ZOS , you have set the economy back 6 months

  • Kingslayer513
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    I dont understand what the problem is?If your talking about motifs flooding the market, when the event ends people will start buying those up to complete sets. The market will be back to normal before summerset drops at the latest.

    Eh... not so sure about that. Prior to the start of the anniversary event prices for Gold Coast and Hew's Bane Motifs were still much lower than they had been prior to the TG/DB anniversary event, and that was significantly less disruptive to the economy. By the time this event ends we'll have a little over a month before Summerset drops for PC and about a month an a half before it drops for consoles, and I rather doubt the prices will be even remotely back to where they were before the event by then.

    I bet they adjust the drop rates. Im keeping track of this and day 1-5 i had 20-30% drop rate. Day 6 was about 18%. Day 7 was 15% and so far today was about 15%. So far its looking like the drop rate is decreasing every few days.

    I've noticed this as well. Guess I need to step up on doing more dailies.
  • ramasurinenpreub18_ESO
    This is what happens when a certain portion of the game's population (the hoarding/speculating/profiteering cabal) takes things a little too seriously. This motif flood based reset was inevitable after the opportunistic behaviour exhibited following the release of the outfit system. Prices were rocketing out of reach of all but the most dedicated players, and Zos wants everyone to at least feel like they have a chance to get the things they want.

    With this event they're simply reminding this group that this is not a true 'free market', for better or worse. Not saying I agree or disagree with the move but it's interesting to watch.

    If motifs are currency, and they kind of are these days, then welcome to fiat land, at least for a while.
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  • DanteYoda
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    Wow this is why mmo's suck economy wise... When did gaming turn into wall street online...
  • Avran_Sylt
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    @DanteYoda

    Because there are many types of Gankers, even Profit Gankers.

    Although I wouldn't even call this ganking, as it implies that you've done all the work. More like leeching.
    Edited by Avran_Sylt on April 12, 2018 5:12AM
  • FloppyTouch
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    This gives me more time to buy cheap motifs then flip them for twice their worth. Right now worm cult on xb seems to be going for 50-75k after this event ends and new players join that same motif that they have no way to get will be double to triple the price. I'm saving them All!
  • FlamingBeard
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    I started selling motifs as soon as the event started, and I've made nearly 1 million gold from doing so.

    If you price things competitively, there's no way not to profit.

    Also, we don't even have the Dragon Bones motifs available to farm yet; Fang Lair motifs and Dragon Priest motifs are where the real gold is going to come from not too long from now (at least, for those who can complete the dungeons on hard mode).
    Edited by FlamingBeard on April 12, 2018 5:30AM
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    jazsper77 wrote: »
    With the extension of the event right after a previous event that ZOS has turned over 50% of the marketplace into hollowjack motifs.

    You have 50% percent of your selling market at a 50-70% discount. That is going to take major time to bleed thru the selling system.

    I do not want to turn this into a bashing thread but @ZOS your server issues will cost me millions of dollars over a lousy motif.
    Since the players who complained they couldn’t farm and you have given them a MASSIVE we are sorry gift .Then I feel I should be compensated the millions in gold this will cost me.
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  • AzraelKrieg
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    Is this really a thread?
    Didn't realise that trading in this game was such serious business.
    If you care this much about the economy in a game you really should look at your priorities.
    Of course it's ZOS's fault though because "reasons"
    Take a good look at yourself and maybe step away from the game if it annoys you so much.
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  • ForsakenSin
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    jazsper77 wrote: »
    Irl I made 13.7 million dollars last year before NOBT ( you can google that it’s a business thing) I’m not poor.
    So yes managing $$$$ is personal to me.

    " goes on google types in NOBT ..search... New Orleans Ballet Theatre" ????


    ..just fyi ..

    usually its rich people who never say how much money they have or earn because they don't need to show off to anybody they don't need to prove it to anybody they have no reason to and they don't need to flaunt it.

    and its usually the poorer people who love to lie about how much money they make flashing bling things so others would be jealous of their life , put other people down , seek appraisal ,admiration from people and to stroke their ego ect ect.

    Honestly if you did make that , good for you!!! not sure why you would need to disclose that but ok.


    Edited by ForsakenSin on April 12, 2018 5:59AM
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  • Turelus
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    Smart people would be buying the low now to sell high again in the later part of the year. :wink:

    I mean if OP makes and has so many millions then they'll be able to buy so many more items now they're cheaper.
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  • SydneyGrey
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    If you buy motifs in order to resell them for higher, and the price drops on them ... well .. too bad. That was your risk to take.
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    Maybe. But I suspect they are dynamically adjusting the drop rate. (adjusts tin foil)
  • ForsakenSin
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    lets be realistic here not trolling jokes ect but

    "350,000,000 gold on my 46 toons combined" just how is that possible?

    how many accounts do you have and how many platforms ?

    how do you have so much time to play with all of them during a day ?



