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Everybody desperately needs DB in their bars. DB needs to be restricted and then replaced.
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.Edited by Vapirko on March 27, 2018 4:34AM5 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.
It seems to be that all these years of waiting for a temp ulty have made you salty.
And instead of contineuing to ask for one you became negative.0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.
It seems to be that all these years of waiting for a temp ulty have made you salty.
And instead of contineuing to ask for one you became negative.
Dude, there are many current threads asking for stam ults for more classes. You’re just wrong and you’re obviously clueless. Just accept it and move on. And I don’t main a temp, I’ve been on both sides of the fence having played magblade, magplar, stamplar, stamblade, stam warden, stam sorc and stam dk.Edited by Vapirko on March 27, 2018 4:38AM4 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.
It seems to be that all these years of waiting for a temp ulty have made you salty.
And instead of contineuing to ask for one you became negative.
Dude, there are many current threads asking for stam ults for more classes. You’re just wrong and you’re obviously clueless. Just accept it and move on. And I don’t main a temp, I’ve been on both sides of the fence having played magblade, magplar, stamplar, stamblade, stam warden, stam sorc and stam dk.
Make me.
@Vapirko i challenge you to open a topic on how to improve stamina templar.
I foresee that you will talk about passives and access to Major "insert" instead of improving active playstyle0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »@Vapirko
I challenge you to open a topic on how to improve stamina templar.
Why would I open yet another thread on it? Not only do I not main one, there are many more out there who are more qualified to talk about class upgrades. I have however already made a few threads and chimed in on many about Stam Sorc which I know more about. Stick around and you’ll realize how ZOS operates.1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.
It seems to be that all these years of waiting for a temp ulty have made you salty.
And instead of contineuing to ask for one you became negative.
Dude, there are many current threads asking for stam ults for more classes. You’re just wrong and you’re obviously clueless. Just accept it and move on. And I don’t main a temp, I’ve been on both sides of the fence having played magblade, magplar, stamplar, stamblade, stam warden, stam sorc and stam dk.
Make me.
@Vapirko i challenge you to open a topic on how to improve stamina templar.
I foresee that you will talk about passives and access to Major "insert" instead of improving active playstyle
Again I’m not a stamplar main, but actually stamplar is in a prettty decent spot aside from no class ulti and they can be tricky to learn sustain. Also jabs has been unreliable for a long time.Edited by Vapirko on March 27, 2018 4:42AM0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.
It seems to be that all these years of waiting for a temp ulty have made you salty.
And instead of contineuing to ask for one you became negative.
Dude, there are many current threads asking for stam ults for more classes. You’re just wrong and you’re obviously clueless. Just accept it and move on. And I don’t main a temp, I’ve been on both sides of the fence having played magblade, magplar, stamplar, stamblade, stam warden, stam sorc and stam dk.
Make me.
@Vapirko i challenge you to open a topic on how to improve stamina templar.
I foresee that you will talk about passives and access to Major "insert" instead of improving active playstyle
Again I’m not a stamplar main, but actually stamplar is in a prettty decent spot aside from no class ulti and they can be tricky to learn sustain. Also jabs has been unreliable for a long time.
You are a main meta rider "works fine as it is"0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Shadowmaster wrote: »I dont necessarily agree with your solutions but I tend to agree that any skill that is mandatory for an attribute-based build, should probably be looked at, from a balance standpoint
Its just that DB has a strong effect on its morphs
It gets booster by the FG passives big time. Low cost, Aoe, CC.
And worst off it's free for all stamchars, no matter what weapon, effectivelly killing any identity/difference between builds
This is because most stam classes have no other option. Besides NBs and DKs and the only thing DK has going for it is leap. Seriously dude you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Take your meds and ask for a stamina ulty for your class.
Less generic stamina builds,vigor momentum, SnB,(or shuffle) DAWNBREAKER
More class identity
I would love to see a strong stamina ulty with a good function for stamina templar. The class that is forgoten by Zos
Lol the best threads are the one where OP gets salty when they’re wrong. You don’t think people have been yelling for a good Templar/Stam sorc ult for what is now years? Clearly you haven’t been around for very long and probably shouldn’t be chiming in on class balance.
