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What THE F is wrong with BAR SWAP ???????????

  • Zaidtro
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    Hi all,

    We've seen reports of this and are looking into it, but we could use a few more details from you. Are you experiencing this while using a keyboard-and-mouse, or a gamepad?

    Also, as @Nihility42 mentioned, some are reporting that this is happening when using the LUI addon. While we don't want to blame addons, it would be helpful to rule them out of the equation. The easiest way to do this is to copy your AddOns folder to your desktop, delete it from your "Elder Scrolls Online > live" folder and try running the game with nothing in your AddOns folder. If you don't see the issue, start placing addons back into your AddOns folder one at a time to see if the issue resurfaces.

    all addons deleted + client repaired
    still buggy
    Edited by Zaidtro on February 13, 2018 12:48AM
    I never claimed to be a smallscaler ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • zassasaurus
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    I am having this issue (PC NA), using keyboard and mouse to swap. I have it on different characters with different weapons, who have and haven't changed weapon appearance at the outfit station and both with and without addons (completely removed addon folder, not just disabled addons).

    As mentioned by someone else, when I weapon swap my fps drops by about 20 then goes back up again. I tried setting my textures to low as mentioned in this thread and it appears to have fixed it.
  • rhapsodious
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    Found a quick fix - set TEXTURE SETTINGS to low and swap will perform normally again.

    Its only texture settings that make the difference, everything else can stay the same.

    Added: Game looks really ugly with low textures though. Perfect conditions to admire your new outfit ... err ... or not

    Can confirm that this works. It's ugly, but it works.

    PC/NA, M+K, mostly default keybindings (~ to barswap), using two staves, my magblade is broken but my Templar healer can swap with no issues with high textures.
  • Zaidtro
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    Found a quick fix - set TEXTURE SETTINGS to low and swap will perform normally again.

    Its only texture settings that make the difference, everything else can stay the same.

    Added: Game looks really ugly with low textures though. Perfect conditions to admire your new outfit ... err ... or not

    this fix works...
    sad day xD
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  • starkerealm
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    Zaidtro wrote: »
    Found a quick fix - set TEXTURE SETTINGS to low and swap will perform normally again.

    Its only texture settings that make the difference, everything else can stay the same.

    Added: Game looks really ugly with low textures though. Perfect conditions to admire your new outfit ... err ... or not

    this fix works...
    sad day xD

    Yeah, this does address it. What is going on in the backend to create this mess?
  • magictucktuck
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    Has not happened to me yet
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  • nekura
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    This happened to me before the patch, but game is almost unplayable now. Ping is "only" 118ish, but my FPS has dropped quite a bit (yes, Full screen).
  • Rainingblood
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    Hi all,

    We've seen reports of this and are looking into it, but we could use a few more details from you. Are you experiencing this while using a keyboard-and-mouse, or a gamepad?

    Also, as @Nihility42 mentioned, some are reporting that this is happening when using the LUI addon. While we don't want to blame addons, it would be helpful to rule them out of the equation. The easiest way to do this is to copy your AddOns folder to your desktop, delete it from your "Elder Scrolls Online > live" folder and try running the game with nothing in your AddOns folder. If you don't see the issue, start placing addons back into your AddOns folder one at a time to see if the issue resurfaces.

    My post from the thread in the bug reports forum:
    Deleted addon folder for a clean test & checked 5 characters while outside Cyrodiil. Initially they had a delay when swapping, but it went away after a while, though every one had a 2-second GCD before I could swap again...

    Waiting in queue to try in Cyrodiil. Even without the delay, a 2-second GCD to swap is not good. Also, I am using a button on my mouse to swap (keyboard).
    Edited by Rainingblood on February 13, 2018 1:22AM
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  • Moloch1514
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    Can the ZOS servers handle outfits? Maybe swapping weapons now requires more data to search through?
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  • WhiteScythe
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    Funny that.. my recent post was about how annoying weapon swap is. Why not just get rid of it? :dizzy:
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  • starkerealm
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    Funny that.. my recent post was about how annoying weapon swap is. Why not just get rid of it? :dizzy:

    If the game was balanced around not having a back bar, sure. But, it's not.
  • stileanima
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    Found a quick fix - set TEXTURE SETTINGS to low and swap will perform normally again.

    Its only texture settings that make the difference, everything else can stay the same.

    Added: Game looks really ugly with low textures though. Perfect conditions to admire your new outfit ... err ... or not

    Also experiencing this same bug, and the above fix worked for me.

    I also use LUI and a few other addons, and tried both disabling them and completely removing my addons folder, and still experience the bug. I tried to repair my game, too, as I heard that that worked for a couple of friends to fix it, but it had no effect for me.

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  • thedude33
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    It's a newly added feature to separate the good players from the potatoes.

