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Everybody desperately needs DB in their bars. DB needs to be restricted and then replaced.

  • Derra
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    i just wish meteor was as nice as dawnbreaker. Can´t we reduce dmg and cost on meteor a bit? That would be nice.
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  • Enslaved
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Ill try to be OP.

    Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.

    Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.

    What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.

    Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.

    @Enslaved
    Ill try to be you.

    "I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"

    " Im a sDK and one of 2 only ultimates we have on our disposal is too op, please nerf us sDKs some more Zos, we were not nerfed enough, look u missed a spot"

    Hahhahahahha pathetic.
    Tell me. How did you feel?

    As a sDK I feel nerfed enough.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.



    You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face

    @Enslaved go and edit your post in which you though I was a magika vampire looking to nerf stamina classes.

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 8:40AM
  • Enslaved
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    Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.



    You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face

    What you call balance, from your own perspective, I call rubbish, from my own perspective.
  • FloppyTouch
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    Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.



    You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face

    I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor

    Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper

    These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus. DB does more damage to vamp huge plus

    Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO

    Edited by FloppyTouch on March 27, 2018 8:45AM
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.



    You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face

    I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor

    Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper

    These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus.

    Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO

    I am not here to nerf magika.
  • Enslaved
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    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    Further more. Your comment is the proof that forum is feeled with meta riders defending meta. I hope this represent system is just for appearances.
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 8:48AM
  • FloppyTouch
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    Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.



    You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face

    I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor

    Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper

    These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus.

    Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO

    I am not here to nerf magika.

    I don't think you read what I wrote I was comparing the 2 ult that are almost the same and very balance in no need to change them
  • Enslaved
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    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.
  • Azurya
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    There is a tldr.

    Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.

    Dawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
    1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
    2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.

    Dawnbreaker is an aggressive skill. Very strong. I suggest 2 things:

    1)Dawnbreaker is moved to DW. It belongs there. It improves DW in PvP. It should be renamed and the animation should be something like an anime bladedance/tornado.
    I would also suggest that the CC is removed or changed to a soft "push" effect like the good old templar spammable. AoE.
    The heal overtime and not as easy to perform action of the DW ultimate hinders DW. It doesnt belong in that playstyle.
    In that way the old Dawnbreaker will not be the scourge that it is today, and DW would recieve a boost.
    Enough with the passive playstyle of DW. It's all about stats (bonus piece/dmg/passive bleed) and no action. Remove bleed if it ends up overperforming.

    2)Dawn breaker becomes something else. It is not BiS anymore.
    It should be one morph physical 1 morph magic. No CC.
    Animation/artwork. No more ground smash. It should become a slice in the sky. Similar to what DW ulti looks like but more dramatic. It should cut through the night sky and hit those vampires.
    Not as easy to perform as the old mechanism. More balanced.
    One morf should retain the old heal over time. The hope of Dawn.

    Tldr
    Dawnbreaker should become the new DW ulty with a different animation and no CC.

    The DW ulty should become the new Dawnbreaker to ease off on vampires and to stop all stamina chars from slotting it.

    it can also be used with any magicka weapon! try it, it works there too!
    the DW ulti is fine the way it is.
    and if you don´t like it, you don´t have to use it!
    Anyway you just have 10 slots and just 2 ulti slots so what is the problem exactly?
    Ah, now I get, you get killed by it! Am I right?
    And that is the reason why you want it changed!!!
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.



    You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face

    I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor

    Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper

    These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus.

    Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO

    I am not here to nerf magika.

    I don't think you read what I wrote I was comparing the 2 ult that are almost the same and very balance in no need to change them

    How about you go back to the original topic.
    DW should get dawnbreaker without CC.
    Fighters guild should get DW ulty which is not as OP as DB, making it more balanced if it is to be available at all stam classes.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Azurya wrote: »
    There is a tldr.

    Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.

    Dawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
    1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
    2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.

    Dawnbreaker is an aggressive skill. Very strong. I suggest 2 things:

    1)Dawnbreaker is moved to DW. It belongs there. It improves DW in PvP. It should be renamed and the animation should be something like an anime bladedance/tornado.
    I would also suggest that the CC is removed or changed to a soft "push" effect like the good old templar spammable. AoE.
    The heal overtime and not as easy to perform action of the DW ultimate hinders DW. It doesnt belong in that playstyle.
    In that way the old Dawnbreaker will not be the scourge that it is today, and DW would recieve a boost.
    Enough with the passive playstyle of DW. It's all about stats (bonus piece/dmg/passive bleed) and no action. Remove bleed if it ends up overperforming.

    2)Dawn breaker becomes something else. It is not BiS anymore.
    It should be one morph physical 1 morph magic. No CC.
    Animation/artwork. No more ground smash. It should become a slice in the sky. Similar to what DW ulti looks like but more dramatic. It should cut through the night sky and hit those vampires.
    Not as easy to perform as the old mechanism. More balanced.
    One morf should retain the old heal over time. The hope of Dawn.

    Tldr
    Dawnbreaker should become the new DW ulty with a different animation and no CC.

