Opinions... most under-rated armor sets

UppGRAYxDD · February 2018

Storm Knights Plate is one of my favorite sets in the game...just a shame it doesnt grow with spell damage anymore.

Osteos · February 2018

Illurian wrote: »

Kagrenac's Hope.
While not technically speaking "unpopular", often overlooked or underrated. Rezzing with this set as a Templar healer feels really smooth, and can sometimes make the difference between a wipe or success. I don't PvP much but I'd imagine that this set would work wonders on a Templar healer there, too.

Toothrow
Not many classes have innate access to Major Savagery, but do have access to Major Brutality. This set serves as an easy way to get both buffs permanently up (assuming an innate ay to get Major Brutality), for when Weapon Damage pots aren't required. Not an optimal set by far, but works well for instances where you'd rather save your fancy pots and use trash pots instead.

Kag's is a really nice set for pvp and the extra health is nice for leveling undaunted on new vet characters. Lots of end bosses have 1 shots if you have low health and most of us have low health until we get those undaunted passives.

pod88kk · February 2018

Oblivion's Foe, filled up 4000 soul gems grinding the fighter's guild up when I switched my magblade to Stam....... Which I then switched back to magicka

Sergykid · February 2018

essence thief

Jim_Pipp · February 2018

This thread has been really interesting reading, I hope it stays active.

I wonder if withered hand isn't underrated in VMA or on some tank builds in group dungeons where there almost always mobs dying.

5-piece - When an enemy within 28 meters dies, heal for 1290 Health and gain 1290 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds

Once upon a time people said it would be amazing, but it seems to have been forgotten.

https://youtu.be/SXhbAi54lkI

IcyDeadPeople · February 2018

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

This thread has been really interesting reading, I hope it stays active.

I wonder if withered hand isn't underrated in VMA or on some tank builds in group dungeons where there almost always mobs dying.

5-piece - When an enemy within 28 meters dies, heal for 1290 Health and gain 1290 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds

I used vengeance leech a lot back in the day for grinding mobs without repairing armor or wasting potions. It's similar but also gives stamina

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · February 2018

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruction mastery. Good balance of stats and a ton of magic with out losing too much of the other stats.

Destruction Mastery has a fatal flaw, however... Where are the staves for this set?

you are now guaranteed to get a set weapon for Healer's Habit, Destruction Mastery, Archer's Mind and Footman's Fortune from both normal and vet DSA, and they are "smart" drops, so you with never get a bow of Destruction Mastery or a ice staff of Archer's Mind, so they are really easy to get, i have a couple of inferno staffs and lightning staffs sitting in my inventory, even though i use the lightning Destructive Impact front bar/crushing wall on my sorc, the only toon i have the set on.

brandonv516 · February 2018

Duroks Bane has gotten a lot of talk lately. Never heard of it before a couple months ago.

FrostFallFox · February 2018

Iceheart is actually really nice. Compared to grothdarr in PvE, you can get a really nice uptime with it if you're not taking immediate damage. You can preserve it with your own damage shield. Very good for flawles conquerer. I also like using it in vet dungeons on my Warden to proc Maim on the trash mobs more often.

Ihatenightblades · February 2018

Overwhelming surge. On a magplar is really nice if you stay close to opponent.

LiquidPony · February 2018

Lynx7386 wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Swamp Raider.

It's not as good in PvE as a pure damage set like Hunding's or Briarheart, but it's still pretty good. It procs on a much wider range of effects than the tooltip would lead you to believe, to the point where any stamina build can keep it procced close to 100% fairly easily.

And it can make for some nasty PvP builds. That's a big damage buff to Lethal Arrow, Poison Inject, Acid Spray, Spectral Bow, Killer's Blade, Incap, etc.

Combine swamp raider on a stamdk with morag tong - all of your poisons (even alchemical poisons, poison enchants, and monster set poison procs) deal 10% more damage, and you can use flames of oblivion for major savagery while slotted, it scales with highest stat (stamina/weapon damage in this case), and deals magic damage to keep swamp raider procced. Boosts venemous claw, noxious breath, corrosive armor, poison injection, acid spray, acid barrage, spawn of mephala, etc.

While Flames of Oblivion does indeed proc Swamp Raider, it's not necessary to proc it. Swamp Raider procs off of ... well, just about every proc set effect in the game as far as I can tell. Sunderflame, Viper, Red Mountain, Selene, Velidreth, Stormfist, Kra'gh, etc. It's up 90-100% on just about any stam build using a monster set.

Konstant_Tel_Necris · February 2018

Sergykid wrote: »

essence thief

I wish if his proc can be useful by ally or there was healer version of set like this, such good set and such waste.

code65536 · February 2018

Illurian wrote: »

Kagrenac's Hope.
While not technically speaking "unpopular", often overlooked or underrated. Rezzing with this set as a Templar healer feels really smooth, and can sometimes make the difference between a wipe or success. I don't PvP much but I'd imagine that this set would work wonders on a Templar healer there, too.

My first VR16 set was Kag. I still have it, too. This was when IC was released, when VR16 was new, and Julianos did not yet exist. Kag had just been buffed by adding spell damage to the 5p, and it was the best crafted magicka set available.

And as I mentioned earlier, I prefer Kag on lowbie accounts, and it's what I used when my EU account hit CP160. I used 5p Destruction Mastery, 5p Kag, and 1p monster. It's extremely accessible and requires virtually no farming (since DM can be bought cheaply from stores, and Kag is craftable--just had to ask around for a crafter to help me out--leaving only the 1p, which was easily acquired by spending some keys from normal pledges).

