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New melee magblade meta? update, now 49k selfbuffed dps with dual wield no offbalance

  • Raghul
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    Raghul wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Raghul wrote: »
    I've tested this, used raid setup and 6 million dummy to see how is the sustain, actual DPS and difference between dual inferno.

    Here you can see results:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqLtI5o_-TM&feature=youtu.be
    I acquired 41k, build is totally viable and fun to play, but I still prefer dual destro in raid enviroment:P
    I could farm better crit rates for maybe even 43k but whatever xd
    I like it :-)

    Thx for testing it man, and yeah your crit rate was lower then mine, also zaan was bit lower, im sure you can reach 43k even with apprentice ^^

    A high Crit rate has an even more positive impact on your build, cause Minor Force reasons. @gethemshauna is not running Trap.

    Yep, exactly. Soon I'll do few more tests with trap, what is even more effective due to acuity. It's alteast 2k DPS added.

    i am really excited to see what numbers you will get ^^
    i would parse some more, but i am poor and ran out of pots xD

    Hit me on PCEU, I have literally hundred of thousands sp potions.

    thx man :D
    Aeg4n

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  • Valdek
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    @Raghul

    You´ve no how happy I´m to see that magicka Templar parse/video <3

    Do you have any superstar picture of it? Or anything similar :D

    Couldn't agree more. There is hope!

    @Raghul do you know if it is possible to get anywhere near your damage using sets other than master architect with a magplar?
  • Raghul
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    Valdek wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    @Raghul

    You´ve no how happy I´m to see that magicka Templar parse/video <3

    Do you have any superstar picture of it? Or anything similar :D

    Couldn't agree more. There is hope!

    @Raghul do you know if it is possible to get anywhere near your damage using sets other than master architect with a magplar?

    i think BSW comes very close, i would test it, but i don't have the right Zaan pieces for my 5 - 1 - 1 setup then ^^
    Aeg4n

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  • casparian
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    This is really exciting to see from a magplar perspective, but also bittersweet. Because even though this puts melee magplar far ahead of where they've been for several months, it still doesn't put them on equal footing with other melee builds (stamina builds). Meaning that as great a buff as this is to melee magplar dps, it still isn't enough.

    *sigh*
    Edited by casparian on February 24, 2018 3:00AM
    7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.
  • Faulgor
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Raghul wrote: »
    Tarys wrote: »
    As i cant find a real description of the overall used stuff ..
    1x sword with infused / dmg and 1x sword with nirn / fire? Or what combination is the best?
    Armor all divine or are you actually using infused stuff? Any regeneration or cost reduce glyph or all on dmg?

    Thanks a lot ^^

    Dual swords aquity, mainhand nirn fire damage, offhand infused weapon damage, backbar infused shock damage,
    3 rings master architect, 2 body master architect, 3 body aquity, 2 zaan. All divines, 5 light, 1 medium 1 heavy.
    All weapon damage on jewelry, if you plan to use witchmother or clockworl city food, i would recommend 1 health glyph, if you go with blue food, you can go all max magicka :)

    I have a question about off-hand enchant proc'ing. Bear with me...

    The only time I'm concerned about DW enchants is when I'm playing my stamDK. But I obviously I very frequently heavy attack on the StamDK, especially since I'm wearing Sunder. Now, I know the DW heavy attack procs whichever enchant is not on CD and if neither are on CD, it randomly procs one of two. So you have max uptime on both enchants by basically heavy attacking couple of times on the front bar rotation. I also know that not all DW abilities will proc the off-hand enchant. It seems that only abilities that are visually using the off-hand blade (rapid strikes, rending slashes) have a chance to proc it, while flying blade and deadly cloak don't seem to.

    So finally my question is, since you're only light attacking, do you see any problems proc'ing your offhand enchant? Or does it proc normally on every rotation? Because if it doesn't proc, then you might as well go double nirn and use poisons or something.

    I won't ever read whole comment, because I got ur point after first few words. DW light attack weave prioritizes main hand, yes. Main hand enchant has always a priority - but if that enchant already on cooldown, elemental blockade from backbar procs offhand's enchant instantly. Because it ticks every 1 sec you know why it's around 70% uptime.