    The DW ulty should become the new Dawnbreaker to ease off on vampires and to stop all stamina chars from slotting it.

    it can also be used with any magicka weapon! try it, it works there too!
    the DW ulti is fine the way it is.
    and if you don´t like it, you don´t have to use it!
    Anyway you just have 10 slots and just 2 ulti slots so what is the problem exactly?
    Ah, now I get, you get killed by it! Am I right?
    And that is the reason why you want it changed!!!

    Take a seat beside enslaved and lynx.

    I am a stamDK non vampire running DB over leap.
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 8:52AM
  • Vapirko
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Ill try to be OP.

    Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.

    Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.

    What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.

    Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.

    @Enslaved
    Ill try to be you.

    "I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"

    Which leads us back to the beginning of why are u trying to ruin one of the most well balanced skills in the game?
  • Enslaved
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    BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Ill try to be OP.

    Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.

    Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.

    What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.

    Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.

    @Enslaved
    Ill try to be you.

    "I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"

    Which leads us back to the beginning of why are u trying to ruin one of the most well balanced skills in the game?

    It is not balanced when every stamina build runs it

    @FloppyTouch
    How the hell it is balanced.
    FG passives give you bonus dmg for it against half the population.
    It has strong dmg
    It has strong dot
    It has hard CC
    It has low cost
    It is aoe
    It is available no matter what class you are
    No matter what weapon you hold.
    It is the problem solver for everything.
    And you see no problem with this?
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 9:03AM
  • Sixty5
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.

    Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
    But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.
    Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.

    I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
    Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Leap is glitched as. Play the class
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 9:07AM
  • Enslaved
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.

    Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
    But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.

    Leap is glitched as. Play the class

    If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.

    Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
    But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.

    Leap is glitched as. Play the class

    If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?

    The portrait of bias. No fair judgment.

    Only the eternal fear of nerf. That's what you are.
  • Enslaved
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.

    Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
    But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.

    Leap is glitched as. Play the class

    If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?

    The portrait of bias. No fair judgment.

    Only the eternal fear of nerf. That's what you are.

    Well, enlighten me then, oh non biased one who screams for nerf of only viable stam AoE ulti, by your own words.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Read the OP. Adapt. Open topics to improve stamDK.
    Stop clinging to BiS.
  • Sixty5
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »

    Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
    Git gud son

    Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
    I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.

    No.

    I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
    You are scared of change.

    Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?

    DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.

    Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
    But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.

    Leap is glitched as. Play the class

    If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?

    The portrait of bias. No fair judgment.

    Only the eternal fear of nerf. That's what you are.

    Well, enlighten me then, oh non biased one who screams for nerf of only viable stam AoE ulti, by your own words.

    Pretty sure he wanted Standard and Magma armour to be 100 cost ults.

    AKA he thinks of balance in the broadest possible terms.
    Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.

    I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
    Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds
  • Enslaved
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    Read the OP. Adapt. Open topics to improve stamDK.
    Stop clinging to BiS.
    New, modern sDK.
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  • MajBludd
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    Why does dB need a mag morph? It's the fighters guild. You have mage guild for mag ult in meteor.
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    Using suppression techniques and ridicule opinions you don´t agree with is a great way of not being taken serious. Your bias towards PvP and stamDK is so evoking, that you completely forget how your changes would affect the game.

    In many of your other posts/threads you speak of how this game doesn´t promote "play the way you want" anymore. Your suggestions limits the "play the way you want" aspect by limiting people from using a certain skill if they don´t use a certain weapon. The ultimate is a guild-ultimate the same way meteor is a guild ultimate. We even have a main-quest in the game that involves Meridia helping the Fighter´s Guild fighting Molag Bal. Having Dawnbreaker in the Fighter´s Guild skilline makes perfect sense (Dawnbreaker is her weapon after all).

    In other posts I´ve seen from you, you complain about how underwhelming dual-wield is. Your suggestion of moving certain skills (Like Momentum from 2-hander skilline) to Fighter´s Guild skilline, just because you don´t want to use 2hander in PvP (due to the "play the way you want"-aspect) also shows how biased you´re when it comes to discussing balance.

    It´s ok to be a little bit biased, we all are in one way or another, it shows that you´ve some commitment and passion about things. Which is a good thing in most cases. But at least have the courtesy to stop ridicule other people´s opinion just because you don´t agree with them. It creates a much healthier discussion.
  • Calsifer
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    lol, killed by Dawnbreaker too much? boo hoo, adapt or keep feeding us AP.
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    "Lets nerf every stam class that isn't DK or Nightblade"

    How about no.

    Ask for a usefull ulty for your class

    People have since like; forever. Its not coming.
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    Hey there,
    We have removed several posts from this thread for baiting and being off topic. These types of posts are not only unconstructive, they also are against our Community Rules. In the future, be sure to make all posts adhere to the topic at hand and discuss civilly.
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    Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.
    -1, please. I don't use it.

    The majority of people I see using it don't use it efficiently, and I see it as more a crutch for them than a skill.

    BiS? Only in the hands of those who know how to use it and when.

    With great power comes great responsibility.



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