Pirhanni the Smuggler

Nordic_Pirate · September 2017

So you go through the achievement only to discover she takes 35% of the cut from your stolen goods AND she also has the fence limit cap. I think in order to fix this assistant, the fence cap should be taken away. She's still taking her 35% cut, but at least make her useful in some way.

Enslaved · September 2017

I would settle for her being able to launder items, even if for more coin than normal.

Runschei · September 2017

She is cute but her service is terrible.

IwakuraLain42 · September 2017

Cute assistant, but completely useless practically. Please remove the cut (35% is way too much) and add to option to launder stuff.

method__01 · September 2017

its the price you pay for not going back and forth to fences,very practical when you carry a lot and you need inventory space

Lyserus · September 2017

I would accept her if she only cuts 10% (which will cancel out the haggling ability if you have full skill points in it)

But you know, ZOS, never bothers with old content because no profit from it

Slick_007 · September 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

I would accept her if she only cuts 10% (which will cancel out the haggling ability if you have full skill points in it)

But you know, ZOS, never bothers with old content because no profit from it

out of that 35% ZOS take a 25% cut

Fischblut · September 2017

Agree! Other assistants' functionality is gutted as well, but fence is the worst of them

I would simply remove 35% cut - no need to add ability to launder items or clear bounty (although I would love those options as well). This would make her in line with other personal assistants. I use her very rarely, if I occasionally steal one-two items and it's not worth going to Outlaw's Refuge to sell them...

I think she's gutted more than banker and merchant simply cause of price - she costs 2k crowns (price of dlc), and other assistants cost 5k crowns

Turelus · September 2017

Enslaved wrote: »

I would settle for her being able to launder items, even if for more coin than normal.

This is a great idea. Have her be a chance to clean those items in the field and avoid the risk of loss, but pay a premium for it.

QoL improvement and minor gold sink, everyone wins.

Storymaster · September 2017

Enslaved wrote: »

I would settle for her being able to launder items, even if for more coin than normal.

THIS

She is useless because she cannot LAUNDER.

scipionumatia · September 2017

I use her to level up ledgemain quickly. That alone is good enough for me. I'm not a RPer

Storymaster · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

I use her to level up ledgemain quickly. That alone is good enough for me. I'm not a RPer

What does RP have to do with Pirhanni's function?

scipionumatia · September 2017

@Storymaster I assumed that's what all the huff is about. The utility to dump all your stolen items and keep going is great, who cares if she takes 35% it's not like I'm stealing items for the sake of making gold, is stealing for leveling up to reduce sneak cost.
I do agree it would be nice for her to be able to launder but I assume they're saving that for the "premium" assistants?

Storymaster · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

@Storymaster I assumed that's what all the huff is about. The utility to dump all your stolen items and keep going is great, who cares if she takes 35% it's not like I'm stealing items for the sake of making gold, is stealing for leveling up to reduce sneak cost.
I do agree it would be nice for her to be able to launder but I assume they're saving that for the "premium" assistants?

@scipionumatia
That has nothing to do with roleplay at all. We want her to have the functionality of LAUNDERING our items, making them clean so we can keep the items. That's an in-game function--not RP.

Storymaster · September 2017

@scipionumatia
Imagine this, you are pickpocketing and burglarizing your way through a town or establishment and you steal a blue plan with heat. Being able to summon Pirhanni to pay to launder said item so that it no longer has heat would be very valuable to us. Being that she cannot do that, and the items she does fence incur a huge price-gouging cut, many of us feel that she is a useless, empty reward.

SquareSausage · September 2017

Ye i dont mind the cut either, i use the assistant to clear out stuff so i can continue pickpocketting without stopping. not fussed is he takes 35% of a 40gp white item. Blue items and above ill generally save for the refuge.

GaunterODim · September 2017

She might be the least useful of the three assistants, but Im still glad to have her for whenever im running around in open world, maybe questing and just have a small stolen stuff(thieves throve for example) that wouldnt be worth the way to the city.
Especially like her when on a new character to level the skill line and because it just takes some seconds to get rid of the stolen stuff while still gaining something of it.

Myyth · September 2017

oh yeah, that assistant from thieves guild.

I completely forgot about her!

