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Finally, a food that's better than Witchmother's Potent Brew!
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How's health regen useless lolDrummerx04 wrote: »So it's like withmother's... with health recovery? ZOS... buddy. Health regen is borderline useless. I'm not burning a perfect roe to add 300 health recovery over withmother's especially considering vampire is a thing.
Worth it? you mean would be extremly Op. It's fine as is, if not very strong alreadyValkyn_Eltrys wrote: »Remove hp regen, give hp and magicka 1100 more and its more worth
They don't cause it's not a good buff, but this one. Rest assure that plenty will use it, even at it's cost.How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.Edited by SanTii.92 on October 23, 2017 11:23PMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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And health regen.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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✭Well with the amount of gold floating around (if people are to be believed), I have no doubt that there will be plenty of players who take the small percentage of extra survivability this recipe gives seriously enough to use one of Tamriel’s most expensive commodities (aka perfect roe). And no doubt @ZO$ also know this.
For myself, I’ll stick to Witchmothers. Cheap to produce once you’ve acquired the recipe, I can live without the HP regen and marginally higher stats, thank you.2 -
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✭Drummerx04 wrote: »So it's like withmother's... with health recovery? ZOS... buddy. Health regen is borderline useless. I'm not burning a perfect roe to add 300 health recovery over withmother's especially considering vampire is a thing.
I disagree health recov is borderline useless, but I def agree its not worth a perfect roe to add 300."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
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✭✭✭✭Saucy_Jack wrote: »I've leveled all the toons I want to. So what good are xp pots to me? If I think the stats are worth it, I'll make the recipe.
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HP regen is peanuts compared to the rest. Still isn't worth a perfect roe.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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✭✭✭I like that there is gold food and I have no issue with the fact that it is difficult and expensive to make.
What's odd about the whole thing (to me) is that the gold ingredient can't be obtained directly as a Provisioner. You have to be a fisherman. With Blacksmithing, Clothier, or Woodworking, you can obtain your gold ingredient by refining materials, deconstructing items, via a hireling, or via crafting writs.
Compare this to Provisioning where the only way to obtain the gold material is the first option (refining), and, even then, to gather the raw materials one must invest in mats for a different skill, and any skill points I have in Provisioning do not help with increasing the percentage of perfect roe I receive when "refining" my fish. "Refining" fish also doesn't increase my skill in Provisioning. Compare this to node gathering where I can run around all day without any gathering tool or skill, and improvements to node gathering are gained by investing in my direct profession.
If the perfect roe is going to be a key ingredient for all of the "best" recipes, I think Provisioners should get the opportunity to obtain one rarely through their hirelings and writs, which I don't think is the case today.
By the way, I'm all for making fishing more integral to the game, and I do also like that the perfect roe has made fishing more profitable. It just seems inconsistent to me that food now has a gold level but the ingredient can't be gathered directly through the profession.
I think there are lot of possibilities here for fishing, too:
Option 1: Make fishing part of Provisioning, and make some of the Provisioning writs require "x amount" of rare fish. Also, add a skill to Provisioning line where fishing holes can be seen easier, fishing holes can drop more than one type of fish (Lake, River, etc.), and/or the type of bait can be known.
Option 2: Increase the probability slightly for wet gunny sacks to have "gold" items for other professions so that fishing can be a stronger feeder to all professions, and give fishing its own writs that drops bait, perfect roe, and maybe some cool novelty furnishings and surveys where sacks of fish can be found. Fish scales could become a drop that could be used in other professions... say, for example, as part of transmutation? Or "transmorgification?"
Alchemy doesn't have gold potions (yet) and at least for Enchanting you can have hirelings and probably writ rewards (although I admit I am not a master enchanter and haven't experienced this firsthand). Therefore, requiring perfect roe as a provisioning ingredient, as things stand today, does seem illogical and I think is part of the reason for the objections in this thread.
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✭✭✭Perfect roe is like 13k I believe on ps4
That makes 4 servings so around 3k every 2 hours. Not that bad but is a bit of a waste of money too and haven't considered the recipe's price1 -
AtraisMachina✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event.
It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.Brutusmax1mus wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event. It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.
Majority won't bc of the cost, but its a fact that this is the best magicka food available. Ill use it for serious occasions, Just not all the time.
The reason people dont use bear haunch is because it doesn't provide max mag or max stam stats.
I agree this wont get a majority use but it will get min-max use. I use witchmothers currently and this does more than everything witch mothers does so I will use it during leaderboard and serious vet trial runs for sure regardless of the cost.0 -
AtraisMachina✭✭✭Yea the real issue i have with this is its the same recovery value as witchmothers its gold and takes gold mats. Should get equivalently more mag recovery as the max stats1
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GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »
Why is health recovery 'borderline useless'?Drummerx04 wrote: »So it's like withmother's... with health recovery? ZOS... buddy. Health regen is borderline useless. I'm not burning a perfect roe to add 300 health recovery over withmother's especially considering vampire is a thing.
