jrgray93 wrote: »

I rarely ever see anyone using Unstable Wall of Elements. They almost all use Blockade. Unstable just seems to muddy your rotation for little or no gain. You're better off with size / duration.

The fix is very, very simple. Make the explosion portion proc immediately if you recast early. Voila. The morph is now competitive. Maybe even boost the explosion damage slightly as well. DK Burning Embers does this with its heal, so why not this spell, too?

Currently, The blockade last 2 more seconds.
the damage your blockade deal during these 2 seconds are better than the explosion. and the size is also increased !

I won't propose anything, I lost enough time with the "Crystal blast is useless " thread ... i gave many ideas and finally they nerfed crystal frag and added the stun to crystal blast in order to make both choice interresting [ Crystal blast stay a potatoe skill that don't have ANY utility] .. they failed and now we are stuck with a skill that i would instantly replace with an useful skill if i didn't had a third bar called " Overload ". In PVE i don't play with crystal frag since morrowind.

I went far ... Well, I mean that even if we lose all the time of the world giving ideas to zenimax, they will just put the increased size on a morph and the increased duration on an other. Here is my opinion.

Unstable wall is arguably better in burst situations like VMA if you are going for super fast clears.

I'd like to see it changed a tad more so it works more like Warden Shalks, but I doubt that is going to happen

Banana wrote: »

Carefull. They may just nerf the good one to make this one more attractive.

Sadly, that's the most likely outcome.

Unstable wall used to be great in pvp back in the days of the purge bug.

the Duration from Blockade (8s) fits much much better into rotations, cause many groundaoes last atleast also 8s, or even longer.

The 6s from Unstable Wall is just to short you you have to recast it more often, resulting in Higher Magickacost, and a rotation which is to complicated.

Increase blockade duration to 12s enemies affected by the Blockade are effected with the Burning statuseffect on the Initial Cast

Increase unstable wall to 8s, and buff the explosion dmg, (maybe tie the explosiondmg to burning statuseffect like; If the target is effected by Burning, the Damage of the Explosion is Increased by X%)

The problem isn't just the difference between the explosion vs. the last 2 seconds' worth of "ticks" of Blockade.

Most human beings are not computers and do not have computer-like reflexes. Moreover, most human beings do not play MMOs at perfect latency 100% of the time. Bar switching is also not instantaneous for most people, where the skill is backbar-ed. So consider what actually happens when you use Unstable most of the time for most people:

1. You recast too quickly, losing the explosion damage.
2. You recast too slowly and lose at least 1 second, possibly 2 seconds, between the explosion and the start of the new Unstable.

In case (1) you are getting the same DOT as Blockade (I think?) but with a smaller area of effect - so either less effective DPS vs. a crowd or more of a chance a boss moves out of the AOE prematurely.

In case (2) you get even less effective DPS over a block of time, say, 1 minute, because whereas Blockade can just be refreshed infinitely before ending, here you will likely lose 5-10 seconds of damage or more if you wait for the explosions each time - and the explosion itself is worth less than the two ticks.

Basically, Unstable makes sense in quick burst fights. If you know you are downing your target in under 8 seconds, let's say. Then you basically want all your damage front-loaded and even if you give up a little it does not matter as much. Someone mentioned vMA, though I would argue Blockade is just as optimal against most opponents (who either die at under 5 seconds or take a lot longer than 10 seconds to burn down). I would think, instead, either PVP or burning overland content or some such. I would certainly not want Unstable in any (vet) dungeon situation, nor a trial.

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Incidentally, I myself first ran into this problem with Daedric Prey. If you wait to get the ending explosion each time, you - on average - lose at least 1 second of uptime for increased pet damage (which may be nothing, depending on the timing of Familiar pulses, but still annoying). It's sort of - do I sacrifice the average 1k-2k DPS from the explosion for guaranteed 100% pet buff uptime (yes, IMO, especially if Atro is out) kind of a dilemma.

i would think about using Unstable Wall of Elements IF it immobilize enemies within Unstable Wall of Elements for 2.5 seconds. and affected enemies remain slowed for 3 seconds after the effect ends.?

So this would be interested in using for PVP and PVE

I think you could make it a more PVP orientated skill. Make its shorter duration a feature. I would make the explosion a lot more damaging. So that if you CC someone inside the wall it really hurts.

Unstable is useful it's sets off balance when using lightning staffs

Doesn't it explode anymore on recast? Used to be like that for ages.

Unstable wall provides more damage than elemental blockade by around 1000-1,5k dps on single target (and is fully viable, better choice for vma or burst fights). The problem is, this morph is harder to sustain and makes you weaker in trash packs.

Idk, maybe on top of your suggestion, make it have 100% chance to proc Burn, Chilled or Concussion on the explosion.

ForsakenSin wrote: »

i would think about using Unstable Wall of Elements IF it immobilize enemies within Unstable Wall of Elements for 2.5 seconds. and affected enemies remain slowed for 3 seconds after the effect ends.?

So this would be interested in using for PVP and PVE

completly useless in PVE, snares and roots arent that strong in PVE as you might think.
Actually there's no reason to have snares or roots on PVE fights. Since you should never die, due to shields, and healers and the adds die rather fast now cause they removed the aoe cap.

@Arobain

No it doesn't. I just tested it. Frost didn't show the animation at all, fire showed the animation but didn't do the damage. Didn't test lightning but IIRC it didn't work either last I tried it.