I got the achievement maybe a year ago, saw that she takes 35%, then never used or thought about her again. costs way too much. I would use her if it was something like 10%.

Storymaster · September 2017

GaunterODim wrote: »

She might be the least useful of the three assistants, but Im still glad to have her for whenever im running around in open world, maybe questing and just have a small stolen stuff(thieves throve for example) that wouldnt be worth the way to the city.
Especially like her when on a new character to level the skill line and because it just takes some seconds to get rid of the stolen stuff while still gaining something of it.

That's fair, but the fact that she can't launder not even 2 to 3 items a day is just very disappointing.

scipionumatia · September 2017

@Storymaster
I've been in that same position several times, just stay stealthed and if the plan is valueable take a break go to a refuge and launder. Happened to me with Breton throne recipie. And even if a guard stops you/tries to kill you they are laughably easy to escape from

Spacemonkey · September 2017

I like her.

If I actually go on a theiving (or mrudering) spree, then I ought to pay 35% if im too lazy to go to a proper outlaw refuge.

Seriously the 35% is nothing.

As others have mentioned, the fact you can't launder is a MUCH bigger deal.

KingMagaw · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

@Storymaster
I've been in that same position several times, just stay stealthed and if the plan is valueable take a break go to a refuge and launder. Happened to me with Breton throne recipie. And even if a guard stops you/tries to kill you they are laughably easy to escape from

Until the game freezes or boots you from the game leaving your char getting beat up and all items lost )

Laundering will come with the PREMIUM assistant no doubt @ a cheap 5k crowns lol

OutLaw_Nynx · September 2017

Pretty useless given the fact we can’t launder.

I need to check if she counts towards the black market achievement. If she doesn’t then she is really useless.

GaunterODim · September 2017

Storymaster wrote: »

GaunterODim wrote: »

She might be the least useful of the three assistants, but Im still glad to have her for whenever im running around in open world, maybe questing and just have a small stolen stuff(thieves throve for example) that wouldnt be worth the way to the city.
Especially like her when on a new character to level the skill line and because it just takes some seconds to get rid of the stolen stuff while still gaining something of it.

That's fair, but the fact that she can't launder not even 2 to 3 items a day is just very disappointing.

Yes, I would like that too, because would be pretty easily solved with just some higher laundering cost and voila. Cant think of a good reason why she shouldnt be able to do so.

Storymaster · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

@Storymaster
I've been in that same position several times, just stay stealthed and if the plan is valueable take a break go to a refuge and launder. Happened to me with Breton throne recipie. And even if a guard stops you/tries to kill you they are laughably easy to escape from

I don't have a problem getting to the refuge, son. The discussion is about Pirhanni and how useless she is to many of us. She's supposed to be a reward, but she's a reward many of us never use because it's just better to go to the refuge either becuase she takes almost half the gold or because she cannot perform the function we need.

Eyesinthedrk · September 2017

I got her and I don't think I've ever used her.

eso_nya · September 2017

Beside her not being able to launder, her service is not only bad, because of her cut, its also not really usefull when going for the "Sell stolen items worth 4k at each thiefsden".

TequilaFire · September 2017

I think the thought process behind Pirhanni not being able to launder is that it would bypass the risk of acquiring desired stolen items by having to sneak back to a hideout which is an object of the game.

Storymaster · September 2017

TequilaFire wrote: »

I think the thought process behind Pirhanni not being able to launder is that it would bypass the risk of acquiring desired stolen items by having to sneak back to a hideout which is an object of the game.

At the end of the day, she feels like an empty reward. If she could only launder 1 item a day, she would be immensely better. In many ways, it's just stressful to even consider her.

Aisle9 · September 2017

Enslaved wrote: »

I would settle for her being able to launder items, even if for more coin than normal.

This ^

Nordic_Pirate · September 2017

I think that with achievements such as the Black Market Mogul, it really sucks that we're capped at 140 items a day. I get that it's supposed to be a hard achievement, but not everyone can log on every single day to do this. So her being able to launder would be awesome, but I'd also take infinite fences for the 35% cut. Either way, I feel something should happen with her to make her decent. Running into town is easy as pie, especially with the backdoor entrances, so she is super useless.