For us non vampire, non grouping, solo PVE types, who don't do 25k+ DPS, it is a good thing. I get frustrated with people making general statements, simply because they see no benefit in something for themselves and their characters.
300 health recovery is not going to help you in any way shape or form, specially because it will be uber expensive to use it in PvE... get real, pleasePC/EU 800 CP.
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Maybe because it equates to only 175 health per second more than you already have going. That amount is very unlikely to be the difference between success and failure in any PvP or PvE encounter, thus "borderline useless". Especially considering how much time/gold you'd have to spend to use that food regularly.disintegr8 wrote: »
Why is health recovery 'borderline useless'?Drummerx04 wrote: »So it's like withmother's... with health recovery? ZOS... buddy. Health regen is borderline useless. I'm not burning a perfect roe to add 300 health recovery over withmother's especially considering vampire is a thing.
For us non vampire, non grouping, solo PVE types, who don't do 25k+ DPS, it is a good thing. I get frustrated with people making general statements, simply because they see no benefit in something for themselves and their characters.
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rustic_potato✭✭✭✭✭Wait why is this a problem? Buy the roe and make the food? There are builds for which this food will be really strong.
#Nopoorsallowed.I play how I want to.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rustic_potato wrote: »Wait why is this a problem? Buy the roe and make the food? There are builds for which this food will be really strong.
#Nopoorsallowed.
200 difference isn't "really strong". Not by any stretch. It's a marginal improvement at best.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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The reality check is that if you are going to use the recipe and find it useful, that's a minority opinion. Ergo, you are in the minority.
Most people will feel the same way about this as they do every other non-ambrosia recipe that requires perfect roe. That's just reality.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
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✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event. It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.
Majority won't bc of the cost, but its a fact that this is the best magicka food available. Ill use it for serious occasions, Just not all the time.
Actually that's your opinion not a fact. I much prefer using Ghastly Eye Bowl since it offers 800 more max magic and 106 more magic recovery. Considering how strong healing is I'd much rather have the extra magic to do more DPS than a bit of health.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event. It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.
Majority won't bc of the cost, but its a fact that this is the best magicka food available. Ill use it for serious occasions, Just not all the time.
Actually that's your opinion not a fact. I much prefer using Ghastly Eye Bowl since it offers 800 more max magic and 106 more magic recovery. Considering how strong healing is I'd much rather have the extra magic to do more DPS than a bit of health.
Are you that guy I ran with yesterday with 10k HP and kept dying?PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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✭itscompton wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event. It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.
Majority won't bc of the cost, but its a fact that this is the best magicka food available. Ill use it for serious occasions, Just not all the time.
Actually that's your opinion not a fact. I much prefer using Ghastly Eye Bowl since it offers 800 more max magic and 106 more magic recovery. Considering how strong healing is I'd much rather have the extra magic to do more DPS than a bit of health.
Are you that guy I ran with yesterday with 10k HP and kept dying?
Nope, I'm that guy with 29.5 K in Cyrodiil with no max health food. Who also happens to be Templar that can get 2x the extra 3750 health back with one push of a button. Point being, the "best" magic food is subjective based on your build.
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✭✭✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »itscompton wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event. It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.
Majority won't bc of the cost, but its a fact that this is the best magicka food available. Ill use it for serious occasions, Just not all the time.
Actually that's your opinion not a fact. I much prefer using Ghastly Eye Bowl since it offers 800 more max magic and 106 more magic recovery. Considering how strong healing is I'd much rather have the extra magic to do more DPS than a bit of health.
Are you that guy I ran with yesterday with 10k HP and kept dying?
Nope, I'm that guy with 29.5 K in Cyrodiil with no max health food. Who also happens to be Templar that can get 2x the extra 3750 health back with one push of a button. Point being, the "best" magic food is subjective based on your build.
What's "best" in this context means what is used by most magicka builds - at this time that is Witchmother's Potent Brew. The stats on this new food make it the new "best" (or it would be, if not for that perfect roe).
Objectively, if something costs more to use/make than something that is marginally less effective, most will forfeit what's "best" for whats easiest.
So yes, you may have a different "best" based on your own preferences and experiences, but there is also an objective "best" based on the meta. Neither are really the best. Just "best".PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
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✭✭...except it uses *** perfect roe.
Way to ruin a good thing, ZOS.
When are you going to accept that most people aren't going to burn perfect roes for anything outside of ambrosias? You're wasting your time making food that the overwhelming majority of people will never use.