It seems to be that all these years of waiting for a temp ulty have made you salty.
And instead of contineuing to ask for one you became negative.
Dude, there are many current threads asking for stam ults for more classes. You’re just wrong and you’re obviously clueless. Just accept it and move on. And I don’t main a temp, I’ve been on both sides of the fence having played magblade, magplar, stamplar, stamblade, stam warden, stam sorc and stam dk.
Make me.
@Vapirko i challenge you to open a topic on how to improve stamina templar.
I foresee that you will talk about passives and access to Major "insert" instead of improving active playstyle
Again I’m not a stamplar main, but actually stamplar is in a prettty decent spot aside from no class ulti and they can be tricky to learn sustain. Also jabs has been unreliable for a long time.
You are a main meta rider "works fine as it is"
Wow dude, the worst quality to have is being unable to admit when you’re just plain wrong. It’s okay we’ve all been there in the earlier days of our ESO experience when you think you’ve got it all figured out but really just lack the experience with the game to draw meaningful conclusions. It never feels good when you think you have a good suggestion that you’re going to receive support on and then you get trashed. Anyway you’re proposed change will never happen. ZOS isn’t going to spend any of their resources looking into fighters guild or dw lines since they’ve been around for a long time and neither is really over or under performing. It’s possible certain skills could get tweaked but they’re certainly not going to bother switching the DW ulti for DB and then coming up with a new fighters guild ult. ZOS knows how DB is literally the only worthwhile ult for most stam classes and the resulting (and rightful) uproar that would be caused if they messed with it in any significant way especially without providing useful alternatives which they’ve proved is way way down their list of things to do if it’s even on there at all. And besides I kind of like the DW ult for specific instances like vMA and I’d object strongly if they get rid of it.Edited by Vapirko on March 27, 2018 4:52AM6 -
wolfxspice✭✭✭the rest of the ultimate's in the game should be using dawnbreaker as a model, its not super overpowered, but its far from useless, because of a combination of passive bonuses from having it slotted, and good damage/utility, not the other way around.I'm a casual now0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭wolfxspice wrote: »the rest of the ultimate's in the game should be using dawnbreaker as a model, its not super overpowered, but its far from useless, because of a combination of passive bonuses from having it slotted, and good damage/utility, not the other way around.
Yes. If class and weapon ultimates were not so bellow what DB offers we would see more interesting builds
Too many possible changes.
Passive bonuses
Costs
Utility
AoE/Timed delay
PowerEdited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 4:57AM0 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
How about this then.
Your proposal guts an ultimate that 3/5 stamina classes rely upon in PVP, for the simple reason that it is best in slot for them.
Now why is Dawnbreaker best in slot for those classes?
Is it because as you said, it gives free stats and deals bonus damage to vampires? No, it is because those classes lack other strong offensive ultimates that they can use in a burst combo.
Lets look at Stamplar, massive proponents of Dawnbreaker. Their other offensive option is something that costs a lot less, but deals a fraction of the damage, has no stun, and has a much lower AOE.
Lets go with Warden next. Their only class based offensive ultimate is the bear, and first of all, if you want to use it you lose a back bar ulti, and if you do use it then you have to deal with dumb AI targeting, and the fact that your bear is probably going to be C'd or killed before it can do anything.
Stam Sorc has Atronach, which doesn't even do physical damage. In PVP after the initial impact, you are going to be dealing about 500 damage per second to whatever you are fighting, and it isn't even the damage type that you scale with. Plus an opponent can walk out of its range, or even just straight up kill it. Outside of a duel, this thing is garbage.
But what are our other options for an Ult then? Well we have the 2h ult, which is clunky, can be blocked, offers no AOE, requires that we use a 2H build, and has a lot of its power locked into a gimmick.
Dual Wield on the other hand has a tiny AOE and only deals damage over time which adds nothing to a burst combo.
So based on that why exactly is Dawnbreaker the best choice of ultimate for those classes? It might have something to do with the fact that literally any other offensive choice that those classes have is garbage.
They don't have Leap which is a massive AOE that hits a hell of a lot harder for a lower cost, and has some lovely added effects. And they don't have Incap, which is one of the most stupidly overloaded skills for its cost in the game.
