RT_Frank wrote: »

Zordrage wrote: »

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

I honestly don't understand why there is an obsession with necromancers. You want a character that their main power is to raise the dead to fight for you. But how powerful could these undead be if you just killed them without using your main power?

I'm really being serious. Sorcerers already summon Daedra, so a Necromancer will summon undead out of nowhere? To me, that is too similar.

I mean choyz is gud, moar choyz is gudder but a necromancer is not something that would get me throwing my money at a new "chapter".

People that are againts necros have litle imagination...

as a person who played MANY and i mean MAAAAAAANY MMOs.. there is waaay more to necros then just minions....

yes minion sis one of the parts of the class.... BUT...

just check the Necromancers in GW2 or Rift or the warlock and Death Knight in WoW or Necromancer in Diablo 3 just a few examples....
there is 13141551 ways and method to make a dark necrotic Mage/caster class...

you people need to stop only seeing minions and skeletons when we talk about NECROMANCERS...

and Eso lacks some real Dark caster/Mage class..... NB does not count too heavy build around stealth and melee assasinations... more of a dark assassin then a Mage even as a magnb...

also necromancer is a BIG part of the Eso world would be silly to not include them as a full fledged class in the game.

But this isn't GW2 or WoW...

This is ESO and in ESO necromancers are the dark mage summoners of the dead. People who want necros want that archetype bcuz it's already in the game in the form of NPCs.

Also, ESO lacks any dark caster class? Have you played a sorc? They literally have a skill line called dark magic and another called daedric summoning...

Personally, this is one reason why I don't want a necro class but if it comes then I'll be interested in seeing how a stam necro would be...

you call the dark Magic line sorc uses... Dark ? pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff hahahahaha..... its super far from it it bassicaly have like 0 dark in it really just in name lol

also you had to pull the this isnt that or this game card ? you know what Examples mean right ?
also you do know that the majority of the mmos out there would be way better games if they would copy a few good parts/ideas of other mmos right ? just saying...

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

I honestly don't understand why there is an obsession with necromancers. You want a character that their main power is to raise the dead to fight for you. But how powerful could these undead be if you just killed them without using your main power?

I'm really being serious. Sorcerers already summon Daedra, so a Necromancer will summon undead out of nowhere? To me, that is too similar.

I mean choyz is gud, moar choyz is gudder but a necromancer is not something that would get me throwing my money at a new "chapter".

SI in Oblivion had an necromancy spell. It was fun and looked awesome on paper.
Downside that anybody killed by some of your minions would be permanently hostile to killer.
This was an downer but fit Oblivion system, now an goblin warlord could be turned with command creature.
Now if the other goblins hit him 5 times or something he would become permanently hostile to goblin, think normal dungeon mini boss against trash. They would still be hostile to you then spell timed out
More fun, and yes Khajiit has had it hard lately and need an buff.

I hope it sets on Elsewyr.

Everytime I see this necromancer nonsense, I shake my head.

This is Elder Scrolls. Necromancy has always been treated as a forbidden evil in the series. Necromancers are always the antagonists. The ESO main quest has you combating a necromancer cult.

A necromancer class would never work in ESO. Stop asking for this nonsense.

id loooove a new class and if not that ag least give us some new weapon / skill lines with actual combat skills..... bard stuff, necromancy, 1h+spell, crossbows.....so much more stuff to do

code65536 wrote: »

Everytime I see this necromancer nonsense, I shake my head.

This is Elder Scrolls. Necromancy has always been treated as a forbidden evil in the series. Necromancers are always the antagonists. The ESO main quest has you combating a necromancer cult.

A necromancer class would never work in ESO. Stop asking for this nonsense.

Yeah! Totally!

I mean, in TES III, necromancy is absolutely forbidden by the Tribunal...and the Nerevarine has to steal a skull for a necromancer in order to get plot relevant information as part of the main quest.

In TES IV, the Mages Guild has forbidden necromancy in Cyrodiil and is fighting to the death against Mannimarco's Worm Cult! Necromancers are totally evil! ... except there's quite a few spells that let the Hero of Kvatch summon a whole bunch of undead minions. Oh, and use black soul gems. Oops.

