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Found a way to nerf templar purge
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Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »Bro. Why would you ever need to nerf purge? A single light attack is able to put 5-6 debuffs on a target. I could never purge enough to keep everything off me with out draining my self of magica and dieing.
Run desert rose with atro mundus in heavy armor 1h and shield. You can hold block for about 10-13 seconds non stop until getting low on stam. Then literally 1 heavy attack with snb and you got full stam to block permanently for another 10-13 sec. i am not joking here in a 1v1 situation you are unkillable AND you if you run 5 soulshrine heavy with it you dish out great damage.
Also run engine guardian skoria malubeth shadowrend alot can work with it.
Purifying light - vampires bane - soul assault - jabs if needed - jesus beam - Good night0 -
Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »Bro. Why would you ever need to nerf purge? A single light attack is able to put 5-6 debuffs on a target. I could never purge enough to keep everything off me with out draining my self of magica and dieing.
Run desert rose with atro mundus in heavy armor 1h and shield. You can hold block for about 10-13 seconds non stop until getting low on stam. Then literally 1 heavy attack with snb and you got full stam to block permanently for another 10-13 sec. i am not joking here in a 1v1 situation you are unkillable AND you if you run 5 soulshrine heavy with it you dish out great damage.
Also run engine guardian skoria malubeth shadowrend alot can work with it.
Purifying light - vampires bane - soul assault - jabs if needed - jesus beam - Good night
1) one heavy attack will bring you to 3-4k stam. Maybe 5k if you're running a ton of CP for it.
2) the burst combo you mentioned won't kill a competent PvP player 1v1. Maybe Xv1 but never 1v1. Soul Assault is the Xv1 ulti of choice.
3) please L2P magplar before spewing ignorance on the forums.3 -
Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »Bro. Why would you ever need to nerf purge? A single light attack is able to put 5-6 debuffs on a target. I could never purge enough to keep everything off me with out draining my self of magica and dieing.
Run desert rose with atro mundus in heavy armor 1h and shield. You can hold block for about 10-13 seconds non stop until getting low on stam. Then literally 1 heavy attack with snb and you got full stam to block permanently for another 10-13 sec. i am not joking here in a 1v1 situation you are unkillable AND you if you run 5 soulshrine heavy with it you dish out great damage.
Also run engine guardian skoria malubeth shadowrend alot can work with it.
Purifying light - vampires bane - soul assault - jabs if needed - jesus beam - Good night
1) one heavy attack will bring you to 3-4k stam. Maybe 5k if you're running a ton of CP for it.
2) the burst combo you mentioned won't kill a competent PvP player 1v1. Maybe Xv1 but never 1v1. Soul Assault is the Xv1 ulti of choice.
3) please L2P magplar before spewing ignorance on the forums.
Lol i would destroy you with my magplar i beat the best players on xbox na and won a 500k duel tourney not even a month ago i know what im doin
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Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Might as well call them weak DKs if every ability they have is nerfed into the ground.
Yeah, but that *** has got to go - or, the cost has to be increased like six times, at least. It's ridiculous, seeing one guy going up and down in a keep wall tower, "purge - bol - purge - bol - purge - bol - purge - bol - purge - bol" and staying immovable all the time, specifically just to waste everyone's time, and to show off how "good 1vX'ers" they are.
They don't even hurt anyone, oh no - this is specifically just to make taking a keep last like 5 more minutes. Then they complain and cry about "zerging" when you finally kill them.
If you or your allies are dumb enough that you get distracted from a keep capture to spend 5 minutes chasing a player who can't hurt you (per your own description) you have bigger problems.
#NerfStupidity instead.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »Bro. Why would you ever need to nerf purge? A single light attack is able to put 5-6 debuffs on a target. I could never purge enough to keep everything off me with out draining my self of magica and dieing.
Run desert rose with atro mundus in heavy armor 1h and shield. You can hold block for about 10-13 seconds non stop until getting low on stam. Then literally 1 heavy attack with snb and you got full stam to block permanently for another 10-13 sec. i am not joking here in a 1v1 situation you are unkillable AND you if you run 5 soulshrine heavy with it you dish out great damage.
Also run engine guardian skoria malubeth shadowrend alot can work with it.
Purifying light - vampires bane - soul assault - jabs if needed - jesus beam - Good night
1) one heavy attack will bring you to 3-4k stam. Maybe 5k if you're running a ton of CP for it.
2) the burst combo you mentioned won't kill a competent PvP player 1v1. Maybe Xv1 but never 1v1. Soul Assault is the Xv1 ulti of choice.
3) please L2P magplar before spewing ignorance on the forums.