Dawnbreaker is only BIS as an offensive ult, because for anyone who is not a Nightblade or DK, the other options are frankly garbage.
If you want to boost build diversity for stam characters, and add
move into the game, then how about you start advocating for changes to the skill that you want to replace with Dawnbreaker.an anime bladedance/tornado
No one is going to complain about proposed Rend changes because the ability is pretty much completely ignored. Stick your anime ult on there and leave the rest of us who are perfectly happy with our Dawnbreaker out of it.
PS, based on your reasons for the changeDawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Meteor must also need a nerf too.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds8 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
How about this then.
Your proposal guts an ultimate that 3/5 stamina classes rely upon in PVP, for the simple reason that it is best in slot for them.
Now why is Dawnbreaker best in slot for those classes?
Is it because as you said, it gives free stats and deals bonus damage to vampires? No, it is because those classes lack other strong offensive ultimates that they can use in a burst combo.
Lets look at Stamplar, massive proponents of Dawnbreaker. Their other offensive option is something that costs a lot less, but deals a fraction of the damage, has no stun, and has a much lower AOE.
Lets go with Warden next. Their only class based offensive ultimate is the bear, and first of all, if you want to use it you lose a back bar ulti, and if you do use it then you have to deal with dumb AI targeting, and the fact that your bear is probably going to be C'd or killed before it can do anything.
Stam Sorc has Atronach, which doesn't even do physical damage. In PVP after the initial impact, you are going to be dealing about 500 damage per second to whatever you are fighting, and it isn't even the damage type that you scale with. Plus an opponent can walk out of its range, or even just straight up kill it. Outside of a duel, this thing is garbage.
But what are our other options for an Ult then? Well we have the 2h ult, which is clunky, can be blocked, offers no AOE, requires that we use a 2H build, and has a lot of its power locked into a gimmick.
Dual Wield on the other hand has a tiny AOE and only deals damage over time which adds nothing to a burst combo.
So based on that why exactly is Dawnbreaker the best choice of ultimate for those classes? It might have something to do with the fact that literally any other offensive choice that those classes have is garbage.
They don't have Leap which is a massive AOE that hits a hell of a lot harder for a lower cost, and has some lovely added effects. And they don't have Incap, which is one of the most stupidly overloaded skills for its cost in the game.
Dawnbreaker is only BIS as an offensive ult, because for anyone who is not a Nightblade or DK, the other options are frankly garbage.
If you want to boost build diversity for stam characters, and add
move into the game, then how about you start advocating for changes to the skill that you want to replace with Dawnbreaker.an anime bladedance/tornado
No one is going to complain about proposed Rend changes because the ability is pretty much completely ignored. Stick your anime ult on there and leave the rest of us who are perfectly happy with our Dawnbreaker out of it.
PS, based on your reasons for the changeDawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Meteor must also need a nerf too.
The fact that you say 3/5 classes (DB is so much better than Leap just so you know) should be enough for you to start a topic only to improve stamina ultimates.
Apparently you dont want to do that. You are happy using Dawnbreaker on all your stamchars except your Nightblade.
What are you doing??0 -
Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
How about this then.
Your proposal guts an ultimate that 3/5 stamina classes rely upon in PVP, for the simple reason that it is best in slot for them.
Now why is Dawnbreaker best in slot for those classes?
Is it because as you said, it gives free stats and deals bonus damage to vampires? No, it is because those classes lack other strong offensive ultimates that they can use in a burst combo.
Lets look at Stamplar, massive proponents of Dawnbreaker. Their other offensive option is something that costs a lot less, but deals a fraction of the damage, has no stun, and has a much lower AOE.
Lets go with Warden next. Their only class based offensive ultimate is the bear, and first of all, if you want to use it you lose a back bar ulti, and if you do use it then you have to deal with dumb AI targeting, and the fact that your bear is probably going to be C'd or killed before it can do anything.
Stam Sorc has Atronach, which doesn't even do physical damage. In PVP after the initial impact, you are going to be dealing about 500 damage per second to whatever you are fighting, and it isn't even the damage type that you scale with. Plus an opponent can walk out of its range, or even just straight up kill it. Outside of a duel, this thing is garbage.