Exactly.. Until purple and Yelllow food give more stats than blue foods, there's no point.
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Wrong. You're defining terms the way you want them to be defined and as a matter of fact equating popularity with quality is a logical fallacy https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/24/Appeal-to-Common-Belief. As I said before the "best" has to be judged based on, you got it, context. As in "I don't need more health so I don't need magic food to give me health" and therefore a food that gives me what I really need, more max magic and more magic recovery , is "best" for my build. And for someone with very high base magic/health recovery but lower max magic/health a food with just Max Health and Max Magic would be "best" for them. The post I originally replied to made a blanket statement that it was a "fact" this new food was the "best" in the game, which again, is subjective based each players needs.itscompton wrote: »itscompton wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »
So it is nearly as useless as all of those burnt trees and branches the Halloween festival is giving us, along with 99.99% of all recipes in the game.disintegr8 wrote: »Most recipes are never going to be used, why should this be any different?
I would certainly use this recipe if it suited my characters needs, as being well over CP cap I have no use for Ambrosia. I'd suggest there are a lot of players who might use it.
"A lot of players" - no. It's a very, very, very small percentage of players that would be willing to use this. Don't kid yourself.
As for it not being used, it's a brand new recipe. If they are putting out new content, it should be usable. Instead this recipe is now in the same trash bin as Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch.
You have your opinion, I'll stick with kidding myself.
Talking about recipes, not the useless burnt *** you get in the event. It's a fact that the overwhelming majority of players will not use this.
This is a gold level recipe, it should have been made usable by the majority of players.
They need to stop putting perfect roe in as an ingredient in these recipes so that people will actually use them.
thank you for representing me and all the other players in the game with your 'overwhelming majority' statements. Please actually ask people next time before doing so, since many of us do not agree with your opinion. Yes, an opinion, with no basis in facts. Just because you would not use something, and you know one person who wouldnt, this is not an overwhelming majority.
By definition, if you disagree, that makes you the minority. So I didn't misrepresent you. It's not an opinion to state that the majority of people won't use this recipe. It's a fact.
How do I know this? Because the majority of people don't use Orzorga's Smoked Bear Haunch. That, my friend, is what we call compelling evidence. It's happened before and it's going to happen again.
Majority won't bc of the cost, but its a fact that this is the best magicka food available. Ill use it for serious occasions, Just not all the time.
Actually that's your opinion not a fact. I much prefer using Ghastly Eye Bowl since it offers 800 more max magic and 106 more magic recovery. Considering how strong healing is I'd much rather have the extra magic to do more DPS than a bit of health.
Are you that guy I ran with yesterday with 10k HP and kept dying?
Nope, I'm that guy with 29.5 K in Cyrodiil with no max health food. Who also happens to be Templar that can get 2x the extra 3750 health back with one push of a button. Point being, the "best" magic food is subjective based on your build.
What's "best" in this context means what is used by most magicka builds - at this time that is Witchmother's Potent Brew. The stats on this new food make it the new "best" (or it would be, if not for that perfect roe).
Objectively, if something costs more to use/make than something that is marginally less effective, most will forfeit what's "best" for whats easiest.
So yes, you may have a different "best" based on your own preferences and experiences, but there is also an objective "best" based on the meta. Neither are really the best. Just "best".Edited by itscompton on October 24, 2017 5:24AM2 -
tommalmm✭✭✭Hmmm... Nice food.
The health recovery is pretty useless in PVE (in PVP also, unless you build for really high values, sacrificing other areas). That's 175 HP every second. Considering every class has either access to some class specific or weapon specific selfheals that are by orders of magnitude more efficient...
But... To have an additional 200 health/mag is an improvement. A tiny one, but with min/maxing it's always about all the small things that put together make a difference. Is it worth ~2.5k per serving? Not really, but at some point this is not an issue.0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As an endgame PvEer who wants to min-max their build..... I’ll pass. This new gold food is better in every way that Witchmother’s Brew (more of each stat), and adds that Health Recovery which is actually pretty decent.
.... but to require Perfect Roe? That’s ridiculous. Maybe I’ll keep like 20 on me for the rarest of score run occasions. Otherwise I really wish they never added this new recipe. It’s essentially a stat boost to rich players. Spell pots being so pricey was bad enough.Edited by Vaoh on October 24, 2017 8:56AM1 -
Blacksmoke✭✭✭✭✭Only place I'd use this is maybe in a very though trail or maybe when i'm in maelstrom but even then I probably will stick to good ole brew never saw the need in such expensive foodChampion point: 645CharactersGanlian Stormian - AD - Dungeon healer - Templar - CrafterOndaril Stormian - AD - Trail DPS - SorcererShagrod gro-Bolmog - AD - PVP - Dragonknight0
