paulsimonps wrote: »I know its not any of the 2 you listed but the answer many will give is Sorcerer.
paulsimonps wrote: »I know its not any of the 2 you listed but the answer many will give is Sorcerer.
To be honest, any class but Warden is good. In my opinion templar is BiS when it comes to WW due to their passives. Sorc looks good on paper but templar outshines them by miles, especially with Pelinial builds.
paulsimonps wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »I know its not any of the 2 you listed but the answer many will give is Sorcerer.
To be honest, any class but Warden is good. In my opinion templar is BiS when it comes to WW due to their passives. Sorc looks good on paper but templar outshines them by miles, especially with Pelinial builds.
Hmmm could you elaborate? From what I've seen Sorcs gets far better passives while in WW form, what does templars have?
paulsimonps wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »I know its not any of the 2 you listed but the answer many will give is Sorcerer.
To be honest, any class but Warden is good. In my opinion templar is BiS when it comes to WW due to their passives. Sorc looks good on paper but templar outshines them by miles, especially with Pelinial builds.
Hmmm could you elaborate? From what I've seen Sorcs gets far better passives while in WW form, what does templars have?
Templar:
* Increases Weapon Damage by 6% and Spell Resistance by 2640.
* Reduces Magicka, Stamina and Ultimate ability costs by 4%
The extra weapon-damage is in my opinion more superior than the extra physical damage sorcs get from their passive. But it´s more of a preference I think depending on what build you´re using
Many people like to give a + for sorcs when it comes to the reduced ultimate cost, in my opinion reduced ultimate cost is not that good. If you want to play WW, your goal should be to stay WW as much as possible. Once you´ve transformed that passive is "wasted" (since WW can´t gain ultimate in WW-form, otherwise that passive might have been good).
Implosion looks good on paper for the sorcs, but you´ll have so much burst damage anyway on a WW that you´ll rarely proc it anyway (This comes from own experience with playing WW on a sorc). Sure it´s nice to have some RNG luck with implosion once in a while, but I find it to unreliable to be any useful. The extra weapon damage from templar passive is really useful on Pelinial builds for example.
This doesn´t mean sorcs are bad for WW, it´s more of a personal preference
paulsimonps wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »I know its not any of the 2 you listed but the answer many will give is Sorcerer.
To be honest, any class but Warden is good. In my opinion templar is BiS when it comes to WW due to their passives. Sorc looks good on paper but templar outshines them by miles, especially with Pelinial builds.
Hmmm could you elaborate? From what I've seen Sorcs gets far better passives while in WW form, what does templars have?
Templar:
* Increases Weapon Damage by 6% and Spell Resistance by 2640.
* Reduces Magicka, Stamina and Ultimate ability costs by 4%
The extra weapon-damage is in my opinion more superior than the extra physical damage sorcs get from their passive. But it´s more of a preference I think depending on what build you´re using
Many people like to give a + for sorcs when it comes to the reduced ultimate cost, in my opinion reduced ultimate cost is not that good. If you want to play WW, your goal should be to stay WW as much as possible. Once you´ve transformed that passive is "wasted" (since WW can´t gain ultimate in WW-form, otherwise that passive might have been good).
Implosion looks good on paper for the sorcs, but you´ll have so much burst damage anyway on a WW that you´ll rarely proc it anyway (This comes from own experience with playing WW on a sorc). Sure it´s nice to have some RNG luck with implosion once in a while, but I find it to unreliable to be any useful. The extra weapon damage from templar passive is really useful on Pelinial builds for example.
This doesn´t mean sorcs are bad for WW, it´s more of a personal preference
Yea, so nothing new and "outshines by miles" was a big overstatement. In PvP its not always possible to stay in WW and so the 15% ulticost reduction is really nice. And sorcs have only 1% less cost reduction on stamina and magicka. Their magicka recovery also helps with keeping up the WW heal which still uses magicka. And I would say in most cases 5% physical damage is far more worth it than 6% weapon damage, sure Pelinal is different case but besides that the Physical Damage is the superior. As well while you say Implosion is not all that, with the increased Time to Kill and lots of tankier builds in PvP the Implosion Passive can sway many fights in your favor. So yea, Templars might be better on a Hybrid build, but I would say Sorcs is the preferred outside of that. So again, not "outshined by miles", they are both still fairly close and have their strengths and weaknesses.
Wreuntzylla wrote: »One more class-based point to make is that regardless of class, you can put out 40k+ dps on a WW just buffing and using light attack.
One more off-topic point is that any dungeon that is not soloable because of a transform (e.g., skelly transform for pirate island last boss) does not work on a werewolf.
devilsTear wrote: »I'm thinking of foregoing the idea of ww, it's just a little overwhelming or maybe I'm doing it all wrong I dunno.
I seem to kill more in human form then when I go wolf, thanks for the feedback all
cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »Automaton is also a great set for WW, because their only non-physical damage is the dot from claws, but direct claws damage is physical.
And the heal doesn't scale from WD at all, as others have said
I get to benchmark my blood drinker/automaton/kena build as soon as I get another ring to drop (nothing in 10 runs)
cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »Automaton is also a great set for WW, because their only non-physical damage is the dot from claws, but direct claws damage is physical.
And the heal doesn't scale from WD at all, as others have said
I get to benchmark my blood drinker/automaton/kena build as soon as I get another ring to drop (nothing in 10 runs)
With Pelinial I can get the WW heal to heal me for 15k non-crit in Cyrodil and that´s damn good if u ask me xD