Lol i would destroy you with my magplar i beat the best players on xbox na and won a 500k duel tourney not even a month ago i know what im doin
Alright Runny. Ron Burgundy 79 is my GT. Let me know when you want to duel for that 500k. Bring that magplar with you. I'm sure Blurry would be happy to show up and pack you up too.1 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wow @Ihatenightblades got called out.Will he accept probably not.Edited by KingJ on January 14, 2018 8:40PM1 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »They can cleanse up to 5-6 negatives. How bout just cut that number to 3? Simple and stam/magdk could actually stand a chance against magplars you know...they can spam it anyway just make them hve to actually spam it if they have multiple dots. Hell i would be happy with it cleansing 2 instead of 5
I found a way to nerf wings so my mag nb can kille the easier.Might as well call them weak DKs if every ability they have is nerfed into the ground.
Yeah, but that *** has got to go - or, the cost has to be increased like six times, at least. It's ridiculous, seeing one guy going up and down in a keep wall tower, "purge - bol - purge - bol - purge - bol - purge - bol - purge - bol" and staying immovable all the time, specifically just to waste everyone's time, and to show off how "good 1vX'ers" they are.
They don't even hurt anyone, oh no - this is specifically just to make taking a keep last like 5 more minutes. Then they complain and cry about "zerging" when you finally kill them.
Sounds alot like some nightblades that just spam dodge roll with eternal hunt and then cloak, over and over just to be annoying trolls when they realize they don't stand a chance against whoever they are fighting.
Yes, that could be me but without the Eternal Hunt. I don't fancy being either chased or spanked, I like killing - and playing the game. I don't intentionally waste peoples time. So if I realize I won't be able to take on all these, I simply leave. One single hit from a decent player, and I'd be more or less done with.
There are far easier ways to take me out though, compared to a templar like this. For these NB's, you can pull back a moment and just slot a skill like Revealing Flare or Caltrops, or simply mark them with a number or skills to pull out of stealth, and game is over. I do this towards NB's with my templar healer all the time. Scorching Flare itself on a vamp NB is really bad news, even death to some.
NB's are - I hate to say this - more of a "l2p" issue. This templar issue, is more or a poor balance one. Overpowered skill(s).
Lmao
My stamblade is so much easier to play in outnumbered situations than my magplar.
Stamblade is the most popular solo class in cyrodiil for a reason.Edited by Ariades_swe on January 14, 2018 10:15PM0 -
mikey_reach✭✭✭With the interruption changes from dragon bones why don't they just give cleanse the same cast time as dark deal so i can actually have some counterplay increasing the cost is not the way to go0
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montiferus✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »Bro. Why would you ever need to nerf purge? A single light attack is able to put 5-6 debuffs on a target. I could never purge enough to keep everything off me with out draining my self of magica and dieing.
Run desert rose with atro mundus in heavy armor 1h and shield. You can hold block for about 10-13 seconds non stop until getting low on stam. Then literally 1 heavy attack with snb and you got full stam to block permanently for another 10-13 sec. i am not joking here in a 1v1 situation you are unkillable AND you if you run 5 soulshrine heavy with it you dish out great damage.
Also run engine guardian skoria malubeth shadowrend alot can work with it.
Purifying light - vampires bane - soul assault - jabs if needed - jesus beam - Good night
1) one heavy attack will bring you to 3-4k stam. Maybe 5k if you're running a ton of CP for it.
2) the burst combo you mentioned won't kill a competent PvP player 1v1. Maybe Xv1 but never 1v1. Soul Assault is the Xv1 ulti of choice.
3) please L2P magplar before spewing ignorance on the forums.
Lol i would destroy you with my magplar i beat the best players on xbox na and won a 500k duel tourney not even a month ago i know what im doin
I’d be willing to pay 100k just to get his GT at this point.
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Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Roflmao...soul assault and magplar execute on you bar is not "good night"...ESPECIALLY if you are running desert rose and HEAVY ARMOR. and what else did you say? You run engine guardian? Yeh man...ur killing CP 110 noobs. That's it man.
You say you won a 500k dueling tourney on Xbox? Was it your trading guild that hosted it?2 -
Ashamray✭✭✭✭✭Roflmao...soul assault and magplar execute on you bar is not "good night"...ESPECIALLY if you are running desert rose and HEAVY ARMOR. and what else did you say? You run engine guardian? Yeh man...ur killing CP 110 noobs. That's it man.
You say you won a 500k dueling tourney on Xbox? Was it your trading guild that hosted it?
I suspect overall skill cap on consoles (and also latency) is worse compared to PCEdited by Ashamray on January 18, 2018 12:41PMBoadrig, EU PC
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Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Roflmao...soul assault and magplar execute on you bar is not "good night"...ESPECIALLY if you are running desert rose and HEAVY ARMOR. and what else did you say? You run engine guardian? Yeh man...ur killing CP 110 noobs. That's it man.
