ZOS , you have set the economy back 6 months

ClockworkCityBugs

Bobby Axelrod? its you?

Guarlet

ForsakenSin wrote: »

jazsper77 wrote: »

Irl I made 13.7 million dollars last year before NOBT ( you can google that it’s a business thing) I’m not poor.
So yes managing $$$$ is personal to me.

" goes on google types in NOBT ..search... New Orleans Ballet Theatre" ????

First result I got was "Number of Pigs Born in Total." Who knows, maybe that's what the OP was talking about after all. It doesn't seem totally irrelevant to the OP...

Troneon

Chaos2088

Bhaal5

Its eso, people will find away to rip others off.... Doubt it set it back any at all.

Brrrofski

I've made over 3.5 mil so far this event. So as you can imagine, I'm quite enjoying it - especially considering I've been stuck at 500k for the past two years

Now to keep all my worm cult motifs and make a killing in a fortnight's time.

Androconium

jazsper77 wrote: »

With the extension of the event right after a previous event that ZOS has turned over 50% of the marketplace into hollowjack motifs.

You have 50% percent of your selling market at a 50-70% discount. That is going to take major time to bleed thru the selling system.

I do not want to turn this into a bashing thread but @ZOS your server issues will cost me millions of dollars over a lousy motif.
Since the players who complained they couldn’t farm and you have given them a MASSIVE we are sorry gift .Then I feel I should be compensated the millions in gold this will cost me.
Ty

Really?
are you converting this into real life cash?
Do you declare that as real life income?

Does your real-life tax office know about you?

gresiac

I made 100 million last year IRL, that i write that here did that really happen ?

Asardes

Money has rapidly diminishing marginal value both IRL and in game. The real value is in fact your time. I'd rather spend that time doing more interesting things that doing the same dailies over and over again until I want to break the keyboard, hitting the refresh button on TTC addon & website every 2 minutes, and endlessly browsing guild traders for the best bargains, all of those while watching the clock trying to continue. Of course I do those things from time to time, when I do need something, but I don't play for it, and I don't want to ruin my experience doing it endlessly for ultimately pointless rewards like adding another digit to my make-believe bank account.

For example last evening I was so fed up with dailies for motifs I just did my writs and went right into Battlegrounds with a character I had seldomly played in Cyrodiil PvP and never in Battlegrounds. I got pummeled hard the first few matches, because my builds don't allow much space for error (I only play medium or light armor, never heavy), but I really didn't care much about it, since my expectations were lowered accordingly. Also getting killed constantly pushes you to learn to play better, time your combos better, heal, roll dodge and manage resources. In the end the whole experience felt really relaxing, something I didn't need to push myself into continuing, like running Bloodforge for the 56th time for motifs to sell, or running around Cropsford to collect sacks of grain for the next reward box. I barely noticed when time went by, and when I finished I had like 240K AP and the clock was a quarter past 2 AM.

I have 40M gold in game and only trade as a side show to get rid of surplus items that are otherwise clogging my inventory. I never bothered to flip items, I am pretty much self sufficient when it comes to expensive materials like legendary tempers so I don't spend much either; the only things I buy regularly are refined materials for keeping writs going so I can get those. Crafting writs are indeed a chore, but I do them pretty much mindlessly, while chit-chatting on Discord with guild mates while warming up for the game so I barely notice when they're done. I'm not really into housing, since I'd rather "rent" guild halls with every set crafting table, transmute station and practice dummies than replicate all of those at my own house, where they'll seldomly get used anyway so my cash supply keeps increasing steadily without putting much effort into it. I really don't understand what people want to do with the hundreds of millions they claim to own, other than inflate their e-peen.

DirkRavenclaw

Nice Try. I sold last Week goods for 650k, Mats sell, be it Ingots, Tempers or Alchemy, Kuta sells, a lot sells, and yes, i even sell some Motife Pages. And, guess what, we even get another week Í had last week my best selling week, that week looks like, it gets again in this Direction.You just need to know what the Market wants, then you make Money. Also, make sure you are in 1 or 2 Big Tradingguilds they can give you Tips and Help

Turelus

Beardimus wrote: »

jazsper77 wrote: »

Irl I made 13.7 million dollars last year before NOBT ( you can google that it’s a business thing) I’m not poor.
So yes managing $$$$ is personal to me.

New Orleans Baptist Theological?

From my own research I have deduced that OP is either a ballerina or works in medicine.

What does NOBT mean?
4 meanings of NOBT acronym or abbreviation
NOBT stands for

New Orleans Ballet Theatre
New Orleans Baptist Theological
nonoperative biopsy technique
New Orleans Board of Trade

Source

ATomiX96

Personally the event couldnt come in handier than ever for me, had to catch up with some morrowind motifs and ancient orc.


p.s. : its always fun to see traders whine and rage about the economy, go get yourself something real with those internet points, oh wait! doesnt work :^) (unless youre breaking ToS and selling gold for rl currency)

helediron

This extension of event is doing good to game economy. Flippers need to lose their game sometimes.

eso_nya

It doesnt hurt the economy. It hurts a few individuals. As its the ppl who r pissed, cause someone else gets shineys aswell im not sad.

drkfrontiers

Only people who would complain about this are the people that are charging exorbitant prices on the traders for things.

