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what lvl should I be to clear Veteran Maelstrom Arena?
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Jim_Pipp✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have heard of people doing it at CP 300, but they must be some of the best players.
It is an incredibly difficult bit of content and many people at cp690+ don't complete vma.
Normal difficulty is comparatively easy and can be done at any level#1 tip (Re)check your graphics settings periodically - especially resolution.3 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Magicka NB is one of the easier builds for vMA. Stamina NB will be more difficult. That having been said, your own personal comfort and familiarity with a class is more important, and if you are much more comfortable on a stamina NB than magicka NB, then stamina may be easier.
As for level, that's hard to say. You should definitely wait for CP160 so that the weapons that you get aren't junk. For first-timers, vMA is going to be hard, even if you have the capped 690 CP. There is a lot to learn and a lot to get used to. And because there is a lot get used to, having low CP would make that initial learning process harder than it already is.
For a first-timer, I would recommend at least 300 CP--the more the better. But it is beatable at low CP levels--I completed it at around CP 200 on a new account. But I also had almost 2 year's worth of vMA experience. For someone who's learning, though, low CP is going to make the learning process much more frustrating, hence my recommendation of at least 300, ideally 4-500 or more.Edited by code65536 on November 17, 2017 8:30AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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INHUMANENATION✭✭✭MagNb like mentioned above is a lot easier. I recommend 330+. Although with save points Im sure its a bit easier now for a first complete. Vma is much more about knowing the mechanics vs Cp or even ones build. Round 5 stage 4 or the boss round on either 5 or 7 is all but impossible if you do not have some sort of strategy. Do no expect to ever be able to go in there and one shot things, even at max cp. Get in looks and think about what youre trying to do. Watching a video makes life much easier but also robs you of the experience first hand.
Normal MA does little to prepare you for VMA passed getting an understanding of mechanics. While there is little reward for completing it multiple times it does make you more comfortable in there.
Tamrielfoundry.com/ youtube have a lot of resources at ones disposal for 330 cp builds you can use to give you a better head start as builds do play a big role in success. I would think its possible also with 15k dps but im not certain.
Hope this helps.
(edit: simply trying one round a day will really help reduce ur frustration while at the same time allow you to progress as you advance in cp.)Edited by INHUMANENATION on November 17, 2017 8:48AM2 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭vMA is more about mechanics than character strength. If you're a good player and know the mechanics and spawns of the arena then C160+ should be fine.
Remember that people were doing it at C160 pre-nerfs. Whilst it will be a lot easier especially for the average player at high levels it's not restricted to them alone.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."2 -
mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭there is video with stamplar (lol) with 11K hp (lol) running vMA deathless (lol). So it's better to know arena mechanics rather than CP level.
And nice guide here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/233356/joys-now-updated-morrowind-guide-to-beating-maelstrom-arena/p1Edited by mocap on November 17, 2017 8:58AM2 -
nnargun✭✭✭✭I'm at CP 295 now and at the boss of stage 7 and I'm certainly not the best player out there. I will get past this stage tonight since I just learned about the mender/shield mechanic and I was close to beating it before already. Just ran out of gold. I intend to beat the whole thing at least once during the Orsinium days.
ps.: I was CP 400 on XBO before and couldn't even get past Seth's Balkony. That was using a StamBlade whereas I play the much easier MagSorc now.Edited by nnargun on November 17, 2017 9:04AM[PC EU][GERMAN][ENGLISH][730~ CP]
Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
Draxyl - Argonian - Warden2 -
lardvader✭✭✭✭✭I've seen CP300 players with flawless but might be players like code65536 with lots of experience on their second account.
However CP300 seems like a good place to start but more the merrier. I was way past CP cap when I did my first clear and that is not necessary.CP 1200+ PC EU EP2 -
Saint_Bud✭✭✭✭Lv50 char and about Cp 300+ for the veteran mode. You can try it with less cp, but it will be very hard. You also need a good build and a lot of motivation, because it will not easy at the beginn.PVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
PVE Lord Victarion mDK : dro'm-Athra-Destroyer pre Morrowind retired for crafting
PVE Ramsay-Bolton magicka NB: Voice of Reason Clockwork City Patch retired
VAA hm/ VHRC hm/ VSO hm/ VMOL hm/ VHOF hm/ VAS hm clear
Stop playing PVE because its boring, content not disigned for melee players and class balance and sustain is ***1 -
Danteanz✭✭wow. it's even hard for cp 690 ?
thx for answering me guys. it's helpful !
I'm cp210 anyways. I suppose I should pass this event lolEdited by Danteanz on November 17, 2017 9:16AM0 -
nnargun✭✭✭✭Lv50 char and about Cp 300+ for the veteran mode. You can try it with less cp, but it will be very hard. You also need a good build and a lot of motivation, because it will not easy at the beginn.
