GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.
@Enslaved
Ill try to be you.
"I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"
" Im a sDK and one of 2 only ultimates we have on our disposal is too op, please nerf us sDKs some more Zos, we were not nerfed enough, look u missed a spot"
Hahhahahahha pathetic.
Tell me. How did you feel?
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.
You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.
You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face
FloppyTouch wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.
You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face
I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor
Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper
These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus.
Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO
GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.
You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face
I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor
Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper
These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus.
Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO
I am not here to nerf magika.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
No.
I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
You are scared of change.
Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?
GeorgeBlack wrote: »There is a tldr.
Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Dawnbreaker is an aggressive skill. Very strong. I suggest 2 things:
1)Dawnbreaker is moved to DW. It belongs there. It improves DW in PvP. It should be renamed and the animation should be something like an anime bladedance/tornado.
I would also suggest that the CC is removed or changed to a soft "push" effect like the good old templar spammable. AoE.
The heal overtime and not as easy to perform action of the DW ultimate hinders DW. It doesnt belong in that playstyle.
In that way the old Dawnbreaker will not be the scourge that it is today, and DW would recieve a boost.
Enough with the passive playstyle of DW. It's all about stats (bonus piece/dmg/passive bleed) and no action. Remove bleed if it ends up overperforming.
2)Dawn breaker becomes something else. It is not BiS anymore.
It should be one morph physical 1 morph magic. No CC.
Animation/artwork. No more ground smash. It should become a slice in the sky. Similar to what DW ulti looks like but more dramatic. It should cut through the night sky and hit those vampires.
Not as easy to perform as the old mechanism. More balanced.
One morf should retain the old heal over time. The hope of Dawn.
Tldr
Dawnbreaker should become the new DW ulty with a different animation and no CC.
The DW ulty should become the new Dawnbreaker to ease off on vampires and to stop all stamina chars from slotting it.
FloppyTouch wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Turns out I can seek balance even if it will not be to my direct benefit. Unlike you.
You edited the wrong post. Go and edit your previous one. Save some face
I don't think you understand balance we can compare DB to meteor
Both AoE, knock down, dot, hit hard, passive damage boosters DB weapon Damage meteor give you extra magic for slotting it. They don't need a weapon to slot it and meteor gives back ult for every person you hit making it feel cheaper
These guild ult are very even and balance but having something unique like meteor is range a huge plus.
Like I said I main a mdk vamp light armor and I have no issue at all with this ult its just as balance as meteor IMO
I am not here to nerf magika.
I don't think you read what I wrote I was comparing the 2 ult that are almost the same and very balance in no need to change them
GeorgeBlack wrote: »There is a tldr.
Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 perfect morphs. 2 ACTIVE functions. However there are 2 issues that make it overperform and this must be addressed (and I will make a suggestion)
1)PASSIVE stats make it BiS. It boosts dmg against vampires. (I am not a vampire btw)
2)It can be used with EVERY STAMINA WEAPON. Unrestricted. Undisputed. Unchecked. And it is SUCH an easy skill to use.
Dawnbreaker is an aggressive skill. Very strong. I suggest 2 things:
1)Dawnbreaker is moved to DW. It belongs there. It improves DW in PvP. It should be renamed and the animation should be something like an anime bladedance/tornado.
I would also suggest that the CC is removed or changed to a soft "push" effect like the good old templar spammable. AoE.
The heal overtime and not as easy to perform action of the DW ultimate hinders DW. It doesnt belong in that playstyle.
In that way the old Dawnbreaker will not be the scourge that it is today, and DW would recieve a boost.
Enough with the passive playstyle of DW. It's all about stats (bonus piece/dmg/passive bleed) and no action. Remove bleed if it ends up overperforming.
2)Dawn breaker becomes something else. It is not BiS anymore.
It should be one morph physical 1 morph magic. No CC.
Animation/artwork. No more ground smash. It should become a slice in the sky. Similar to what DW ulti looks like but more dramatic. It should cut through the night sky and hit those vampires.
Not as easy to perform as the old mechanism. More balanced.
One morf should retain the old heal over time. The hope of Dawn.
Tldr
Dawnbreaker should become the new DW ulty with a different animation and no CC.
The DW ulty should become the new Dawnbreaker to ease off on vampires and to stop all stamina chars from slotting it.
it can also be used with any magicka weapon! try it, it works there too!
the DW ulti is fine the way it is.
and if you don´t like it, you don´t have to use it!
