaoh on May 20, 2018 4:30AM0 -
LZH✭✭✭✭NoMechanical Acuity didn't get "annihilated".
As a single-bar set in PvE it's still better than Julianos by a reasonable amount. It's also better than Burning Spellweave as a single-bar set.
So far this week on Nightblade it's been Mother's Sorrow > Acuity > Burning Spellweave > Julianos.
Before this week it was Acuity >> Mother's Sorrow > Burning Spellweave > Julianos.
It sucks that it got nerfed and some of the gold gear you have now might not be BiS in literally every situation, but the set isn't dead, and it's certainly still usable in some places, not to mention that it's craftable.Edited by LZH on May 20, 2018 5:16AM1 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoAll the DPS in the best guilds wear MA and just about every target dummy parse I've seen wears this set. Please, tell me how diverse end-game gear was again and how taxing it was to maintain such that it really wasn't that good despite so many of the game's better payers wore it?
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoThough it was good, and I personally use it, the nerf should stay. Everyone and their grandma was using it for dps. Stam and magicka. Range or melee. Everyone. So, it needed to be changed/nerfed."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityJoy_Division wrote: »All the DPS in the best guilds wear MA and just about every target dummy parse I've seen wears this set. Please, tell me how diverse end-game gear was again and how taxing it was to maintain such that it really wasn't that good despite so many of the game's better players wore it?
That is exactly why. Because it required a good rotation to have all your dots up and in the correct phase for everything to crit well, just to outperform another set by 1k. It was good, but not massively OP, and with the bonus of being viable for all builds and not needing a pointless (at this point, since transmute exists) roadblock to get, and rewarded crafters for having a BIS set.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical AcuityIt was bis for both stamina and magika builds tho
So? Why does that matter? You could also craft it.
What does sth being bis for both combat types have to do with anything? (Real answers please)
If anyone can use it, no one has a disadvantage.
Also, there were people using it before the rest of ya jumped on the bandwagon and f'd it up.7 -
GaunterODim✭✭✭✭NoIll enjoy not having to wear it as I personally dont like it and I find it good that the nerf didnt completely ruin the set. Its still great for force pulse rotations like on a magsorc from what Ive heard.0 -
Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭
✭Will still work fine on my magplar.. in fact I would go as far as to say it could be better as I can make it proc when I want as opposed to when I'm defending and a dot procs0 -
Jerkling✭✭✭✭Yes, Fix Mechanical Acuity
is AoE damage not concidered "direct damage"?ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Item Sets- Mechanical Acuity: This item set now only procs on direct damage instead of all damage.
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GaunterODim✭✭✭✭NoIt can be direct damage, for example the nightblade aoe spammable sap essence or steel tornado are considered direct damage.0
