Again. Lol. Really sad

Ironically in your earlier rants you actually agreed with me. Not that you meant to. Go back and read through it. Cause without it what your saying doesn't mean jack.

Seriously, the best motivator is having content and combat design players want to play. Who cares about motivation from gear drops if no one wants to play. Who cares about motivation from gear drops if most stop playing once they have it.

Think about it. I bet you will make sense if it soon enough, maybe not today.

If you cannot get that or understand the basics of that you probably have the wrong hobby. I seriously doubt you have read my posts and merely reply to argue.

Sad indeed. Read the comments before replying.

Content is a good motivator to play. Is it the best? I don't know. I haven't seen any proof of that. You keep flapping your gums with zero evidence. Prove what you're saying.

Now new content is not realistic to have all the time. We have something new once a quarter which is not bad. Then what? What's the motivator to keep playing after the first week of that new content? Gear is the best one. Link posted above.

Who cares about motivation from gear drops if no one wants to play. Who cares about motivation from gear drops if most stop playing once they have it.

Stop with this facepalm-inducing trolling. READ what you're replying to. THEY DO NOT STOP PLAYING once they get it (some do, obviously, but the rate is comparably low). That's the whole point. They keep playing. If that gear was hard to get it increases intrinsic motivation. People want to keep playing, it becomes more fun, because they worked for something and now can use it and see how their results are becoming better.

They do stop playing at a much higher rate when rewards aren't competency-based. That's true for all activities, not just MMOs.

If you cannot get that or understand the basics of that you probably have the wrong hobby. I seriously doubt you have read my posts and merely reply to argue.

LOL get back under your bridge troll, now you're just repeating what I said. You are replying just to argue. STILL provided no evidence, so at this point what you're saying is just your wet dreams. And still haven't replied my 2nd question from the previous comment.

Again: If there are better means, why ONLY implement them if it's clearly more efficient to implement both best and second best means, since they both will add to the desired result?

Competency-based rewards increase motivation REGARDLESS of new content. If there's new content - the rewards will increase motivation of more players, no other difference. Why would one not implement competency-based rewards? Where is the good reason for that? There's none. There's no contradiction between new content and most powerful rewards behind most difficult content. We need both.

Nope, it's justified here, since you keep ignoring the arguments. That's not name calling, that's the constatation of fact. That's how it looks.

The argument is flawless, that's why you still didn't say anything remotely relevant for the most part of this thread. You STILL haven't answered a simply question I repeated twice. And you STILL didn't provide any evidence to your blahblahblah. So, no evidence, just claims, and "I don't care what you think" when the last paragraph is not every what I think, it's simple math/logic...Now THAT is a clear demonstration of weakness of the the argument. I did, as a matter of fact, study that as it's one of the requirements for my science degree. If you did too, you'd know these basic things yourself. And I thought it was you who said you understood all this "very well"?

Your wet dreams no matter how you want them to be aren't reality. Reality and numbers are against you in this case. Both directly showing that gear others can't have is the highest motivator and indirectly showing that your premise is dumb - there's no reason to choose between best motivator and second best if they are independent and you can implement both.

No, what can be said is the questions can be answered. 1) Any evidence to your fantasies. 2)Any good reason not to take advantage of more than one independent motivators. But instead, you choose to prove once again that my words about you were right. Troll, nothing more. A person is taking his time to show correlations and find sources, when you keep ignoring the points and just insult him with lol, not addressing points, calling the information he took time to find to be his opinion.

Again, it has nothing to with my opinion. It's summary of research vs your opinion that you still didn't show to be based on anything except for your wishes.

No one is arguing about that. You are trying to make an argument about that but it's not and never will be. The thread is about gear. Without that nothing matters? So what? Necessary =\= sufficient. Also, quality content and combat system HAVE NOTHING TO DO with this thread. And you are twice more false: 1) without it players still play, so yes, motivation and rewards still matter. Players do play between updates. What keeps them? Exactly. 2) WITH that competency-based rewards are still important.

They are absolutely independent criteria. Again, you STILL haven't replied a simple question - why not use competency-based rewards provided the content is there ( and it is there, we get it every quarter).

I am the one arguing for the sake of arguing? When I address every single point and provide actual date, while you still ignore questions I ask you again and again and just drop some irrelevant sentences? Nope. That's you showing your troll face again. "Little study"? How dare you? It's not little and time and effort spent to write it - and find it, whereas you showed ZERO studies so far. Nothing, but your fantasies.

Nope. My line never changed. Having better rewards for harder and more time-consuming content is a great motivator.

I did not choose that. I already explained it 3 times and if you weren't a troll but read what you arguing with you'd see it. I quoted both comments I disagreed with. The way to do it is to quote the last one that already had the first one quoted. Simple as that.

I read the link, nowhere did it even remotely look like I admit to any of that nonsense you accuse me of.


Well but you are a troll, what else should I call you? O.O?? Once again, I outlined how you could make any point and make your words looks like something more than just babbling. Yet you ignored both questions again. And no wonder, because you know you can't answer them because you know you are wrong. THere is absolutely zero evidence behind your claims, and there's absolutely zero reason not to implement a way that is (kinda)scientifically shown to increase intrinsic motivation.

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I still get a laugh out of you calling me a troll. LOL. Really hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Keep it up. I will need another laugh tomorrow. I will have to note your baiting from early on for next time. Really so obvious now.

And again, I respect you have an opinion, and will be specific that it concerns ESO. However, regardless of your delusion that the study makes it more, it is only an opinion. Nothing you can say will make it more that that, which has been your flaw with your argument. It is your view on the subject which by definition is an opinion. That is the only fact in here.

It's neither nor. You are one. You can easily show you aren't by simply addressing the questions I asked, but you don't for one of the two reasons, you're either a troll or you got cornered and got nothing, but your ego won't let you admit it, so you keep embarrassing yourself.

Nothing changed. It's still not my opinion. There are still studies and data suggesting what I'm saying and there is ZERO reason to think your fantasies are true. Again, not "the study" - I linked multiple studies. They show numbers and factors. These are facts. It's not my view or my opinion, it's a summary of facts and data.

The questions are still there. Answer or gtfo with your blahblahblah.