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Someone on your team is listed as a DPS, Healer and Tank....
coop500
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What do you often do about it? Assuming this is a 4 man dungeon or trial and you don't know the person.
Edited by coop500 on September 27, 2017 9:33PM Hoping for more playable races
Someone on your team is listed as a DPS, Healer and Tank.... 263 votes
Insta kick, they are probably lying
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Supicious of them, but gives them a chance
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149 votes
Nothing, I don't care
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Tactical32✭✭✭I'm out. I'll eat the penalty for leaving because in the long run it's going to much less of a waste of time.4
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chance<--- does this.
Someone can q as all three and have 3 armor and skill sets they swap with the press of a button. If you insta-kick, not even giving them a chance, it says more about you than them. Period.41 -
Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothing, I don't careIf I use group finder I expect to carry people. If it's a trial then it's likely someone I know and will petition to have them kicked, jokingly of course.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA6 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceOP here. I usually am suspcious because more likely then not, they are lying. But I met a few that can do all three on one toon as well. Plus I am not much of a kicker as a vote on someone else's kick, if it seems fair.Hoping for more playable races0 -
akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceI'd always give them the chance to do the fights first, see if they're fulfilling their role. Also see if the dungeon needs that role.
Same goes for low level players, I'd always give them a chance to fight first before I drop out if the group is hopeless in finishing.
This is bcos I've been there done that, I can be low levels but I know how to fight and what to do, and the mechanics.
Also Templar can be hybrid effectively, meaning they can tank, heal and dps , just by swapping gears, don't need respec on skill points cos I already invested all skill line fully 325 skill points. No cp need to change for either role, cos 660 cp is plenty to allocate on each role. And all three roles put attributes in magicka just alter the food you eat and you are good to go into either role.
So nothing wrong with it if it's a hybrid build.Pc na2 -
Alpheu5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceTo put it shortly, I'll just immediately view them as a bad DPS, bad tank, and bad healer.
To break it down:
If I'm the dedicated tank and:- They are the only one marked as a healer:
- I'll be more concentrated about my own self-preservation so I can rez the players that die to the lack of real heals.
- There is a dedicated healer in the group:
- I'll view the Tri-Player as a bad DPS and expect bosses to take a while, but that's not bothersome unless there's a DPS check.
If I'm one of the DPS and:- They are technically the other DPS:
- I'll view the Tri-Player as a bad DPS and expect to have to do most of the damage work on the bosses.
- They are the only one tagged as healer:
- I'll be more mindful of my self heals and try harder to keep heals on the tank. Also, I'd probably replace Shooting Star with Veil so we get more damage mitigation.
- They are the only one tagged as tank:
- I'll keep an eye on them during the first few pulls. If they're doing a minimum of at least keeping taunts up, we're ok.
Edited by Alpheu5 on September 27, 2017 9:59PMDalek-Rok - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Shād - Argonian Nightblade || Dalek-Shul - Argonian Templar || Dalek-Xal - Argonian Dragonknight || Mounts-the-Snout - Argonian Warden || Dalek-Xul - Argonian Necromancer || Two-Spires - Argonian Arcanist || Dalek-Nesh - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Kör - Argonian DragonknightJudas Helviaryn wrote: »Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.5 - They are the only one marked as a healer:
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I never pre-judge a group. If we do OK on the first trash mob pull, I will wait until the first boss. If we wipe in spectacular fashion, its time to talk to the group and maybe time to leave it.
Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"1 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceI don't vote to kick but make my decision to stay or go after the first boss. I usually stay unless it is really obvious there is no way the group will finish.
I don't like that people can queue for more than one role and would like that to change. Doesn't matter to me if they can do more than one role well or not they should decide before going in what role they want to be.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."3 -
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✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceIt depends. If they’re gear-swapping and they have the skill points to cover the roles, it works out.
If they’re obviously just abusing the roles select in the Groupfinder (like we can’t get past the first boss), I vote to kick.
If that fails, I leave. I’ll take the 15 minutes over the repair costs any day.2 -
Darkestnght✭✭✭✭Insta kick, they are probably lyingI use to just wait and see how it goes but it hardly ever turns out that they can fill the role they end up getting. I do not have time for people like this.Xbox NA - CP1300+
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✭Nothing, I don't careWill most likely be me. Never got kicked. AlphaGear is a great AddOn. Will swap to loadout needed for assigned role.
When pugging with groupfinder, i dont expect ppl to be more usefaul than for pulling a lever.Edited by eso_nya on September 27, 2017 10:19PM0 -
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✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceIf they don't look like they are going to be able to perform the role they are assigned, or change so that they can then we will be having problems. First few pulls usually sorts our if they really are what they say they are.2 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nothing, I don't careWhat do you often do about it? Assuming this is a 4 man dungeon or trial and you don't know the person.
Just because they have all three listed for the queue - they still only entered the dungeon as one defined role.
So this isn't something people should concern themselves with really. Judge them by how well they perform that single role they entered the dungeon as.Edited by Jeremy on September 27, 2017 11:03PM0 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceWhat do you often do about it? Assuming this is a 4 man dungeon or trial and you don't know the person.