Anyway you just have 10 slots and just 2 ulti slots so what is the problem exactly?
Ah, now I get, you get killed by it! Am I right?
And that is the reason why you want it changed!!!
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.
@Enslaved
Ill try to be you.
"I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Ill try to be OP.
Dawnbreaker, the dreaded ultimate that kills us noobs must be remade! We who have L2P issues and refuse to practice our skills while running the squishiest builds we could find on youtube have payed for ESO just like all other players. But, our playstyle is somehow more important and oru word weights more than words of those who try to improve their playstyles to the level of not being oneshotted by light attacks from these awful stamina users that have pretty much a nuke in their department, and they use it if somehow me and my noobz survive the initial light attack - dawnbreaker.
Dawnbreaker has 2 morphs and each are overpowered. No, it is not our fault that we are running in 7 light armor without casting shields in stage 4 of vampirism. No, its not our fault that we run sDK in 7 medium with defiler as our main set and transform in a werewolf when there are 12 gankers with poison surroundiing us. Its not our but zenimax fault. Look what they gave these nasty stamina classes, the dawnbreaker that has 2 morphs and can be used by any scrub who did few dolmens. One morph even stuns us. How overpowered, please nerf, no ultimate should ever stun or deal damage whatsoever, its stupid concept from middle ages. How can we roleplay creatures of darkness when there are these dawnbreaker spammers around? I mean really, one morph even boosts passively the entire damage these nasty stamina classes have? Is that fair? How is that normal? I mean I have quit destiny for far less S* that that.
What I suggest. Split dawnbreaker into 2 separate skills and tie them to blacksmithing ( dawnbreaker of smithing, duh) and jewelrycrafting ( perfect dawnbreaker). Also, if you are not a mastercrafter wielding 2 3handed hammers u cant use it, nor if you are not master jewerycrafter with 3 necklaces and 12 rings on each pseudopod. This will ballance the game so much, to the point I might even buy 750 crowns with money I saved from stealing my neighbour's wifi and buy a tristat potion from a crownstore.
Oh my Molag bal, its hard to rp as OP.
@Enslaved
Ill try to be you.
"I didnt read that OP is a main non vampire stamDK who runs DB as well"
Which leads us back to the beginning of why are u trying to ruin one of the most well balanced skills in the game?
GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
No.
I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
You are scared of change.
Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?
DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
No.
I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
You are scared of change.
Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?
DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.
Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.
Leap is glitched as. Play the class
GeorgeBlack wrote: »BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
No.
I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
You are scared of change.
Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?
DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.
Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.
Leap is glitched as. Play the class
If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?
GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
No.
I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
You are scared of change.
Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?
DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.
Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.
Leap is glitched as. Play the class
If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?
The portrait of bias. No fair judgment.
Only the eternal fear of nerf. That's what you are.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »BtW I don't miss shuffle since I use brass.GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Btw tell me. Do you run the meta SnB 2h bloodspawn on your stamDK?
Git gud son
Oh, my, do I run S&B with ulti generating monster set on a class that sustain on ulti...
I guess you theorycrafted something more exotic like valkyn skoria on a bleed build DW + Bow and think you discovered the new continent.
No.
I am just here to tell you that DB is BiS.
You are scared of change.
Tell me do you miss shuffle in your heavy armor?
DB is BiS yet most sDK players in what u presented as pleb combo ( S&B 2h Bloodspawn ) use Leap and S&B ulti.
Didn't you hear? Leap is garbage, despite dealing roughly 50% more up front damage than Dawnbreaker, with the ability to lock onto a target, and for a lower cost.
But I mean 2% weapon damage and a miserly dot more than make up for that.
Leap is glitched as. Play the class
If leap is glitched and you want DB nerfed, what will you use as sDK? Let me guess, a balista?
The portrait of bias. No fair judgment.
Only the eternal fear of nerf. That's what you are.
Well, enlighten me then, oh non biased one who screams for nerf of only viable stam AoE ulti, by your own words.
New, modern sDK.GeorgeBlack wrote: »Read the OP. Adapt. Open topics to improve stamDK.
Stop clinging to BiS.

-1, please. I don't use it.GeorgeBlack wrote: »Every stamina class uses Dawnbreaker.