ZOS_Holden wrote: »Hi @DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER,
Thanks for the suggestion! Giving Grand Overlords some sort of visual signifier a bit flashier than a dye is a really fun idea and we can definitely understand why players would want one. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee this idea will be used, but we always love hearing the community's suggestions and feedback and hope you'll all continue to share them in the future.

Half of the grand overlols running around pvdoored their way to the title.
No point in rewarding them for this.
Find a way to reward competence in pvp and put a nice carrot there. Do not reward time based.
DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »Please!!!
Only a dye is boring
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
LOL! vSO HM, vAA HM, vHRC HM, vMOL HM, and vHOF HM in a technical sense give you less than a dye. You just get 50 achievement points.
You can get the skin and title from the non-HM version.
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
LOL! vSO HM, vAA HM, vHRC HM, vMOL HM, and vHOF HM in a technical sense give you less than a dye. You just get 50 achievement points.
You can get the skin and title from the non-HM version.
Im not a pveer so i dont know the specifics but that makes the pvp rank 50 achieve even worse if u get skins from non hm LOL. Anyway u get goldjewelry, polymorphs and skins for trials that usually takes ALOT LESS time to complete than GRAND OVERLORD.
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
LOL! vSO HM, vAA HM, vHRC HM, vMOL HM, and vHOF HM in a technical sense give you less than a dye. You just get 50 achievement points.
You can get the skin and title from the non-HM version.
Im not a pveer so i dont know the specifics but that makes the pvp rank 50 achieve even worse if u get skins from non hm LOL. Anyway u get goldjewelry, polymorphs and skins for trials that usually takes ALOT LESS time to complete than GRAND OVERLORD.
True. The only difference would be that one can get to Grand Overlord by mindlessly repairing walls and doors and not even PvPing, whereas clearing vet trials requires skill and practice. On the other hand, you can get carried through trials, but you can't get carried to Grand Overlord. And Grand Overlord does take a lot of time.
Half of the grand overlols running around pvdoored their way to the title.
No point in rewarding them for this.
Find a way to reward competence in pvp and put a nice carrot there. Do not reward time based.
this argument crumbles when you consider the emp/former emp rewards.
it is true that's it's easier to get GO with the AP changes and events but even still there are fewer GO's running around then former emps. i really don't see a problem with giving GO's something.
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
LOL! vSO HM, vAA HM, vHRC HM, vMOL HM, and vHOF HM in a technical sense give you less than a dye. You just get 50 achievement points.
You can get the skin and title from the non-HM version.
Im not a pveer so i dont know the specifics but that makes the pvp rank 50 achieve even worse if u get skins from non hm LOL. Anyway u get goldjewelry, polymorphs and skins for trials that usually takes ALOT LESS time to complete than GRAND OVERLORD.
True. The only difference would be that one can get to Grand Overlord by mindlessly repairing walls and doors and not even PvPing, whereas clearing vet trials requires skill and practice. On the other hand, you can get carried through trials, but you can't get carried to Grand Overlord. And Grand Overlord does take a lot of time.
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
LOL! vSO HM, vAA HM, vHRC HM, vMOL HM, and vHOF HM in a technical sense give you less than a dye. You just get 50 achievement points.
You can get the skin and title from the non-HM version.
Im not a pveer so i dont know the specifics but that makes the pvp rank 50 achieve even worse if u get skins from non hm LOL. Anyway u get goldjewelry, polymorphs and skins for trials that usually takes ALOT LESS time to complete than GRAND OVERLORD.
True. The only difference would be that one can get to Grand Overlord by mindlessly repairing walls and doors and not even PvPing, whereas clearing vet trials requires skill and practice. On the other hand, you can get carried through trials, but you can't get carried to Grand Overlord. And Grand Overlord does take a lot of time.
You can most certainly be carried to grand overlord
Half of the grand overlols running around pvdoored their way to the title.
No point in rewarding them for this.
Find a way to reward competence in pvp and put a nice carrot there. Do not reward time based.
this argument crumbles when you consider the emp/former emp rewards.
it is true that's it's easier to get GO with the AP changes and events but even still there are fewer GO's running around then former emps. i really don't see a problem with giving GO's something.
Why does it crumble?
Does former emp get anything more than GO gets? Not really - which is a good thing considering emp trading.
I cant understand how the top achievement in pvp doesnt give anything else than a dye?!?!?!
Imagine any endgame pve vet hm trial achieve would only be a dye?
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
LOL! vSO HM, vAA HM, vHRC HM, vMOL HM, and vHOF HM in a technical sense give you less than a dye. You just get 50 achievement points.
You can get the skin and title from the non-HM version.
Im not a pveer so i dont know the specifics but that makes the pvp rank 50 achieve even worse if u get skins from non hm LOL. Anyway u get goldjewelry, polymorphs and skins for trials that usually takes ALOT LESS time to complete than GRAND OVERLORD.
True. The only difference would be that one can get to Grand Overlord by mindlessly repairing walls and doors and not even PvPing, whereas clearing vet trials requires skill and practice. On the other hand, you can get carried through trials, but you can't get carried to Grand Overlord. And Grand Overlord does take a lot of time.
You can most certainly be carried to grand overlord
How? Certainly not in the same manner as with a trial.
Half of the grand overlols running around pvdoored their way to the title.
No point in rewarding them for this.
Find a way to reward competence in pvp and put a nice carrot there. Do not reward time based.
this argument crumbles when you consider the emp/former emp rewards.
it is true that's it's easier to get GO with the AP changes and events but even still there are fewer GO's running around then former emps. i really don't see a problem with giving GO's something.
Why does it crumble?
Does former emp get anything more than GO gets? Not really - which is a good thing considering emp trading.