Just because they have all three listed for the queue - they still only entered the dungeon as one defined role.
So this isn't something you should concern yourself with really. Judge them by how well they perform that single role they entered the dungeon as.
You didn't read my vote?Hoping for more playable races0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chance
You see this a lot in normals, feels like the main downside of an warden healer is low dps. 5K single target while templar is around 15K real performance on boss with group who did not need lots of heal.DocFrost72 wrote: »<--- does this.
Someone can q as all three and have 3 armor and skill sets they swap with the press of a button. If you insta-kick, not even giving them a chance, it says more about you than them. Period.
On the other hand you can do an vet dungeon pledge with Wayrest 2 then do an normal random with the same dungeon and have to work harder and its slower
And you can swap around, good tanks to swap between dd, tanky dd and full tank depending on group and enemy.
Not up to that level myself but working on itGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nothing, I don't careWhat do you often do about it? Assuming this is a 4 man dungeon or trial and you don't know the person.
Just because they have all three listed for the queue - they still only entered the dungeon as one defined role.
So this isn't something you should concern yourself with really. Judge them by how well they perform that single role they entered the dungeon as.
You didn't read my vote?
The you was meant more generally. So replace the word you with people.0 -
bmannb16_ESO✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceUsually its a dps trying to que hop, If it non vet they can usually be carried, if it's vet GTFO.AD Six feet under (Sorc, Templar, Dragon Knight)
EP Six feet under (Warden, Dragon Knight, Sorc)
EP Sometimes Salty (Nightblade)
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coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceWhat do you often do about it? Assuming this is a 4 man dungeon or trial and you don't know the person.
Just because they have all three listed for the queue - they still only entered the dungeon as one defined role.
So this isn't something you should concern yourself with really. Judge them by how well they perform that single role they entered the dungeon as.
You didn't read my vote?
The you was meant more generally. So replace the word you with people.
Ahh~ I seeHoping for more playable races0 -
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✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceOP here. I usually am suspcious because more likely then not, they are lying. But I met a few that can do all three on one toon as well. Plus I am not much of a kicker as a vote on someone else's kick, if it seems fair.
Especially if they're a Warden. If they show up as tank in my group, I expect them to have at least 30K health. If I have more health on my DPS character than they do, I become VERY suspicious...1 -
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✭Nothing, I don't careAs a Grand Warlord, Flawless Conquerer, Drom'athra Destroyer, I sometimes pug vet dungeons and mark as all three roles (which I can do) for the lolz... I would be rather amused if I got insta kicked because someone thought I was lying about being able to tank something as benign as vICP or whatever.
I also get amused when zone pugs ask me how much CP I have before inviting me to a group. Usually I just say, "enough"PC/NA - Nightfighters, Raid Leader and Officer
Lilith Arujo - DC sorc tank/dps/healer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer, Gryphon Heart, Grand Warlord
Lilith Tortorici - DC templar trials healer
Notable Completions:
vAS (72k), vMoL HM (160k), vAA HM (135k), vHRC HM, vSO HM (141k), vHoF HM (168k), vCR+3(129k), vDSA 45k, vMA 591k
Original Addons:
Lilith's Group Manager
Lilith's Lazy Hacks - Auto Recharge/Repair
Bot Scanner 2000
Lilith's Command History
Maintained Addons:
Kill Counter2 -
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✭✭Nothing, I don't careThe real question is what is their CP?
If they're at 660 CP I'll trust them to just be an extra DPS and carry the group.
Anything under 250 CP I doubt they'll do a good job of being a tank/healer-lite1 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceI thank ZOS for the wonderful system they have in place which allows you to choose all roles. Genius.1 -
gronoxvx✭✭✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceDepends on the dungeon. Anything vet its instant kick unless its something along the lines of coa1.
Dlc’s on the otherhand its instant kick. Doesnt matter if its normal or vet.Edited by gronoxvx on September 28, 2017 2:50AM0 -
Fishstrom✭✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceIf it's a normal dungeon, they probably did it to skip the queue, if it's a vet dungeon, it would have to depend on how difficult it is as they are probably a DPS wanting to skip the line. If they are actually all 3 then they are probably new to this game and need to l2p2 -
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✭If it's normal I let it slide.
If it's vet I call them out at them start and ask them to pick one role.
It would be better if you could only pick one role.1 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭Depends.
My hybrid Templar queues as tank and DPS because he actually does the damage and tanking. So if I were in your shoes, I'd say give them a chance. You'll never know if it turns out well especially when they are competent.The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
EP CP810 Nightblade
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AD CP810 Templar
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AD Lvl 25 Sorceror
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DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
Shadow hide you. -Unknown
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✭✭Supicious of them, but gives them a chanceIf they have taken the healers spot and don't heal - kick, even in a normal dungeon, on principal.
Agree with @LordGavus - it would be better if you could not queue in multiple roles. I have never done so in 2 years of playing.Edited by disintegr8 on September 28, 2017 4:32AMAustralian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.4