    I thought the Berserker enchantment only procced from light/heavy attacks (not skills)?

    It procs from every Weapon ability (most popular: Endless Hail, elemental blockade, poison injection, etc)

    Just tested, Berserker still only triggers from light and heavy attacks. I think that's true for other less used enchantments as well, but I'm not sure. Damaging enchantments like Fire, Frost, Drain Magicka, etc trigger from all weapon abilities just fine.
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  • Maulkin
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    casparian wrote: »
    This is really exciting to see from a magplar perspective, but also bittersweet. Because even though this puts melee magplar far ahead of where they've been for several months, it still doesn't put them on equal footing with other melee builds (stamina builds). Meaning that as great a buff as this is to melee magplar dps, it still isn't enough.

    *sigh*

    Works great for melee magblade deeps though. And we all know they already struggle to find a place in trials.:trollface:
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  • Raghul
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    Have a look at this guys :p just found this cool vid on YT

    https://youtu.be/S2_-O9aAyXI

    I will call the build Ragnell from now on, isn't it cool?

    @gethemshauna thank you for the shoutout and link on your vid m8
    Edited by Raghul on February 24, 2018 11:13AM
    Aeg4n

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  • Maulkin
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    What is it with peeps going for a high crit (Acuity) melee build and not using Trap?

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  • Valdek
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    @Raghul I've tried out using this build except using burning spellweave instead of master architect. My damage is woeful compared to yours. I reach higher dps than this using staffs and ranged dmg (36k) which still isn't anywhere near like what I'm aiming for. Please could you look at this and see if you can spot anything in particular that I am doing wrong?

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    Edited by Valdek on February 25, 2018 2:48PM
  • Valdek
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    I've practised a bit today and managed to get 39.1k, but that still feels too low. That's using a lightning vMA for the ulti, + slimecraw instead, which feels like cheesing it a bit too...
  • casparian
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    Valdek wrote: »
    I've practised a bit today and managed to get 39.1k, but that still feels too low. That's using a lightning vMA for the ulti, + slimecraw instead, which feels like cheesing it a bit too...

    Zaan is a huge part of the high melee magicka parses people are getting.
    7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.
  • Raghul
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    Raghul wrote: »
    Have a look at this guys :p

    https://youtu.be/S2_-O9aAy
    Valdek wrote: »
    I've practised a bit today and managed to get 39.1k, but that still feels too low. That's using a lightning vMA for the ulti, + slimecraw instead, which feels like cheesing it a bit too...

    well, slimecraw isn't that much dps difference, your zaan did 7 % of your damage, slimecraw gives you 8 %. if you are going BSW, make sure to have fire blockade for the uptime. if you could record your parse i could check your rota, but i am sure your rota is fine with that 39k. the benefit of master architect is that you can use the cheap ult on the backbar, swap to frontbar, aquity procs and you will get 15 % more damage from master achitect, and your abilities will all crit, thats pretty strong.
    i also invested heavily into thaumaturge since your damage is mostly dots, i have like 81 in there.
    Aeg4n

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  • Valdek
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    Thank you Rag. I appreciate your help :)
  • Raghul
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    Valdek wrote: »
    Thank you Rag. I appreciate your help :)
    yw, if you need more help, just ask me

    Aeg4n

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    Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
  • casparian
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    @Raghul How do you proc architect if you use the ult on the back bar? Are you not using a maelstrom staff? Do you cancel so quickly that the backbar ult triggers the front bar set?

    Edited by casparian on February 25, 2018 11:37PM
    7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.
  • Runefang
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    casparian wrote: »
    @Raghul How do you proc architect if you use the ult on the back bar? Are you not using a maelstrom staff? Do you cancel so quickly that the backbar ult triggers the front bar set?

    Master Architect is 2x Body and 3x Jewellery.

    Mechanical Acuity is front-barred with 2x Swords and 3x Body.

    So start the fight with a destro/mage guild ultimate (get to the front bar asap for mechanical acuity to proc so the ulti gets the full benefit), this also procs Major Slayer since Master Architect is always slotted. From then on you use whatever cheap ulti your class has.

    Having two MA sets is very confusing :)
  • Shanan
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    Could you tell me you rotation? What to do, when acuity proccs? Burst with bow? Spam concealed?
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