Strife was already nerfed twice in the past and no where at anytime had I seen a nerf strife thread since . Was not aware it needed anything changed further . If Gillian was being killed by strife then I'd even tell him to L2P because damn . That's funny .

technohic wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Running it on my magblade, I think I always felt like it would happen eventually. When you look at concealed weapon, it was often a question of "why bother?" when strife was there. Force Pulse is the ranged spammable for most classes so it makes sense. It still hives a nice HOT. Although; force pulse is not reflectable and that reflect part is a huge downside of strife.

Again you basically destroy the uniqueness of the skill. I use Con Weap. when I play as a Melee magblade becuase it does more damage despite the cost. if it does more damage it should cost more. Force pulse does more damage than strife and yet they will now cost the same

Hmm My swallow soul comes out slightly higher on tooltip. Status effect chances are then not there and nor is the 10% penetration, but I also get vitality and heals. I mean; I'd still chose strife over force pulse. But I'd consider pulse for how much better it weaves.

It is just a fact that Force Pulse does more damage. Tool tip values are messed up because Force Pulse counts are 3 separate attacks

I have no problem with the strife nerf IF it gets some extra healing or Funnel get its 2 targets healed back

I hope they give NB a little bit more of something in terms or like... buffing. Some of the things I thought were nice, like the Ult changes, I feel like NB is already under performing in terms of damage (I don't play a DPS NB but it still kinda bugs me) meanwhile sorc is getting mainly buffs, like lightning flood being buffed for damage and such. And that's not sorc bashing I just feel like they already do so much more damage anyway so I find it kind of odd, If anyone has a source though that says NB is getting any sort of buff damage wise and not just nerfs to it I'd like a link to it. I don't feel like I wont be able to play NB or anything but i feel like with the buffs other classes are getting in comparison NB will be definitely under performing? but I might be wrong and it does depend on play style still I suppose.

Yeah I mean the fact that most vDSA groups are 3 mNB DPS and a Tank cross healing each other with Funnel Health should give you a sense of how strong that ability is. If you think Funnel is only a strong ability because it's cheaper than Force Pulse then just lol

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Strife was already nerfed twice in the past and no where at anytime had I seen a nerf strife thread since . Was not aware it needed anything changed further . If Gillian was being killed by strife then I'd even tell him to L2P because damn . That's funny .

Lol this is the nerf mNB needs to bring the class in line with the other classes. Well ZOS balances by nerfing and if you expected anything else you have been playing the wrong game.

Right now mNBs are way overpowered in PVE compared to other classes and unless something like this happens other magika classes will always play second fiddle to them.

Kilandros wrote: »

Yeah I mean the fact that most vDSA groups are 3 mNB DPS and a Tank cross healing each other with Funnel Health should give you a sense of how strong that ability is. If you think Funnel is only a strong ability because it's cheaper than Force Pulse then just lol

I can do that on a templar with BoL and ritual. Nothing too special aside from sustain difference. Plz ignore the forum knight. He got his sustain buff already. Onto the issue at hand

rustic_potato wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

rustic_potato wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Strife was already nerfed twice in the past and no where at anytime had I seen a nerf strife thread since . Was not aware it needed anything changed further . If Gillian was being killed by strife then I'd even tell him to L2P because damn . That's funny .

Lol this is the nerf mNB needs to bring the class in line with the other classes. Well ZOS balances by nerfing and if you expected anything else you have been playing the wrong game.

Right now mNBs are way overpowered in PVE compared to other classes and unless something like this happens other magika classes will always play second fiddle to them.

None of your points make sense. You are only annoyed they parse better than you. DK gets a sustain buff and mNB (not stam) gets a nerf... Something doesn't seem right here. I want DK to get that sustain change. But strife shouldn't cost as much as force pulse because it doesn't do as much. No extra damage, no status effects, no extra chance to proc things, no interrupt (morph dependent), no on kill resources, does not grant same passives for being slotted (which are better than strife), and finally strife is hard to weave with unlike force pulse.

Lol I have been running a mNB dps since HotR as my primary PVE DD. Strife is indeed overpowered especially in top tier end game PVE. The heal aspect of strife alone outperforms all the benefits FP would give. I will probably still run it over FP in a raid. Top tier teams running vAS+2 have more than 40% of the raid's healing done my magblades.

Weaving with strife is just a L2P issue.

Trust me if that heal would worth it people who still played mNB back in Homestead would have picked over that Force Pulse, strife is nowhere near overpowered

I agree the nerf seems pretty huge. Would rather see no magblade PvE nerfs and buffs to other classes instead (I've mag dk is pretty strong with the changes for dps). Buffing one thing while nerfing another thing at the same time was never a good idea.

Strife was imbalanced in terms of cost/damage ratio. So it needed adjustment in one or the other way. Putting it as high as force pulse is the wrong way in my opinion, i wouldve lowered the others instead to match the cost of strife.

Concealed weapon costing less and dealing more damage makes sense because it's melee range and doesn't have the added benefit of healing you. Strife is a main attack on Magblade while also providing a lot of healing. Something has to be increased on Magblade and Magsorc both to make infinite sustain shield stacking more difficult.