    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
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    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • Whiphid
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    More motifs for more people is good. Gives people the opportunity to enjoy outfitting without forking over all their gold to you.
    Nobody wants to buy your 60k motifs, so just deal with it.

    Good thing the event is extended by a week, lets wreck these insane motif prices some more.
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  • Turelus
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    lets be realistic here not trolling jokes ect but

    "350,000,000 gold on my 46 toons combined" just how is that possible?

    how many accounts do you have and how many platforms ?

    how do you have so much time to play with all of them during a day ?
    That's minimum four accounts, more realistically five or six.

    As for the second question I'd imagine if OP made millions in RL like they say they could hire some people to just play the game for them.

    Wonder why you would want to have a work force making gold for you in an MMO though... :confused:
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    jazsper77 wrote: »
    With the extension of the event right after a previous event that ZOS has turned over 50% of the marketplace into hollowjack motifs.

    You have 50% percent of your selling market at a 50-70% discount. That is going to take major time to bleed thru the selling system.

    I do not want to turn this into a bashing thread but @ZOS your server issues will cost me millions of dollars over a lousy motif.
    Since the players who complained they couldn’t farm and you have given them a MASSIVE we are sorry gift .Then I feel I should be compensated the millions in gold this will cost me.
    Ty

    What nonsense. Sure the motor market takes a hit, but the sales of then are through the roof, the same people making gold before have had chance to make huge money during this event. It all balances out, people have gained rather than lost.

    And next doc the new motifs will be top dollar again. It all works out.

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  • Whiphid
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Wonder why you would want to have a work force making gold for you in an MMO though... :confused:

    Gotta have someone to spam your website URL with S P A C E S . C O M in zone all day, that can be expensive!

    That said, if you really have 350M what does it matter motifs have dropped in price. What does one do with such gold anyway, other than selling it.
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  • TheCyberDruid
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    Funnily enough there are things in the game that sell extremely well right now and for much higher prices. The economy is fine, you just have to observe and adapt ;)
  • geonsocal
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    that really would be too funny if 'ol jazsper really was up to some nefarious ***, and they just gave themselves up monologuing...

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  • Wreuntzylla
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    lets be realistic here not trolling jokes ect but

    "350,000,000 gold on my 46 toons combined" just how is that possible?

    how many accounts do you have and how many platforms ?

    how do you have so much time to play with all of them during a day ?



    What, he can only buy every housing property in the game 10 times over. He's poor!
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    but poor guys can always buy gold from him...
    looks like he isnt evil for a game
  • zaria
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    fred4 wrote: »
    I have no idea what the OP is even talking about. The new Worm Cult motif is going UP in value. I sold a chest motif page for 200K within hours and could have asked for more. I suspect some people will make a killing by retaining Worm Cult motifs until after the event.

    Other stuff is going down in price, but I'm farming lots of things in the 5K to 20K range. Never made gold this easily and my crafter is completing motifs that I always found too expensive to bother with. What's not to like?
    Made 1.5 million so far during the event, glad i waited with the buying spree
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  • blacksghost
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    It’s not real gold.
    You didn’t really earn it, you played for this non real gold
    The npc bank won’t pay you interest no matter how much non real gold you have


    It’s great getting the odd motif for free.
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  • MaxTM
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Think I’ve never read something as stupid as this.

    This seems even more stupid than the guy who wanted to nerf the Summerset Teaser Quest Boss :cold_sweat:
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    Edited by Asardes on April 12, 2018 8:26AM
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  • Sigma957
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    Pretty much now is the best time to buy and then sell later when every thing dies down and the rarer motif's becomes even rarer. The worm cult wont be around to probably next year or in the crown store later this year maybe.
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    I feel like saying: 'Billions and Billions!'

    Just hold your motifs and sell them some time after this XP/loot event. Logical, right?
  • Linaleah
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    a very large chunk of this game's population plays it DESPITE guild trader system and its junkiness. so I'm having very VERY hard time feeling sorry for you, OP, given how many people, thanks to this event will be able to have much wider style selection to create outfits with, among other things. booohoo, you wont be making as much gold as you are used to, meanwhile community is having a grand time of actualy having shinies accessible to them for once.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • Numerikuu
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    Any good trader would find another way to make their gold~ Just means more work to look for where the market is currently lacking :)
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