    'LEARN TO TIME THE BAR SWAP LAG CANCELLING BETTER YOU NOOBS ! IT WILL IMPROVE YOUR DPS !!!'
  • RavenSworn
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    NOW YOU KNOW HOW US OCEANIC PLAYERS FEEL PLAYING WITH HIGH PING.

    Lol just kidding, this sucks, haven't gotten round in the game yet but I have a feeling it ties in with the weapon dyes and it's coding messing up.
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  • starkerealm
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    stileanima wrote: »
    Found a quick fix - set TEXTURE SETTINGS to low and swap will perform normally again.

    Its only texture settings that make the difference, everything else can stay the same.

    Added: Game looks really ugly with low textures though. Perfect conditions to admire your new outfit ... err ... or not

    Also experiencing this same bug, and the above fix worked for me.

    I also use LUI and a few other addons, and tried both disabling them and completely removing my addons folder, and still experience the bug. I tried to repair my game, too, as I heard that that worked for a couple of friends to fix it, but it had no effect for me.

    Which, of course, makes the game look blurry and unfocused. Which is exactly what we needed today. :\
  • Vahrokh
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    I don't use LUI or whatever, just PC with keyboard and mouse, 100Mb/s optic fiber with 58ms. Bar swap delay, lightning staff light attacks remain stuck 3 times as much as before this patch, so after a fight I cannot mount or anything until I shoot some random spells on the empty floor.

    Finally, in the patch notes I recall sorcs speed penalty for summoning pets would be removed. No, it's still here.
    Edited by Vahrokh on February 13, 2018 3:03AM
  • di_rty
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    Have tested with addons on and off. Using keyboard/mouse. Have noticed weapon swap on staves is much worse than on other weapons. Zos, this is a MAJOR issue. DPS majorly affected, survivability majorly affected, rotation majorly affected. Don't let this take a week to fix. Costumes are cool and all, but don't let it affect core gameplay mechanics.
  • erlewine
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    edit: posted in wrong thread
    Edited by erlewine on February 13, 2018 3:46AM
    eisley the worst
  • VexingArcanist
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    I do not experience this issue, I thought for sure I would. I use what some might consider a gross amount of addons as well. My system is adequate, not cutting edge like some here (the guy with 40gb ram? wtf..). Been levelling a new character doing overworld and random dungeons.
  • Draxys
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    ye 6 seconds to bar swap, makes pvp a [snip] blast

    [Edited to remove profanity-making]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 15, 2018 4:19PM
    2013

    rip decibel
  • starkerealm
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    Draxys wrote: »
    ye 6 seconds to bar swap, makes pvp a [snip] blast

    I, legitimately, had a 10 second count trying to swap bars on my stam knight earlier. And, yeah, if anyone is in the vicinity of me, I'm looking at a 6 second swap time.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 15, 2018 4:19PM
  • starkerealm
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    di_rty wrote: »
    Have tested with addons on and off. Using keyboard/mouse. Have noticed weapon swap on staves is much worse than on other weapons. Zos, this is a MAJOR issue. DPS majorly affected, survivability majorly affected, rotation majorly affected. Don't let this take a week to fix. Costumes are cool and all, but don't let it affect core gameplay mechanics.

    No, it's not a "major issue." It's flat out unplayable for the content I was doing yesterday. Literally unplayable.
  • madeeh91rwb17_ESO
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    Is happening on Mouse and Keyboard. AddOns don't have any effect.
    Tried low textures for a few minutes. That fixed it.
    Edited by madeeh91rwb17_ESO on February 13, 2018 5:18AM
  • starkerealm
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    What's absolutely infuriating about this is, it comes bundled with a DLC that introduces new endgame content. ENDGAME CONTENT THAT IS UNPLAYABLE because of this issue.
  • M_Volsung
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    Hi all,

    We've seen reports of this and are looking into it, but we could use a few more details from you. Are you experiencing this while using a keyboard-and-mouse, or a gamepad?


    PC/NA, using a gamepad, and no add-ons.

    3 seconds to swap when I'm alone, longer with others around.
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  • thedude33
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    M_Volsung wrote: »
    Hi all,

    We've seen reports of this and are looking into it, but we could use a few more details from you. Are you experiencing this while using a keyboard-and-mouse, or a gamepad?


    PC/NA, using a gamepad, and no add-ons.

    3 seconds to swap when I'm alone, longer with others around.

    Tell the others in your computer room to leave imo
  • Draxys
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    lowering textures did not fix this for me, although it seems to have sped it up slightly. but not enough to get it back to normal
    2013

    rip decibel
  • Banana
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    Maybe its linked to off balance now. :*
    Edited by Banana on February 13, 2018 6:07AM
  • starkerealm
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    Banana wrote: »
    Maybe its linked to off balance now.

    It's something in the graphics pipeline. Probably a texture call that gets way more priority than it should. I mean, I'm guessing, I don't know the architecture at all, but, still.
  • Mayrael
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    Hah... Maybe it has something to do with this new overpriced outfit system? :)
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
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