The reason why Kag works so well for lowbies is that

Low-CP accounts have lower health (due to not having reached the cap for the CP health bonus reached at 100 red CP spent) and less mitigation, so the health bonus on Kag is very useful.
Low-CP accounts need more resource sustain. Not just because of the weaker green tree, but because their damage-per-resource is lower so they need more resources to do the same amount of damage. For example, an enemy that might take two weaves of a spammable to kill for a maxed character might instead take three weaves to kill for a character with lower CP, which means more resources spent to kill that enemy. So the regen bonus on Kag is pretty useful here.
One of the main differences between Julianos and Kag is that Julianos has two crit chance bonuses. Low CP characters don't have a lot of points to spend in Elfborn to fully capitalize on that crit chance.

Raudgrani · February 2018

Osteos wrote: »

Illurian wrote: »

Kagrenac's Hope.
While not technically speaking "unpopular", often overlooked or underrated. Rezzing with this set as a Templar healer feels really smooth, and can sometimes make the difference between a wipe or success. I don't PvP much but I'd imagine that this set would work wonders on a Templar healer there, too.

Toothrow
Not many classes have innate access to Major Savagery, but do have access to Major Brutality. This set serves as an easy way to get both buffs permanently up (assuming an innate ay to get Major Brutality), for when Weapon Damage pots aren't required. Not an optimal set by far, but works well for instances where you'd rather save your fancy pots and use trash pots instead.

Kag's is a really nice set for pvp and the extra health is nice for leveling undaunted on new vet characters. Lots of end bosses have 1 shots if you have low health and most of us have low health until we get those undaunted passives.

Rolling heavy Kagrenac on my PVP templar healer, which I'm also using in exact same gear (S&B + Resto) for PVE, it works so well I don't even bother to have a duplicate set in other than Impenetrable. I was the only healer last evening in Asylum Sanctorium, for a really noob group needing a lot of resurrects and healing, and it did awesome - so fast picking people up.

The_Protagonist · February 2018

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruction mastery. Good balance of stats and a ton of magic with out losing too much of the other stats.

Destruction Mastery has a fatal flaw, however... Where are the staves for this set?

At least on PC/EU, I saw several inferno, lightning and ugh frost staves up for sale in guild stores at rather reasonable prices.

Edit: Typo

Androconium · February 2018

Hello,

Withered Hand.

Is under-rated the same as under-whelming?

ak_pvp · February 2018

The 5pc and 3pc set that reduce detection.

Mega EZ thieves+DB heists.

RavenSworn · February 2018

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

This thread has been really interesting reading, I hope it stays active.

I wonder if withered hand isn't underrated in VMA or on some tank builds in group dungeons where there almost always mobs dying.

5-piece - When an enemy within 28 meters dies, heal for 1290 Health and gain 1290 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds

Once upon a time people said it would be amazing, but it seems to have been forgotten.
https://youtu.be/SXhbAi54lkI

Used this on my warden and sorcerer mag tank for pledges. You can technically timed your chain pulls to fit the CD.

Duneripper + Tava / hist bark

I wonder if anyone has tried to 'sap' tank with imperium and combat physician. Add 1 piece iceheart or 2 piece blood spawn. O_o

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · February 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

The 5pc and 3pc set that reduce detection.

Mega EZ thieves+DB heists.

That is meta for sneaking, hardly underrated.

SydneyGrey · February 2018

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

I wonder if withered hand isn't underrated in VMA or on some tank builds in group dungeons where there almost always mobs dying.
5-piece - When an enemy within 28 meters dies, heal for 1290 Health and gain 1290 Magicka. This effect can occur once every 3 seconds

I use Withered Hand for my training armor for leveling up magicka characters. Gives them great surviveability before they have all their passives unlocked and skills leveled.

TarrNokk · February 2018

Wyrd Tree's Blessing Set

LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage.
(4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(5 items) Casting a spell has a 100% chance to remove 5 negative effect, this can occur every 15 seconds.

Nice for pvp

Uncle Sheo · February 2018

TarrNokk wrote: »

Wyrd Tree's Blessing Set

LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage.
(4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(5 items) Casting a spell has a 100% chance to remove 5 negative effect, this can occur every 15 seconds.

Nice for pvp

Shh

Ragnarock41 · February 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

shacklebreaker.

You just can't go wrong with shacklebreaker. I don't know why its unpopular, pair it with another damage or sustain set and there you have yourself an easy build to play.

Are you kidding? Everyone uses this set in PvP.

I think you mistake this set with seventh legion.

I do ask all my friends about their gear, and I can say shacklebreaker is not that popular.

Maura_Neysa · February 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Twilight's Embrace.

Because Sanctuary is a thing, TE gets no love but I just find this set to be criminally underrated as it's more offensive than Sanctuary could ever hope to be.

Because Healers really want that offensive, and DD don’t mind giving up a 5 piece for survivablity?

Ch4mpTW · February 2018

Narvuntien wrote: »

Shadowrend.

Its had a whole bunch of buffs recently and I haven't seen anyone use both pieces.

@Narvuntien I actually use Shadowrend exclusively on my MagSorc now, whenever I am doing content solo. Goes hand and hand with pet builds like peanut butter and jelly.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2018

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Aebaradath · February 2018

Trainee Set.

Sixty5 · February 2018

I've really been enjoying Unfathomable Darkness.

Wouldn't say that it is the most underrated set, but it seems to be pretty ignored for the most part.

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2018

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Trainee Set.

Why not shacklebreaker + health glyphs instead of that?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

Night's Silence and Shadow dancer. For those of us who don't want to be a vampire and are not a nightblade, the ability to move fast in stealth is much more important in PvP than raw stats.

Nightblade can only move fast in stealth with the magic morph of Veiled Strike (Concealed Weapon) and it’s damage output sucks. Don’t need people thinking Nightblade have passives that we don’t have.