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How "fossilize" became OP

  • DemonDruaga
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    You need to break free out of a hard stun?
    Can't just go afk making a coffee or two till the low dot pressure frees you from the stun?
    Get some stamina management for gods sake

    By the way,is this a troll thread?
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  • Girl_Number8
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    Ihatenightblades I guess you will be changing your forum name to Ihatemagicdks or Ihatemagicdragonknights :smiley:
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on December 8, 2017 9:46AM
  • BohnT
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Also, no idea why people are saying that NB is overpowered. They aren't. Good damage+mobility, but squishy asf. And incap is dodgeable, blockable, and ST. Leap is much stronger.

    Because a NB can just put on heavy armor and have almost exactly the same amount of damage+mobility plus being the only class with access to major evasion with heavy armor (blur) and that incap is a extreme spammable with a ton of extra effects on cast; gap closer, knockdown, stun, reduce damage of your target, increase your own damage, and on top of it a healing reduction effect on your target. All for 75 ult, and if they are wearing bloodspawn = lulz


    I use this setup on my stamblade, absolutely wrecks. Especially if I use the 2h skill that gives immunity to all roots. It makes it a steamroll

    Not a gapcloser, and knock down is a kind of stun. Just listing what they have doesn't mean they are OP. OP is generally if they have many strengths with little sacrifice/counters. (I.e. procs) NB is probably the most balanced class with strong damage and mobility with their own flare/counters.

    As for incap, ST, blockable, dodgable and hits about as hard as leap. 75 ult is an OK cost, 50 was spammable tier.

    With the difference that stamnb has better ulti gain and incap applies the most powerful offensive debuffs for 6 seconds while ignoring dodge and blockable isn't something you have to deal with with access to a cc that goes through block a class can't say a skill is weak because it's blockable.
    NB isn't balanced because only bad nbs die in a 1v1 in open field. Just disengage at will and then wait for incap/fear to bug out and kill your opponent while they can't cc break.
    NB are unbalanced, everytime i hop on my stamnb i feel dirty for killing my opponent with such cheesy mechanics while leaving them no chance when they can't outnumber me 4:1
  • ZOS_MattL
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    Hey there,
    We had to remove several posts for baiting. Keep the discussion on topic and in line with our Community Rules or else we may need to close this thread.
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  • NyassaV
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    The last thing they needed was a CC buff. They already have the best CC kit that synergies well with the rest of the class skills
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Also, no idea why people are saying that NB is overpowered. They aren't. Good damage+mobility, but squishy asf. And incap is dodgeable, blockable, and ST. Leap is much stronger.

    Because a NB can just put on heavy armor and have almost exactly the same amount of damage+mobility plus being the only class with access to major evasion with heavy armor (blur) and that incap is a extreme spammable with a ton of extra effects on cast; gap closer, knockdown, stun, reduce damage of your target, increase your own damage, and on top of it a healing reduction effect on your target. All for 75 ult, and if they are wearing bloodspawn = lulz


    I use this setup on my stamblade, absolutely wrecks. Especially if I use the 2h skill that gives immunity to all roots. It makes it a steamroll

    I don't believe people who can't name skills... but heavy nb is doing just fine. Not op, but with more cloaks available than in medium, a skilled player can use that to wreck those who can't counter cloak. That makes them SEEM op.

    That's ridiculous. I know close to what every skill in the game does, including their morphs. Damn if I can remember all their names.
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Toast_STS wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Izaki wrote: »
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    Huh, hadn't noticed how OP they were, probably because no one ever plays them

    Please OP, continue on about how the class is broken OP, you might get some metamancers to switch off of Stam Warden, and PVP will become more bearable.

    On my Stamblade, I'd take a Stam Warden over a Mag DK any time. Between fighting 2 Dizzy Swing spammers who probably won't even get 2 hits off on me and fighting 2 root spammers that put DoTs on you and hit you with undodgeable whips... Yeah the choice is made pretty quickly.

    Whips are dodgeable so.....what were you lying again?

    Power lash is undodgeable, normal whip is dodgeable

    And guess HOW the only way to proc power lash is by FIRST

    -have enemy off balance

    -AND you have to first cast flame lash during off-balance to PROC power lash the SECOND cast with an internal cooldown of 5 seconds to proc the off-balance effect


    which you rightly damn well know.

    If true, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say charged affects shattering rocks or flame lash. There are some players that can chain power lash procs...

    It's true you're free to test and record it or just youtube the skill.

    It's impossble to chain power lash procs, you have to deal with the internal cooldown of the off balance cooldown on Power Lash

    Did they fix this?

    https://youtu.be/jdej7QKDsLA


    The player is using lightning field to literally chain the procs, but other threads say lightning enchants or shattering rocks in between also work.

    Edit: This thread explains the different ways to make this work. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/326000/pvp-mdk-whip-its-build

    Lol that's my clip. It still works. I been using it in under 50 battlegrounds but it is pretty much useless in CP environments, mainly because the other players are more skilled. Still get some crazy heals off it though because the heals will stack from each power lash. Also, gets some great sustain because power lash costs 0 magicka. I made a toon specifically for it

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    The other poster mentioned youtube, so I searched youtube, and your video popped up first :smiley:

    How about the other ways? How well does lightning enchant, shattering rocks-lash weaving, etc., work in overland?

    I get chain whipped without standing in lightning field, and tend to play mobile toons, so there has to be some other way through the door.

    Edit: chain lashed.
    Edited by Wreuntzylla on December 8, 2017 7:18PM
  • Ragnarock41
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    Real question you should ask is : why zos gave sorcs a 28m ranged fossilize.

    But instead you ask for a dk nerf anyways. Classic.
  • KanedaSyndrome
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    ZOS_MattL wrote: »
    Hey there,
    We had to remove several posts for baiting. Keep the discussion on topic and in line with our Community Rules or else we may need to close this thread.

    Seems the only ZOS posts lately is them telling how they had to remove posts.
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    ZOS_MattL wrote: »
    Hey there,
    We had to remove several posts for baiting. Keep the discussion on topic and in line with our Community Rules or else we may need to close this thread.

    Seems the only ZOS posts lately is them telling how they had to remove posts.

    Lately?

    More like ever...
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    ZOS_MattL wrote: »
    Hey there,
    We had to remove several posts for baiting. Keep the discussion on topic and in line with our Community Rules or else we may need to close this thread.

    Seems the only ZOS posts lately is them telling how they had to remove posts.

    Lately?

    More like ever...

    Ha! You remember the time ZoS had the devs actively post on the forums? I think the forum posters made them feel so welcome, it lasted maybe, what, a week?
  • Waffennacht
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    ZOS_MattL wrote: »
    Hey there,
    We had to remove several posts for baiting. Keep the discussion on topic and in line with our Community Rules or else we may need to close this thread.

    Seems the only ZOS posts lately is them telling how they had to remove posts.

    Lately?

    More like ever...

    Ha! You remember the time ZoS had the devs actively post on the forums? I think the forum posters made them feel so welcome, it lasted maybe, what, a week?

    I was pissed that so many people used wrobel's words against him, made darn sure he wouldn't post again
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    Ihatenightblades I guess you will be changing your forum name to Ihatemagicdks or Ihatemagicdragonknights :smiley:


    Lol more like iHateFossilize xD
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