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Faustina Curio, the Achievement Mediator carries the old Gold Designs?!?! FOR LESS?!?!?!?!
Avidspark
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So the new chick at Rolis...has the old gold designs that he stops carrying....for LESS WRITS? How is that making any sense at all? Is it simply because you need an achievement to buy them?
Still should be at least the same amount, if not more. Otherwise, why even bother?
Still should be at least the same amount, if not more. Otherwise, why even bother?
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WhiteCoatSyndrome✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Still should be at least the same amount, if not more. Otherwise, why even bother?
I think the idea is supply and demand. Buy the designs when they first come out, and they cost more, but fewer people will have them so you can sell the resulting furniture for more. And when they've been switched out after six months more people will have gotten them by then.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Still should be at least the same amount, if not more. Otherwise, why even bother?
I think the idea is supply and demand. Buy the designs when they first come out, and they cost more, but fewer people will have them so you can sell the resulting furniture for more. And when they've been switched out after six months more people will have gotten them by then.
Well, that seems a crap decision to me, as one of the perks of Rolis discontinuing a design is, its value went up after it was gone from his stocks...now, the value will go down, considerably.
Bad idea.Edited by Avidspark on January 10, 2018 11:41AM'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Still should be at least the same amount, if not more. Otherwise, why even bother?
I think the idea is supply and demand. Buy the designs when they first come out, and they cost more, but fewer people will have them so you can sell the resulting furniture for more. And when they've been switched out after six months more people will have gotten them by then.
Well, that seems a crap decision to me, as one of the perks of Rolis discontinuing a design is, its value went up after it was gone from his stocks...now, the value will go down, considerably.
Bad idea.
They could have kept the same cost as before (125 vouchers), but it was NOT a bad idea to return these recipes. Removing recipes for cosmetic items from the game, solely so that some people can rake in huge profits from selling recipes or items no longer available is a BAD idea.
When recipes are constantly available, it's fair for everyone to buy them and make their own stuff, and those who do not want to participate in the crafting aspect of the game can still buy the items off of someone else. As it should be.
Literally the only ones hurt by this are those who have hoarded a large amount of these recipes and try to sell them off for huge profits, and the only thing I can say to that is pffffffffffff.
Edited by Carbonised on January 10, 2018 11:49AM20 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭something I haven't tested (and maybe I should). do you need an achievement to learn them? or only to buy them?dirty worthless casual.
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✭They're tied to an achievement, that's why.PC/DC/NAserver
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ok, so hopped into pts, to test. they are not bop and they do not require achievement to learn. however, the achievement they require to buy is nothing to sneeze at. you have to have turned in 100 master writs to be able to buy them from a new vendor. I think.. that's fair exchange for slightly reduced voucher cost.dirty worthless casual.
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✭✭ok, so hopped into pts, to test. they are not bop and they do not require achievement to learn. however, the achievement they require to buy is nothing to sneeze at. you have to have turned in 100 master writs to be able to buy them from a new vendor. I think.. that's fair exchange for slightly reduced voucher cost.
I do think that's fair for the short term, but once crafters get that achievement, they'll be able to buy the recipes for less. I guess if ZOS aren't planning to return all of the old recipes, then it's better to buy on Rolis rather than wait to see if they show up on Faustina at a reduced cost.
So, definitely a steep point of entry, but once in, they're cheaper. Plus, after 100 writ turn-ins, you should have quite a few vouchers to spend on cheaper recipes.
I'm glad that the old recipes are returning (esp. for those that missed them), but kinda miffed (only slightly) that they're cheaper. Just another perk/advantage for new players that this update is filled with. That said, I think I might actually pick up the Orc ones I passed on earlier, if the cheaper price is cheap enough.0 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭To be honest, this is more about ZoS, and their consistent INCONSISTENCY,
Edited by Avidspark on January 11, 2018 9:16PM'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah I'm a little put off by the fact that they cost less now. That kind of incentivizes putting everything off, since most achievements are easy to come by anyway.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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✭✭✭✭✭To be honest, this is more about ZoS, and their consistent INCONSISTENCY,
Is the goal to give more players access to Morrowind furnishing plans ... or is the goal to keep @Avidspark’s pockets full?
Considering the number of forum threads about this issue, I’m going with choice #1.
But, most players will adapt to the change. New content offers new opportunities for sales ...Edited by Taleof2Cities on January 11, 2018 10:37PM4 -
Carbonised✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Funnily enough, within a day after the PTS was up, guild traders were flooded with the old gold recipes for modest prices. I'm guessing quite a few people had hoarded them before they vanished, in hopes of a fat profit. Well that ain't gonna happen no more.0 -
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✭The old gold recipes have been reduced from 125 writ vouchers each to 100 writ vouchers each?
Eh. That's not much of a difference. 80% of the original price. I'm okay with it. Especially if you need to have done 100 Master Writs in order to purchase from Faustina at all. It will help some players catch up.Guildmaster of the UESP Guild on the North American PC/Mac Server 2350+ CP & also found on the European PC/Mac Server 1700+ CP
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✭✭✭✭✭This is a good thing. It's a catch-up mechanism. Same reason why CP becomes cheaper to earn each time the cap increases and why there's a huge cost penalty for people above the cap.
Stop looking at it from your own selfish perspective.
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