But what are our other options for an Ult then? Well we have the 2h ult, which is clunky, can be blocked, offers no AOE, requires that we use a 2H build, and has a lot of its power locked into a gimmick.
Dual Wield on the other hand has a tiny AOE and only deals damage over time which adds nothing to a burst combo.
So based on that why exactly is Dawnbreaker the best choice of ultimate for those classes? It might have something to do with the fact that literally any other offensive choice that those classes have is garbage.
They don't have Leap which is a massive AOE that hits a hell of a lot harder for a lower cost, and has some lovely added effects. And they don't have Incap, which is one of the most stupidly overloaded skills for its cost in the game.
Dawnbreaker is only BIS as an offensive ult, because for anyone who is not a Nightblade or DK, the other options are frankly garbage.
If you want to boost build diversity for stam characters, and add
move into the game, then how about you start advocating for changes to the skill that you want to replace with Dawnbreaker.an anime bladedance/tornado
No one is going to complain about proposed Rend changes because the ability is pretty much completely ignored. Stick your anime ult on there and leave the rest of us who are perfectly happy with our Dawnbreaker out of it.
PS, based on your reasons for the changeDawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Meteor must also need a nerf too.
The fact that you say 3/5 classes (DB is so much better than Leap just so you know) should be enough for you to start a topic only to improve stamina ultimates.
Apparently you dont want to do that. You are happy using Dawnbreaker on all your stamchars except your Nightblade.
What are you doing??
It's funny you should mention that, given that I went pretty in depth into the state of Stam Sorc, the one class I feel I have enough experience to actually properly represent, given that I do not play enough Warden or Templar to really have an idea of what the class actually needs or wants.
And in that topic about stam sorc, I mentioned something in there about a physical ult morph for Atronach, because the class lacks any form of physical offensive ultimate.
Funnily enough you commented on that topic too.GeorgeBlack wrote: »Stamplar is in the worst place possible
StamDK is only SnB 2h
(Bleed stamDK is instagib)
Stamsorc can play with any weapon...
You oppose improvements to stamDK and here you are asking for a "different tone" to a class that is viable.
Though I believe that you later edited said comment.
So in your own words, you point out that if something is in a viable state, it shouldn't need a change in tone. Now, I am not a rocket surgeon, but that actually seems like exactly what you want to do to Dawnbreaker, which is a tad hypocritical don't you think?Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds8 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
How about this then.
Your proposal guts an ultimate that 3/5 stamina classes rely upon in PVP, for the simple reason that it is best in slot for them.
Now why is Dawnbreaker best in slot for those classes?
Is it because as you said, it gives free stats and deals bonus damage to vampires? No, it is because those classes lack other strong offensive ultimates that they can use in a burst combo.
Lets look at Stamplar, massive proponents of Dawnbreaker. Their other offensive option is something that costs a lot less, but deals a fraction of the damage, has no stun, and has a much lower AOE.
Lets go with Warden next. Their only class based offensive ultimate is the bear, and first of all, if you want to use it you lose a back bar ulti, and if you do use it then you have to deal with dumb AI targeting, and the fact that your bear is probably going to be C'd or killed before it can do anything.
Stam Sorc has Atronach, which doesn't even do physical damage. In PVP after the initial impact, you are going to be dealing about 500 damage per second to whatever you are fighting, and it isn't even the damage type that you scale with. Plus an opponent can walk out of its range, or even just straight up kill it. Outside of a duel, this thing is garbage.
But what are our other options for an Ult then? Well we have the 2h ult, which is clunky, can be blocked, offers no AOE, requires that we use a 2H build, and has a lot of its power locked into a gimmick.
Dual Wield on the other hand has a tiny AOE and only deals damage over time which adds nothing to a burst combo.
So based on that why exactly is Dawnbreaker the best choice of ultimate for those classes? It might have something to do with the fact that literally any other offensive choice that those classes have is garbage.
They don't have Leap which is a massive AOE that hits a hell of a lot harder for a lower cost, and has some lovely added effects. And they don't have Incap, which is one of the most stupidly overloaded skills for its cost in the game.