Wouldn't want to get in the way of them making millions right?
Wouldn't want other players the chance to have something nice, as they themselves already have right?

myskyrim26

@jazsper77, the sky isn't falling.

1) ESO economy is NOT based on motifs.
2) The event is extended, but we know nothing about the DROP. I guess it will be adjusted not no overflood the market with motifs. Matbe WC will drop more often so that people could get it, but the other motifs - we'll see.
3) With the new jewellery system the market will have a new stage of it's "life"
4) New motifs are coming, don't you know? We have Scalecaller concept art, the gorgeous motifs, that will be expensive. And I'm sure we'll get new motifs and furniture plans with the new Chapter.

Nermy

jazsper77 wrote: »

With out the Trader system you would see this games population plummet that’s a FACT. So yes the marketing game is The Largest part of this game.

Really? To you maybe...

THEKATWOMAN70

I am a pre play player who pays every mouth and wy is it u only can loot so much whe u r in a thief guild and darkbrother hood quest this is not right at all can u plz sort these out plz thank u.

Franieck

I like it. Motifs shouldn't be a way to make tons of gold to begin with imo.

Turelus

You know I have to say... with OP's love for in game economies and trade. Why is he not playing EVE Online? The game which literally has an economist dev position to keep an eye on things. It's like ESO trade system turned up to 11.

DieAlteHexe

Turelus wrote: »

You know I have to say... with OP's love for in game economies and trade. Why is he not playing EVE Online? The game which literally has an economist dev position to keep an eye on things. It's like ESO trade system turned up to 11.

Big fish, little pond?

Merlin13KAGL

ForsakenSin wrote: »

jazsper77 wrote: »

Irl I made 13.7 million dollars last year before NOBT ( you can google that it’s a business thing) I’m not poor.
So yes managing $$$$ is personal to me.

" goes on google types in NOBT ..search... New Orleans Ballet Theatre" ????

Huge money to be had there. Next up: Tap shoes.

OP a few peculiar things:

• Four thread pages
• Lots of claims.
• Zero screenshots
• Only three forum stars...

Yup, seems legit.
FWIW, I'm all for ZoS reimbursing you the full vendor value of motifs unlooted while writing this thread. That's what, about 100g?

Princess_Ciri

I'm just gonna shove all my motifs into my guild bank, and then in 5 months time if they are worth more I will sell them. Or trade them to people in exchange for motifs that I need.

And I say this as someone who usually makes 100k-300k a week selling motifs. Just chill and be glad we get an extra week of boxes

Zagnut123Zagnut123

Turelus wrote: »

You know I have to say... with OP's love for in game economies and trade. Why is he not playing EVE Online? The game which literally has an economist dev position to keep an eye on things. It's like ESO trade system turned up to 11.

It's easy to look like an eagle amongst pigeons.

SickDuck

My main problem with the event is that ZOS is basically diminishing the achievement of some hard to earn motifs by throwing them at you for free. Did it last year too and left me with mixed feelings.

On the other hands wtf is going on with the Worm Cult stuff? After opening about a thousand boxes I still only have 6 drops! What’s the agenda for an average Joe here? Getting them in the next 10 years?

Eldartar

jazsper77 wrote: »

With the extension of the event right after a previous event that ZOS has turned over 50% of the marketplace into hollowjack motifs.

You have 50% percent of your selling market at a 50-70% discount. That is going to take major time to bleed thru the selling system.

I do not want to turn this into a bashing thread but @ZOS your server issues will cost me millions of dollars over a lousy motif.
Since the players who complained they couldn’t farm and you have given them a MASSIVE we are sorry gift .Then I feel I should be compensated the millions in gold this will cost me.
Ty

Why should you be compensated? You are just miffed that you're not making your 'Millions of dollars' ...... I for one hope the motif market plummets over the next week or so then maybe the 'Ordinary' player (99% of the playing population) will be able to add to his/her motif collection.

Others, including yourself, I'm sure won't agree but I think why should the 'Game Economy' exist for an elite few?

Turelus

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

ForsakenSin wrote: »

jazsper77 wrote: »

Irl I made 13.7 million dollars last year before NOBT ( you can google that it’s a business thing) I’m not poor.
So yes managing $$$$ is personal to me.

" goes on google types in NOBT ..search... New Orleans Ballet Theatre" ????

Huge money to be had there. Next up: Tap shoes.

OP a few peculiar things:

• Four thread pages
• Lots of claims.
• Zero screenshots
• Only three forum stars...

Yup, seems legit.
FWIW, I'm all for ZoS reimbursing you the full vendor value of motifs unlooted while writing this thread. That's what, about 100g?

Clearly the most important thing.

pod88kk

No they haven't, if the only way you can make money in this game is by charging ridiculous amounts for motifs then you're doing something wrong

Minyassa

If this is the economy six months ago, I missed something back then. I think it has set it back a few, though, to before outfits ruined motif prices. I'm glad to see them dropping back to reasonable rates, though sadly I think they will rebound back to stupidly high prices before too long.

Madamova

jazsper77 wrote: »

Irl I made 13.7 million dollars last year before NOBT ( you can google that it’s a business thing) I’m not poor.
So yes managing $$$$ is personal to me.

hahahaha