Yep. Bring motivation and gold. You will have to buy tons of soul gems and potions and repair your gear. I used like 300-400 gems and about the same number of potions so far.Edited by nnargun on November 17, 2017 9:15AM[PC EU][GERMAN][ENGLISH][730~ CP]
Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
Draxyl - Argonian - Warden1 -
ajcorbell✭✭✭I completed it at cp160 on PC, but had also done it on PS4. Between your two options, take the mag nb route.0 -
supaskrub✭✭✭✭✭wow. it's even hard for cp 690 ?
thx for answering me guys. it's helpful !
Yes the first time it is, tbh whatever level you are its a demoralising experience the first time and the struggle is real, most people just dread going back in and they take weeks to complete unless they are masochistic.. but the first time you send Voriak Solkyn down to his knees with that final spectral explosion and finish him off by throwing everything you have at him and see the chest spawn in the middle of the arena the sense of achievement is unsurpassed and you will want to jump straight back in..5 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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As I said the challenge is in the player skill and mechanics. You'll be fine with CP210 if you have a good understanding of the game (something which can be learnt by anyone).wow. it's even hard for cp 690 ?
thx for answering me guys. it's helpful !
I'm cp210 anyways. I suppose I should pass this event lol
Read build guides for your class, learn basic mechanics, get entry level crafted gear (if you don't have best in slot already), read a guide, watch some videos, go and try it. I went through 400+ soul gems on my first run, I still can't do it deathless but every time I run it I get better as I learn more spawns.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
nnargun✭✭✭✭wow. it's even hard for cp 690 ?
thx for answering me guys. it's helpful !
I'm cp210 anyways. I suppose I should pass this event lol
Yeah I wouldn't try to force it now for the double drops. Take your time and maybe get another 100 CP before. Also helps to have Undaunted leveled and gold weapons equipped.[PC EU][GERMAN][ENGLISH][730~ CP]
Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
Draxyl - Argonian - Warden0 -
RANKK7✭✭✭✭✭
✭First thing needed is time, then will, then patience, then some gold for repair, last is skills.
As others said get that amount of at least 300CP to try out, though I would suggest if you feel you are wasting too much time in there or gold or the will overall weakened, take a break and get back later.
I got so pissed first time on last boss I re-entered after months, that time though I was prepared to waste some time on that guy to learn every move in there and that's been crucial to beat it, to know at heart everything was going to happen.
Good luck!lll
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MakoFore✭✭✭✭✭
✭cp300 is a good start, i didnt feel like i could really get thru it til cp400- where i wasnt getting one shot by stupid *** , or dying too easily to elemental damage, cp 400 is where u can react to the damage- heal up, and react, cp300 or so- ur just going to die and scratch ur head as to how .0 -
pdebie64b16_ESO✭✭✭wow. it's even hard for cp 690 ?
thx for answering me guys. it's helpful !
I'm cp210 anyways. I suppose I should pass this event lol
I spend months, hundreds of repair kits, soul gems, gold and frustration before my first clear, now after 20+ runs it isnt a cakewalk for me. Yesterday i did a run with for the first time under 10 deaths.
CP 690 Pet Sorc
On my Stamsorc iam still struggling with stage 2...1 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Did flawless on my sorc with 325cp using seducer and lich...
vMA is pointless if you are below 160cp. As you get weapon according to your character level. Magicka characters should have no problem clearing vMA with >300cp. For stamina melee characters I would go with 300cp only if you have some kind of knowledge of vMA and have full VO with another proper damage set.
You can do vMA on a magblade on level 15 just spamming swallow soul...PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq0 -
Saint_Bud✭✭✭✭You can start trying the arena also with 200cp. The arena saves your position as long you dont delate the quest. For the weapons only reall needet is the bow, staffes are good but there are a lot options with out. And as long you not dicide to run trials on a high level it doesnt matter if you have the weapons.PVP Saint-Bud magicka Templar: AR 49
PVE Lord Victarion mDK : dro'm-Athra-Destroyer pre Morrowind retired for crafting
PVE Ramsay-Bolton magicka NB: Voice of Reason Clockwork City Patch retired
VAA hm/ VHRC hm/ VSO hm/ VMOL hm/ VHOF hm/ VAS hm clear
Stop playing PVE because its boring, content not disigned for melee players and class balance and sustain is ***0 -
nnargun✭✭✭✭You can start trying the arena also with 200cp. The arena saves your position as long you dont delate the quest. For the weapons only reall needet is the bow, staffes are good but there are a lot options with out. And as long you not dicide to run trials on a high level it doesnt matter if you have the weapons.
I wanna beat it for the sake of beating it and for the title. Also I think you do become a much better player by beating it even though people say no skill is needed. I disagree with that and actually think I've alkready grown a lot at this task.
If I get a lightning staff on top of this, perfect
[PC EU][GERMAN][ENGLISH][730~ CP]
Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
Draxyl - Argonian - Warden0 -
supaskrub✭✭✭✭✭wow. it's even hard for cp 690 ?
thx for answering me guys. it's helpful !