Dawnbreaker is only BIS as an offensive ult, because for anyone who is not a Nightblade or DK, the other options are frankly garbage.
If you want to boost build diversity for stam characters, and add
move into the game, then how about you start advocating for changes to the skill that you want to replace with Dawnbreaker.an anime bladedance/tornado
No one is going to complain about proposed Rend changes because the ability is pretty much completely ignored. Stick your anime ult on there and leave the rest of us who are perfectly happy with our Dawnbreaker out of it.
PS, based on your reasons for the changeDawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Meteor must also need a nerf too.
The fact that you say 3/5 classes (DB is so much better than Leap just so you know) should be enough for you to start a topic only to improve stamina ultimates.
Apparently you dont want to do that. You are happy using Dawnbreaker on all your stamchars except your Nightblade.
What are you doing??
It's funny you should mention that, given that I went pretty in depth into the state of Stam Sorc, the one class I feel I have enough experience to actually properly represent, given that I do not play enough Warden or Templar to really have an idea of what the class actually needs or wants.
And in that topic about stam sorc, I mentioned something in there about a physical ult morph for Atronach, because the class lacks any form of physical offensive ultimate.
Funnily enough you commented on that topic too.GeorgeBlack wrote: »Stamplar is in the worst place possible
StamDK is only SnB 2h
(Bleed stamDK is instagib)
Stamsorc can play with any weapon...
You oppose improvements to stamDK and here you are asking for a "different tone" to a class that is viable.
Though I believe that you later edited said comment.
So in your own words, you point out that if something is in a viable state, it shouldn't need a change in tone. Now, I am not a rocket surgeon, but that actually seems like exactly what you want to do to Dawnbreaker, which is a tad hypocritical don't you think?
Lots of twists and turns in here in order for you to drive a point.
You want to improve stamsorc who:can use every stamina weapon effectively and the class skills provide you all the utilities you need. No need. Other classes need improvement
Now. The identity of a class is something i support.
I would like to see your stamsorc who is stronger than my stamDK to play with a stamina sorc ulty instead of DB.
I would also like my stamDK to have it's leap fixed. It is so unreliable. Im sick of slotting DB. I would like to see changes to my DK ulties.
I think we are back on track here, this is a "restrict DB topic" to achieve bigger variety.
You said that classes would be forced to DW then. Oh rly? Did you read that the new DWDB ulty would not have CC?
Tell me would you unslot momentum/execution for DW?
Or would you unslot SnB for DW?
Funnily enoughEdited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 5:46AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
How about this then.
Your proposal guts an ultimate that 3/5 stamina classes rely upon in PVP, for the simple reason that it is best in slot for them.
Now why is Dawnbreaker best in slot for those classes?
Is it because as you said, it gives free stats and deals bonus damage to vampires? No, it is because those classes lack other strong offensive ultimates that they can use in a burst combo.
Lets look at Stamplar, massive proponents of Dawnbreaker. Their other offensive option is something that costs a lot less, but deals a fraction of the damage, has no stun, and has a much lower AOE.
Lets go with Warden next. Their only class based offensive ultimate is the bear, and first of all, if you want to use it you lose a back bar ulti, and if you do use it then you have to deal with dumb AI targeting, and the fact that your bear is probably going to be C'd or killed before it can do anything.
Stam Sorc has Atronach, which doesn't even do physical damage. In PVP after the initial impact, you are going to be dealing about 500 damage per second to whatever you are fighting, and it isn't even the damage type that you scale with. Plus an opponent can walk out of its range, or even just straight up kill it. Outside of a duel, this thing is garbage.
But what are our other options for an Ult then? Well we have the 2h ult, which is clunky, can be blocked, offers no AOE, requires that we use a 2H build, and has a lot of its power locked into a gimmick.
Dual Wield on the other hand has a tiny AOE and only deals damage over time which adds nothing to a burst combo.
So based on that why exactly is Dawnbreaker the best choice of ultimate for those classes? It might have something to do with the fact that literally any other offensive choice that those classes have is garbage.
They don't have Leap which is a massive AOE that hits a hell of a lot harder for a lower cost, and has some lovely added effects. And they don't have Incap, which is one of the most stupidly overloaded skills for its cost in the game.
