Templar buff of one of the its strongest skill back in the past. Hopefully buff that not works only on paper.

Juhasow wrote: »

No ballance changes cannot be commented without proper testing them because it'll be just theorising and people on this forum are horrible at this and proved that many times.

True. We usually have 5 weeks which is enough time. PC/Mac players truly interested will hop on PTS and test it in a few weeks. We have seen changes made from players testing as recently as the current update.

Ok, so I've played every class, Stam and magica lot. In Pve and PvP. So my thoughts are completely class neutral. I don't really do vet trials, but I do a lot of other Pve content. I prefer small group so most my opinions are based around being in a small group, fighting larger groups.

Warden - Magica needs a Pve damage buff. It is so far behind other classes. They have passives for frost damage. Problem is, frost staff is useless for dps. Can't heavy attack had no bonus damage tied to it. That's a problem. It seems good in pvp though from what I've seen. It's the one thing I've not played in pvp but I have a PvP healer/support build coming which will be potent, j already know it.

Tree ult is way too cheap. Pains me to say as I play a lot of Stam warden in PvP and tank on a warden. Tree ult is way too good for it's cost. Especially when you tie in shimmering shield. Not sure which you need here, but together they are probably too strong imo.

Stam is great in PvP. Use whatever weapons you want, bust damage, healing, mobility, great burst. They're in a real good spot.

Bird spam not being dodgeable... I don't know. I know people hate it, but even against them it's not that much of an issue for me. On most builds I shield or block them and they don't do much damage. On stamblade, I cloak them rather than dodge and then he's my priority.

Sorcerer - I don't think shields are an issue. Time your CCs smart and line up burst. The one problem I do have is how a sorc can go from defensive to super offensive in an instant. You can curse a guy, spam shield and survive until you proc a frag, bam. Frag and curse hit. Throw a mages wrath and destro medium weave. Dead. I think that's an issue. I don't think shields should proc frag personally. Should be offensive skills.

Mages wrath/endless fury is too much. 4 seconds to proc and execute. Outnumbered you have this on you 100% of the time. As soon as you hit 20%, you're dead. No chance to react. I think it's too much. Half the time or something.

I think Stam sorc is fine in PvP. It can be strong when built correctly and played to it's strengths. They have a lot of counters if you know what you're doing which is good.

Both Stam and magica are fine in Pve as far as I've seen.

Dragonkinght - Stam DK was my first character so I'll stat there. For Pve, they're awesome. Great DPS with easy gear and simple rotation. In pvp, I think they're in a good spot. Yeh, they got nerfed a bit either Morrowind. But you play all the other Stam classes (aside from nightblade) and dk hold up well. Sustain is still good compared to the others (aside from Stam sorc which can be great), survivability is good and burst damage can be great.

Magica dk is good in pvp too. It was way behind for a long time but I feel it's in a good spot now. Damage is good and survivability can be incredible. Solo can be hard, but they're amazing in a group setting.

Haven't played Pve much on mag dk in a while, but from my understanding they pull less than Stam DPS but take take up a mele slot which causes issues.

Templar

Magica Templar suffers the same fate in Pve as mag dk. In PvP, the class is good. It's great for group play. You get immortal ones, but that's a heavy armor issue and how they can synergise with it. They kind of suck solo, but maybe not every class should be good in all situations. Burst do is the issue in solo. You end up on the defensive outnumbered, you get stuck on the defensive.

For stamplar, I've not PvEd on one much so I'm not too sure. For PvP, the main issue is sustain. It's a lot worse than the other Stam classes. Trouble is, medium is just too squishy in PvP outside of Stam NB. Dodge roll is a much worse defense then the resistances and healing heavy gives. So you wear heavy and then your sustain suffers (compared to the other 3 who do well in heavy). So you spec into sustain ad then lack damage. Whenever I go on my stamplar, after a bit I just want to go on my warden, Stam sorc or dk. I can do much better on them solo/outnumbered.

Nightblade

So Stam is great in PvP, especially solo. You have burst, sustain and survivability. People who say they're squishy aren't playing one properly. With great sustain to dodge roll and tool like cloak, fear and shade, you can avoid damage like crazy. You get in, hit someone, relocate. Hit someone, relocate.

I think incap is a bit too strong. Yes you can dodge it, but it does so much for a cheap ult. Defile and increased damage is so strong. That'll be an unpopular opinion, but so be it. In Pve, they are in a good spot at the moment. Maybe a class dot would be a nice addition. Maybe they other morph of crippling grasp (nobody uses it) would be nice if the root was removed (otherwise a root in pvp for them would be too much).

Magica nightblade has for a long time been my favourite class in Pvp. It was lackluster for a light time, but I finally feel it's in a good spot. Destro resto or dw/2h resto, they can be really good IF you understand the class. They have great capabilities if you know what you're doing.

The syphoning changes hit NB a lot more than the other classes sustain tools in Morrowind imo though. I absolutely loved my saptank in Pve. It was the most fun you could have on a tank by a million miles. Completely self sustain and do damage was great. When not many people could do ICP and WGT, I made a saptank which could tank then easy without a healer, enabling 3 do with a self heal in the dungeon, making it easier. It was sort of a selfish tank (although funnel and path offered healing) but it added damage and don't need any healing. On reflection, it was probably op, but I'm still salty they killed it. Now you have to spec so much in sustain, you drop all damage and a lot of healing. So not it's a completely selfish tank, so may as well use something that bring something to the group.

I honestly think the classes in PvP are the most balanced they've been in a while. Previous patches, I could be playing clas and came across class b. No matter how bad he was, I had to work hard to kill him because of his class. I don't find it to be as much anymore. Some things need tweaking, but everything can do pretty good in the right situations.