People being in up to 5 guilds each with up to 500 members is very likely part of the performance issue that some players suffer from, including the knock-on effect on the trading addons, adding another few hundred to each guild would doubtless make it even worse.

well as someone who is quite firm with the trading system....

at first sight it sounds nice to increase to 750 or even 1000 people per guild. it might easen the competition on the traders...thats what yo would think...

the truth is, there is always someone thinking he needs to make another trade guild...so competition always will be

...and actually it would decrease the quality of the guilds on their spots and increase the gap between hardcore trading guilds and midranged trading guilds. there wont be more active players in the game, and a lot of guilds might manage to get their slots full, but only the biggest will get their slots full with active traders. the rest will be sitting on a bunch of inactives.

...aaaand worst of all: the amount of sold stuff gets doubled, the amount of information in guild history gets doubled, i dont see a benefit for the performance in it...actually i think it might have a really bad effect on ingame performance.

That's ok, the new 750-1000 member social community guilds would gladly pickup smaller traders more consistently

Well @Kilnerdyne you know it also centralizes trading and gives more advantage to the powersellers and also increases the easyness of manipulating prices. it also centralizes the "leadership" of trading to less people, which is dangerous as well - i know some of my former co-gm and neighbours inbelkarth and mournhold quite good, and kills off competition if u are really ambitious as upcoming trade guild gm.

Kilnerdyne wrote: »

but wouldn't larger trading guilds mean more people were likely to join trading guilds overall, leading to alot more items on the market at any time

there wont be ever more items on the market, than people have to sell and people want to buy. thats for sure

Kilnerdyne wrote: »

meaning the ones wanting to stockpile would have to spend larger amounts of time/money to do it?

no, since the market is always limited to the people who want to buy something, and the amount which is able to be put on the market, this doesnt make any change.

but with more centralized trading guilds and less trading-focused guilds, more social guilds on traders as u suggested, it gets easier for the focused powersellers to stock up, to buy up, since the main markets are centralized to a smaller amount of guilds and hubs. also from my experience, price pushes arent made by just 2 or 3 people, those 2 or 3 people might start it, but the focused powersellers see it happening quite fast and everyone jumps into that boat itsself.

with less guilds/submarkets which u have to watch it is getting easier to control the listings. also the listings of those social guilds in atm less fluctuated hubs are getting more and more superfluous and even less people will go there, which also benefits the centralization-effect. after all it will become also harder as newcoming guild to compete, since the interesting trading hubs are getting more and more limited and are settled by the most powerfull guilds - and after all the established guilds will build an even stronger oligopol. this in fact also leads into less trade guild gm having more power over the whole trading system, even though i do not support the lots of mafia blanter about trade guilds, it still isnt healthy, especially when u look around and see, that people like me in the past (i lead 3 trade guilds in popular spots), some guildmasters dont only manage one trade guild, but have enough strength to go for 2, 3 or even 4 decent guilds on popular spots...

Where is the option for guilds are already too big? Even at half the current size a guild would be more than large enough to run content so that isn't a factor. It would reduce the money each guild would likely be willing to spend for vendors making them more affordable for everyone or less profitable for the biggest fish . Why not make them smaller?

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As much as I would like to get (me or my friends) into a large PvE guild that is currently over cap, I really think that allowing us to have super guilds in game will not be a good sign on the long run.
- Why? Because you can just invite the top 1000 players into a guild and then strive the rest of community of opportunities such as joining some good open raids (weekly runs, score run, veteran trials) or some other really hard content that is currently not accessible to the vast majority of players unless they join some dedicated raiding guilds for example.
- The above situation will create a serious imbalance between guilds to a point that smaller guilds might start to collapse, by having players migrating towards larger communities.
- It also create more tension and drama within the guild when certain people don't get along with each other and have no other possibilities because the amount of end game guilds that will accept such players will be much smaller.

- Also very important and almost forgot, without competition things will not go into the right direction.

I would rather like to see an increase in the guilds someone could join. Reason?
- Lets say i want to be into a large PvE community or two where I can't do much hard core things but I can often find some groups for content.
- Then there is also PvP.
- Then there are the trading guilds.
- Then maybe you want to socialize and role play a bit. And this alone can be expanded into several branches such as social guild 1, 2, fishing, housing...
- Maybe you want to be in a guild of your nationality too.
- And maybe you want to be in 2-3 raid groups as well? To have a full schedule?
Having so few guild spots sometimes force us to leave one of them behind for a new one.

500 is more than enough if this is raised then the smaller guilds will have no traders , i think this is your intention wipe out the smaller traders .

Imagine the drama of a 1000 member guild.

No one wants that.

More cons outweigh the pros in my book. I see greater revenues from tax and dues as creating too much of a separation from the small starting guilds.

There are other means to achieve some advances for Guilds. The ability to have a chat channel to invite non-guild members in as well. This would have a greater effect on socialization, LFG, RP and event coordination. In effect this increases the social reach of the guilds while maintaining the gap of new to established trade guilds.

At some point i wrote a post about guild level achievements. I think that would be something that most communities will be looking forward more than anything.
Would you like more people in your guild or maybe less but much more active in one domain or another?
Having a smaller guild that have its players specialized into several branches its far better than a guild with 1000 players.

I feel that as the game and the community grows larger it is only natural that guilds will need to be able to have more members. I am all for ZOS increasing the member limit.