Dawnbreaker is only BIS as an offensive ult, because for anyone who is not a Nightblade or DK, the other options are frankly garbage.
If you want to boost build diversity for stam characters, and add
move into the game, then how about you start advocating for changes to the skill that you want to replace with Dawnbreaker.an anime bladedance/tornado
No one is going to complain about proposed Rend changes because the ability is pretty much completely ignored. Stick your anime ult on there and leave the rest of us who are perfectly happy with our Dawnbreaker out of it.
PS, based on your reasons for the changeDawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Meteor must also need a nerf too.
The fact that you say 3/5 classes (DB is so much better than Leap just so you know) should be enough for you to start a topic only to improve stamina ultimates.
Apparently you dont want to do that. You are happy using Dawnbreaker on all your stamchars except your Nightblade.
What are you doing??
It's funny you should mention that, given that I went pretty in depth into the state of Stam Sorc, the one class I feel I have enough experience to actually properly represent, given that I do not play enough Warden or Templar to really have an idea of what the class actually needs or wants.
And in that topic about stam sorc, I mentioned something in there about a physical ult morph for Atronach, because the class lacks any form of physical offensive ultimate.
Funnily enough you commented on that topic too.GeorgeBlack wrote: »Stamplar is in the worst place possible
StamDK is only SnB 2h
(Bleed stamDK is instagib)
Stamsorc can play with any weapon...
You oppose improvements to stamDK and here you are asking for a "different tone" to a class that is viable.
Though I believe that you later edited said comment.
So in your own words, you point out that if something is in a viable state, it shouldn't need a change in tone. Now, I am not a rocket surgeon, but that actually seems like exactly what you want to do to Dawnbreaker, which is a tad hypocritical don't you think?
OP is just miffed that they’re wrong and is arguing everything and everyone and obviously creating clashing points of view. Hardly worth trying to reason with someone who just wants to be right.5 -
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✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
But Stam Sorc is in a better place than other classes, so I'm not allowed to ask for changes or buffs.
Hooo hooo....
I will allow you to get a stamina ulty that brings out the identity of your class
Wait, so now it's ok for me to ask for buffs because you allowed it?
Are you like the big boss at Zenimax or something?
What a childish reply.
If I was would I be posting suggestions, or tather implement them.
How about this then.
Your proposal guts an ultimate that 3/5 stamina classes rely upon in PVP, for the simple reason that it is best in slot for them.
Now why is Dawnbreaker best in slot for those classes?
Is it because as you said, it gives free stats and deals bonus damage to vampires? No, it is because those classes lack other strong offensive ultimates that they can use in a burst combo.
Lets look at Stamplar, massive proponents of Dawnbreaker. Their other offensive option is something that costs a lot less, but deals a fraction of the damage, has no stun, and has a much lower AOE.
Lets go with Warden next. Their only class based offensive ultimate is the bear, and first of all, if you want to use it you lose a back bar ulti, and if you do use it then you have to deal with dumb AI targeting, and the fact that your bear is probably going to be C'd or killed before it can do anything.
Stam Sorc has Atronach, which doesn't even do physical damage. In PVP after the initial impact, you are going to be dealing about 500 damage per second to whatever you are fighting, and it isn't even the damage type that you scale with. Plus an opponent can walk out of its range, or even just straight up kill it. Outside of a duel, this thing is garbage.
But what are our other options for an Ult then? Well we have the 2h ult, which is clunky, can be blocked, offers no AOE, requires that we use a 2H build, and has a lot of its power locked into a gimmick.
Dual Wield on the other hand has a tiny AOE and only deals damage over time which adds nothing to a burst combo.
So based on that why exactly is Dawnbreaker the best choice of ultimate for those classes? It might have something to do with the fact that literally any other offensive choice that those classes have is garbage.
They don't have Leap which is a massive AOE that hits a hell of a lot harder for a lower cost, and has some lovely added effects. And they don't have Incap, which is one of the most stupidly overloaded skills for its cost in the game.
Dawnbreaker is only BIS as an offensive ult, because for anyone who is not a Nightblade or DK, the other options are frankly garbage.