In TES V, there's a whole bunch of necromancers to kill around Skyrim. Those dudes and dudettes are like cockroaches, man!...and there's a whole bunch of "Conjure/Reanimate my undead minion to "Carry my burdens" spells. BTW, if you ever try to reanimate a dragon skeleton? Stand back, its pretty awesome.

In ESO, the villains are necromancers at every turn. Mannimarco, the Worm Cult, the Bloodthorn Cult, the Reachmen, the Greenshade questline, the Rivenspire questline. I mean, ESO is just crawling with necromancer villains...and the Vestige has to create a flesh atronach in the main quest, collect hearts for necromancy in the Rift, has multiple opportunities to enslave spirit armies, every example of Dunmer/Chimer ancestor worship is like "technically not necromancy...technically," and I'm sure I'm missing a few because I distinctly remember feeling like I keep running into necromancy an awful lot even as a "hero."

At this point, I probably shouldn't mention that one of the entirely canon endings of TES II: Daggerfall lets you side with Mannimarco (all endings are canon 'cause dragonbreak), should I?

There's, uh, absolutely no support in any of the Elder Scrolls for player characters to be necromancers. None at all!


(Personally, I have little to no interest in playing a necromancer since I'm of the opinion that this game already has a lot of necromancy-related content. But necromancy of some form or another has been available in most Elder Scrolls games and so I have no problem with it being added to the game for lore reasons.)

VaranisArano wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Everytime I see this necromancer nonsense, I shake my head.

This is Elder Scrolls. Necromancy has always been treated as a forbidden evil in the series. Necromancers are always the antagonists. The ESO main quest has you combating a necromancer cult.

A necromancer class would never work in ESO. Stop asking for this nonsense.

Yeah! Totally!

I mean, in TES III, necromancy is absolutely forbidden by the Tribunal...and the Nerevarine has to steal a skull for a necromancer in order to get plot relevant information as part of the main quest.

In TES IV, the Mages Guild has forbidden necromancy in Cyrodiil and is fighting to the death against Mannimarco's Worm Cult! Necromancers are totally evil! ... except there's quite a few spells that let the Hero of Kvatch summon a whole bunch of undead minions. Oh, and use black soul gems. Oops.

In TES V, there's a whole bunch of necromancers to kill around Skyrim. Those dudes and dudettes are like cockroaches, man!...and there's a whole bunch of "Conjure/Reanimate my undead minion to "Carry my burdens" spells. BTW, if you ever try to reanimate a dragon skeleton? Stand back, its pretty awesome.

In ESO, the villains are necromancers at every turn. Mannimarco, the Worm Cult, the Bloodthorn Cult, the Reachmen, the Greenshade questline, the Rivenspire questline. I mean, ESO is just crawling with necromancer villains...and the Vestige has to create a flesh atronach in the main quest, collect hearts for necromancy in the Rift, has multiple opportunities to enslave spirit armies, every example of Dunmer/Chimer ancestor worship is like "technically not necromancy...technically," and I'm sure I'm missing a few because I distinctly remember feeling like I keep running into necromancy an awful lot even as a "hero."

At this point, I probably shouldn't mention that one of the entirely canon endings of TES II: Daggerfall lets you side with Mannimarco (all endings are canon 'cause dragonbreak), should I?

There's, uh, absolutely no support in any of the Elder Scrolls for player characters to be necromancers. None at all!


(Personally, I have little to no interest in playing a necromancer since I'm of the opinion that this game already has a lot of necromancy-related content. But necromancy of some form or another has been available in most Elder Scrolls games and so I have no problem with it being added to the game for lore reasons.)

could say the same about the dark brotherhood tough, they aren't exactly looked upon as nice people either by the rest of the world....

EvilAutoTech wrote: »

I honestly don't understand why there is an obsession with necromancers. You want a character that their main power is to raise the dead to fight for you. But how powerful could these undead be if you just killed them without using your main power?

Because it's fun and different, that's why. Some of us just play to have fun, and want more options.

Honestly, i hope not. Pace of content in this game is actually too fast for me. I'd prefer things like lag in vMA to be sorted etc first

I hope we get a new weapon skill line, but I could do without another class already.

No to new classes

It's not about "hate" bro.
New class are not content it's only 3 new skill lines specific for that class, you got one with Morrowind, Warden and it's based around "summoning".
They can add new different one but after some time not next year. Simple.

Necromancy is forbidden in tamriel since reman empire