I'm cp210 anyways. I suppose I should pass this event lol
Yeah I wouldn't try to force it now for the double drops. Take your time and maybe get another 100 CP before. Also helps to have Undaunted leveled and gold weapons equipped.
This is a good point.... In the final round of stage 9 it was a real struggle for me and i had to take a long look at my build, in hindsight it was obvious I needed to level up alchemy just so i could get 3 skill points into "Medicinal Use" that extra few seconds of tick on health, mag and stam regen + no cooldown really helps when on the crystals, prior to levelling alchemy i could almost guarantee I would die due to low stamina which would either get me knocked off the ring into the arms of a flaming Deadroth or unable to dodge role Variaks aoe, get stunned and then whacked by a meteor.Edited by supaskrub on November 17, 2017 10:58AM1 -
nnargun✭✭✭✭So I beat stage 7 this morning. Couldn't play last night. Man, what a feeling. That was the hardest so far for me. Only because I tried interrupting the boss for many many tries though. Using the shields of the menders is much easier. Stage 8 was cake then.
Now I'm at Voriak and get him to crystal phase. Will beat him tomorrow.
Haven't had so much fun in a game for a long time. I can totally recommend trying with 300 CP. With a magsorc at least.[PC EU][GERMAN][ENGLISH][730~ CP]
Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
Draxyl - Argonian - Warden1 -
MaleAmazon✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you want to clear Maelstrom:
1. Find a guide to mechanics (I prefer written to videos). There are good ones, like the one in the link posted earlier. This is the most important part, since so much is going on that you might not be able to elucidate the mechanics yourself (lord knows if I´d ever realised myself that the ice stage add spawns come at boss HP thresholds...).
2. You need self sustain. DPS is less important but can not be ignored. This means a different approach than in a dungeon or trial.
3. Ranged damage is apparently much easier.1 -
MakeMeUhSamich✭✭✭✭✭MaleAmazon wrote: »If you want to clear Maelstrom:
1. Find a guide to mechanics (I prefer written to videos). There are good ones, like the one in the link posted earlier. This is the most important part, since so much is going on that you might not be able to elucidate the mechanics yourself (lord knows if I´d ever realised myself that the ice stage add spawns come at boss HP thresholds...).
2. You need self sustain. DPS is less important but can not be ignored. This means a different approach than in a dungeon or trial.
3. Ranged damage is apparently much easier.
Ranged INTERRUPTS made it much easier for me.0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lv50 char and about Cp 300+ for the veteran mode. You can try it with less cp, but it will be very hard. You also need a good build and a lot of motivation, because it will not easy at the beginn.
Yep. Bring motivation and gold. You will have to buy tons of soul gems and potions and repair your gear. I used like 300-400 gems and about the same number of potions so far.
If you have a fast horse, it's faster to rez at wayshrine and ride bck to the arena because the "ghost" time for using a soul gem is so long.
As for the OP, I just did a run last night at 300 CP and recorded it. I'll post a video of it soon. It wasn't easy but doable.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭U can compete at 300cp+- with good connection .
U may fail even u have full cp and gold gears , u cant swap the bar at right time , u cant shield and heal , it's not about player skills issue .
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nnargun✭✭✭✭
Oh really? That's interesting. I actually did that quite a few times when I ran out of gems. It feels much longer and tedious to me though.Joy_Division wrote: »Lv50 char and about Cp 300+ for the veteran mode. You can try it with less cp, but it will be very hard. You also need a good build and a lot of motivation, because it will not easy at the beginn.
Yep. Bring motivation and gold. You will have to buy tons of soul gems and potions and repair your gear. I used like 300-400 gems and about the same number of potions so far.
If you have a fast horse, it's faster to rez at wayshrine and ride bck to the arena because the "ghost" time for using a soul gem is so long.
As for the OP, I just did a run last night at 300 CP and recorded it. I'll post a video of it soon. It wasn't easy but doable.
Another question:
For how long does it save my progress within the same stage? Like when I leave for repair.[PC EU][GERMAN][ENGLISH][730~ CP]
Flawless Conquerer - vHoF HM - vAS+1 - vMoL - vCR
the Kuhn - Dunmer - MagNB
Samjuel-EL - Orc - StamNB
Son Hala - Altmer - MagSorc
Draxyl - Argonian - Warden0 -
ashl3y44✭✭I finished VMA around 280 cp. that being said it’s very difficult around this cp, and gets significantly easier around 400 cp. if you feel comfortable with your class your playing, then go for it. I have beaten it on all my classes now and it’s challenging but worth it660 High elf mag sorc, Argonian templar healer, & Dark elf mag Dk.0 -
MJallday✭✭✭✭✭
✭I finished VMA around 280 cp. that being said it’s very difficult around this cp, and gets significantly easier around 400 cp. if you feel comfortable with your class your playing, then go for it. I have beaten it on all my classes now and it’s challenging but worth it
I’ve only run normal once and tried on vet at cp430. Kept getting 1 shotted so I’m giving up until cp690 #stamplar #squishy
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