If you want to boost build diversity for stam characters, and add
move into the game, then how about you start advocating for changes to the skill that you want to replace with Dawnbreaker.an anime bladedance/tornado
No one is going to complain about proposed Rend changes because the ability is pretty much completely ignored. Stick your anime ult on there and leave the rest of us who are perfectly happy with our Dawnbreaker out of it.
PS, based on your reasons for the changeDawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Meteor must also need a nerf too.
The fact that you say 3/5 classes (DB is so much better than Leap just so you know) should be enough for you to start a topic only to improve stamina ultimates.
Apparently you dont want to do that. You are happy using Dawnbreaker on all your stamchars except your Nightblade.
What are you doing??
It's funny you should mention that, given that I went pretty in depth into the state of Stam Sorc, the one class I feel I have enough experience to actually properly represent, given that I do not play enough Warden or Templar to really have an idea of what the class actually needs or wants.
And in that topic about stam sorc, I mentioned something in there about a physical ult morph for Atronach, because the class lacks any form of physical offensive ultimate.
Funnily enough you commented on that topic too.GeorgeBlack wrote: »Stamplar is in the worst place possible
StamDK is only SnB 2h
(Bleed stamDK is instagib)
Stamsorc can play with any weapon...
You oppose improvements to stamDK and here you are asking for a "different tone" to a class that is viable.
Though I believe that you later edited said comment.
So in your own words, you point out that if something is in a viable state, it shouldn't need a change in tone. Now, I am not a rocket surgeon, but that actually seems like exactly what you want to do to Dawnbreaker, which is a tad hypocritical don't you think?
OP is just miffed that they’re wrong and is arguing everything and everyone and obviously creating clashing points of view. Hardly worth trying to reason with someone who just wants to be right.
I'm not trying to reason with him, I am simply here to watch him argue in circles, because it amuses me.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
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✭✭✭✭✭Don't get the drive or need for any of this. I'm a magika player and DB doesn't need a magika morph. Whilst that would be nice for me personally it has e high utility as it is.
yet again i dont get the oddly aggressive nature in which the OP responds to anyone commenting.
Between OP and the Knowledge these threads seem to have odd motives...Xbox One | EU | EP
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✭✭Don't get the drive or need for any of this. I'm a magika player and DB doesn't need a magika morph. Whilst that would be nice for me personally it has e high utility as it is.
yet again i dont get the oddly aggressive nature in which the OP responds to anyone commenting.
Between OP and the Knowledge these threads seem to have odd motives...
When I disagree with Knowledge I dont reply to his topics. 95% of the time.
Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 6:06AM0 -
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✭Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.
"False."Edited by kadar on March 27, 2018 7:51AM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭How about instead of ruining good ultimates, we fix the ones that are underpowered and useless.8 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭I play a nb, non traditional setup and db rarely do more then 5-6k damage by stam builds by mag builds the db is hitting like a wet noodle idk what people are complaining about.... It's the quantity of 5 +db hitting me at the same time what occasionally kills me but imo Incap hits way way harder then the an could ever do.
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✭✭✭✭Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.9 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.
@Enslaved
Ill try to be you.
"I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 27, 2018 8:33AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭I think it's fine where it is to be honest. Firstly, it fits in the theme of the fighters guild.
Having it not tied to any weapon makes it useable for any class whatever they're doing - pvp or pve. Just lie meteor for Magica classes. Those who don't have a great class ult can use them. Dawnbreaker is even decent on Magica sorc and Templar too.
Both morphs have their place too. One is great in pve and the other great for pvp.
Honestly, I don't have a problem with them.2 -
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✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.
@Enslaved
Ill try to be you.
"I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"
" Im a sDK and one of 2 only ultimates we have on our disposal is too op, please nerf us sDKs some more Zos, we were not nerfed enough, look u missed a spot"3 -
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✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.
@Enslaved
Ill try to be you.
"I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"
" Im a sDK and one of 2 only ultimates we have on our disposal is too op, please nerf us sDKs some more Zos, we were not nerfed enough, look u missed a spot"
Hahhahahahha pathetic.
Tell me. How did you feel?0