You say you won a 500k dueling tourney on Xbox? Was it your trading guild that hosted it?
I suspect overall skill cap on consoles (and also latency) is worse compared to PC
Latency is worse. Skill cap is not. There are good players on all platforms.
He wouldn't kill any decent PvP player with that combo.0 -
Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭This game is built on certain classes being counters to other classes.
To me it goes like this:
1. Stamblade hard counters Stam Warden
2. Stam Warden hard counters mag nb
3. Mag nb hard counters Stam Templar
4. Stam Templar hard counters mag DK
5. Mag DK hard counters stamblade
Full circle. Every class has a class / spec / skill line that it is strong against and another that it’s vulnerable to. No exceptions. Mag sorc is very vulnerable to stamdens and stam DKs and, to a lesser extend, mag DKs, but mag sorc is strong against Stam DK, stamplar, and mag warden.
Some classes are less vulnerable than others. For instance, Stam Warden is weak to stamblade, but not much else. Meanwhile, stamplar can be countered by mag nb, Stam sorc, and mag warden.
I say all this to say that you’ll always find a build or class OP when looking at it from the perspective of one class... but in reality, something is really only OP if it’s strong against ALL builds. For example, a stamden has weaknesses and counters, but it has less weaknesses atm than any other build, and is sill strong against many builds, so in that sense it is OP.
So please don’t call for a nerf because it’s strong against one class. Every class is strong against at least one class. Call for a nerf if it’s strong against ALL classes.
I disagree with Stamden being strong against most classes. They are very vulnerable to any class that isn't primarily ranged, MagDKs and all Stam classes, primarily, but they are also vulnerable to any class that defiles (NB and Templar). NBs have the ability to fear them, which makes stacking SubT incredibly difficult. Templars are able to copy direct damage and heal from it, so they have arguably the best antiwarden skill in the game. They also defile. DKs fight in close range, so they are a fair match for any warden. So really the only classes where warden has the advantage is sorcs and other wardens.
Stamplar isn't really vulnerable to anyone but NBs and maybe Sorcs due to better resource management and the ability to outburst their healing. It's also the only class currently where both Stam and Magicka are currently top 4 (along with Stamblade, top Stam class, and MagSorc, top mag Class).
It's laughable to argue that Stamden has less weaknesses than the rest, because Mag Sorc has been almost unkillable by most classes since 1.6 at the very least. Templar needs a slight nerf to its healing passives, Sorc needs a massive cost increase, and Stamblade needs less sustain. Stam Sorc, Mag DK, both Wardens, and Magblade are all pretty balanced currently for PVP. Only Stam DK needs a significant buff in PVP, and maybe Stam Sorc as well.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »This game is built on certain classes being counters to other classes.
To me it goes like this:
1. Stamblade hard counters Stam Warden
2. Stam Warden hard counters mag nb
3. Mag nb hard counters Stam Templar
4. Stam Templar hard counters mag DK
5. Mag DK hard counters stamblade
Full circle. Every class has a class / spec / skill line that it is strong against and another that it’s vulnerable to. No exceptions. Mag sorc is very vulnerable to stamdens and stam DKs and, to a lesser extend, mag DKs, but mag sorc is strong against Stam DK, stamplar, and mag warden.
Some classes are less vulnerable than others. For instance, Stam Warden is weak to stamblade, but not much else. Meanwhile, stamplar can be countered by mag nb, Stam sorc, and mag warden.
I say all this to say that you’ll always find a build or class OP when looking at it from the perspective of one class... but in reality, something is really only OP if it’s strong against ALL builds. For example, a stamden has weaknesses and counters, but it has less weaknesses atm than any other build, and is sill strong against many builds, so in that sense it is OP.
So please don’t call for a nerf because it’s strong against one class. Every class is strong against at least one class. Call for a nerf if it’s strong against ALL classes.
I disagree with Stamden being strong against most classes. They are very vulnerable to any class that isn't primarily ranged, MagDKs and all Stam classes, primarily, but they are also vulnerable to any class that defiles (NB and Templar). NBs have the ability to fear them, which makes stacking SubT incredibly difficult. Templars are able to copy direct damage and heal from it, so they have arguably the best antiwarden skill in the game. They also defile. DKs fight in close range, so they are a fair match for any warden. So really the only classes where warden has the advantage is sorcs and other wardens.
Stamplar isn't really vulnerable to anyone but NBs and maybe Sorcs due to better resource management and the ability to outburst their healing. It's also the only class currently where both Stam and Magicka are currently top 4 (along with Stamblade, top Stam class, and MagSorc, top mag Class).
It's laughable to argue that Stamden has less weaknesses than the rest, because Mag Sorc has been almost unkillable by most classes since 1.6 at the very least. Templar needs a slight nerf to its healing passives, Sorc needs a massive cost increase, and Stamblade needs less sustain. Stam Sorc, Mag DK, both Wardens, and Magblade are all pretty balanced currently for PVP. Only Stam DK needs a significant buff in PVP, and maybe Stam Sorc as well.
So much wrong with this post. All seems to stem from not thinking Stam Warden is the most powerful PvP class. Probably an entire tier above mg DK, stamblade, Stamplar not far behind them would be magsorc and mag blade and magplar with then Stam Sorc and Stam DK at the bottom. One exception would be full healer Templars but not in their own.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Maybe. But not nearly as bad as the warden getting defiled by dark flare.Edited by technohic on January 18, 2018 8:11PM0 -
Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭Maybe. But not nearly as bad as the warden getting defiled by dark flare.
Guess I'm Mr Potato Head too then. Templar's the only class I don't play much, probably like Warden and DK for you, so naturally I struggle most against them. I have far more trouble with TEmplars and STamblades, but the only classes that are super easy to kill are stamdk and sorc as a warden. Every class is easy to kill as a stamblade though.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »Maybe. But not nearly as bad as the warden getting defiled by dark flare.
Guess I'm Mr Potato Head too then. Templar's the only class I don't play much, probably like Warden and DK for you, so naturally I struggle most against them. I have far more trouble with TEmplars and STamblades, but the only classes that are super easy to kill are stamdk and sorc as a warden. Every class is easy to kill as a stamblade though.
Well it is true that the classes you know are easier to beat, and I probably should play a Warden and DK (more. Have DK but needs work) I see a lot from cloak.
I run magblade mostly lately so if I see a Warden, I disengage and watch. I’ve seen a lot from that view and a Stam Warden is what I’ve seen demolish everyone.
Mag DK I also disengage and it might be Part biases as most my skills are reflectable unless I swap to my melee loadout. They do quite well as well but I do see Templars ( even my own) give them trouble if their extended ritual is used right but I haven’t seen the Templars threaten the DKs much as they are still tanky. This is why I’m not for nerfing Templars purge. They’re slow and in reality this would just be a buff for DKs more than anything; and DKs in general don’t need it. Just stam variants. From a PvP point of view.
As for Stamblade; they are good and in that magDK tier but they do not have that tank and spank ability. A decent burst combo from anyone nearby and they abandon their kill or die. I just don’t find ganking as powerful as being able to just go head on in the bigger picture. Winds up being an annoyance as an ally then just rezes their victim and nothing is really lost.0 -
KingExecration✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »Bro. Why would you ever need to nerf purge? A single light attack is able to put 5-6 debuffs on a target. I could never purge enough to keep everything off me with out draining my self of magica and dieing.
Run desert rose with atro mundus in heavy armor 1h and shield. You can hold block for about 10-13 seconds non stop until getting low on stam. Then literally 1 heavy attack with snb and you got full stam to block permanently for another 10-13 sec. i am not joking here in a 1v1 situation you are unkillable AND you if you run 5 soulshrine heavy with it you dish out great damage.
Also run engine guardian skoria malubeth shadowrend alot can work with it.
Purifying light - vampires bane - soul assault - jabs if needed - jesus beam - Good night
1) one heavy attack will bring you to 3-4k stam. Maybe 5k if you're running a ton of CP for it.
2) the burst combo you mentioned won't kill a competent PvP player 1v1. Maybe Xv1 but never 1v1. Soul Assault is the Xv1 ulti of choice.
3) please L2P magplar before spewing ignorance on the forums.
Lol i would destroy you with my magplar i beat the best players on xbox na and won a 500k duel tourney not even a month ago i know what im doin
With soul assault? What were you fighting nothing but stamblades and you just waited until you got ult to win? I'm convinced the people in the tourney wasn't competent of what class they were playing lmao0 -
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✭Increase the cost by 20%. It's seriously ridiculous they can cast repeatedly and sustain perfectly fine.... tbh0 -
Ohhgrizyyy✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »They can cleanse up to 5-6 negatives. How bout just cut that number to 3? Simple and stam/magdk could actually stand a chance against magplars you know...they can spam it anyway just make them hve to actually spam it if they have multiple dots. Hell i would be happy with it cleansing 2 instead of 5
Based purely off your name I assume you chose Mag dk for that reason. You counter tf out of them. You counter any Stam class basically. Quit cryingPlaying on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750
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