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Ebony Skin Doesn't Hide Vampirism.

TheValkyn
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Update:
After you buy the Spiderkith reskin it will show properly on your character even with vampirism.

As every good skin should this one does not. Is there a fix coming for it? Skins are the only way (other than staying indoors) to make vampirism tolerable on a style level.

Thanks.

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  • Lichbourne90
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    How bad does it look? May be a deal breaker for a lot of people....
  • MarzAttakz
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    Yes please post a screenshot if you can.

    I was seriously considering purchasing it but if that's the case I'm not going to.
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  • Lichbourne90
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno can you clarify if this is intended or a bug please?
  • TheValkyn
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    @MarzAttakz Updated the OP with a screenshot.
  • Mauin
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    It hides the vampirism for me. The preview shows incorrectly on vampire characters, for some reason.

    Here's one of my vampires without the skin:
    z8xYB2t.jpg

    Here's the same character with the skin:
    oxaNhNH.jpg

    And here's the Crown Store preview:
    jOPmrS8.jpg
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:

    QSjBbSt.jpg

    This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

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  • Lichbourne90
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    Thanks for clearing this up!
  • TheValkyn
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    @RaddlemanNumber7 @Mauin That's great. I was holding off buying it if the preview was true but that does look nicer. It is still a reskin of Spiderkith which is pretty damn lazy.

    Thanks
    Edited by TheValkyn on August 10, 2017 3:40PM
  • Beardimus
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    In my view, skins should never hide Vampire completely anyway. If yer Vamp, you should look like a Vamp, simple. So skins should be a hybrid middle ground on a vamp I say.

    If I care enough about look over function ill cure my toon..
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  • DocFrost72
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    In my view, skins should never hide Vampire completely anyway. If yer Vamp, you should look like a Vamp, simple. So skins should be a hybrid middle ground on a vamp I say.

    If I care enough about look over function ill cure my toon..

    At the risk of derailing the thread, ESO vamps look mortal when well fed.

    On topic: If we could fix the preview bug, that'd help me determine whether or not I buy it.
    Edited by DocFrost72 on August 10, 2017 3:54PM
  • Balsagna
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    Looks like Powder stayed in the bathtub too long.
  • Ser Lobo
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    In my view, skins should never hide Vampire completely anyway. If yer Vamp, you should look like a Vamp, simple. So skins should be a hybrid middle ground on a vamp I say.

    If I care enough about look over function ill cure my toon..

    At the risk of derailing the thread, ESO vamps look mortal when well fed.

    On topic: If we could fix the preview bug, that'd help me determine whether or not I buy it.

    Shouldn't it be the other way around if your a predator. At stage 4, you should look more human to make it easier to get prey, and freshly fed you should look grotesque.

    Of course, where white skin is concerned, stage 1 vampires would look more healthy and regular (kinda like a sick person after a blood transfusion) after just eating.

    Definitely derailing the thread a little, sorry. And definitely an old argument even unrelated to ESO.
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    I was looking forward to it but I've seen the previews and I don't like it at all
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    Ser Lobo wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    In my view, skins should never hide Vampire completely anyway. If yer Vamp, you should look like a Vamp, simple. So skins should be a hybrid middle ground on a vamp I say.

    If I care enough about look over function ill cure my toon..

    At the risk of derailing the thread, ESO vamps look mortal when well fed.

    On topic: If we could fix the preview bug, that'd help me determine whether or not I buy it.

    Shouldn't it be the other way around if your a predator. At stage 4, you should look more human to make it easier to get prey, and freshly fed you should look grotesque.

    Of course, where white skin is concerned, stage 1 vampires would look more healthy and regular (kinda like a sick person after a blood transfusion) after just eating.

    Definitely derailing the thread a little, sorry. And definitely an old argument even unrelated to ESO.

    In the elder scrolls lore, vampires gain power when they starve themselves. That is what helps them feed, and is one strategy. That is why your vamp skills cost less in ESO as you degrade in appearance.

    The other method to vampire survival is to eliminate your weaknesses (less vulnerable to fire at "well fed" stages) and to blend into society. Cloak and dagger if you will. This has been true in my entire TES experience (which amounts to skyrim and ESO, so grain of salt xD).

    And yeah, apologies for thread derailment. The statement just kinda tosses out lore from the series.

    On topic: Not gunna get this skin. May get the red lava skin.
  • ZOS_MattL
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    The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:

    QSjBbSt.jpg

    This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

    Hey there,
    Could you post this screenshot on the bug forum? Because if this is true it is not intended to show the wrong preview and needs to be fixed.
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  • AlMcFly
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    At the risk of derailing the thread, ESO vamps look mortal when well fed.

    Dude...please just don't start. You knew what was going to happen and you wrote it anyway.
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    ZOS_MattL wrote: »
    The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:

    QSjBbSt.jpg

    This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

    Hey there,
    Could you post this screenshot on the bug forum? Because if this is true it is not intended to show the wrong preview and needs to be fixed.
    Thanks,
    Matt

    Done
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  • josiahva
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    Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.
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    ZOS_MattL wrote: »
    The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:

    QSjBbSt.jpg

    This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

    Hey there,
    Could you post this screenshot on the bug forum? Because if this is true it is not intended to show the wrong preview and needs to be fixed.
    Thanks,
    Matt

    Done

    Thank you!
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  • Mojmir
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    josiahva wrote: »
    Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

    This
  • SSlarg
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    c'mon you have to admit vampirism makes one a little too pale.

    that aside I like looking "vampish" if you will,

    I'd prefer to look a bit more monstrous at stage 4.
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  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    Thanks all, we're looking into this. The screenshots have been very helpful!
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  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    Mauin wrote: »
    It hides the vampirism for me. The preview shows incorrectly on vampire characters, for some reason.

    Here's one of my vampires without the skin:
    z8xYB2t.jpg

    Here's the same character with the skin:
    oxaNhNH.jpg

    And here's the Crown Store preview:
    jOPmrS8.jpg

    What rank Vampirism is your character @Mauin?
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  • Koolio
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    Wait I can get Mind Shriven Vampire again I'm so happy.
    Don't change this like you did the last time I bought a skin.
    Edited by Koolio on August 10, 2017 5:17PM
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    josiahva wrote: »
    Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.
    Skyrim vampires are not all hideous. I guess you forgot about Serana?
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    Edited by SydneyGrey on August 10, 2017 5:22PM
  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    Koolio wrote: »
    Wait I can get Mind Shriven Vampire again I'm so happy.
    Don't change this like you did the last time I bought a skin.

    If there is a bug, we will need to fix it @Koolio. We're currently investigating. Right now, it looks like the issue may be with the Crown Store preview and not the Skin itself.
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  • Banana
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    It doesnt help. Ya still look hideous
  • AuraNebula
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    josiahva wrote: »
    Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

    Most people don't choose to be a vampire just for the sake of being a vampire. We do it for the passives. With recovery being as it is now it's basically necessary for a lot of classes. A lot of us spent time making our characters look nice, and also building our characters up to be effective in terms of dps, healing, or tanking. So yes we have to sacrifice our good looks in order to be more effective in our roles, and just curing ourselves isn't an option most of us will use. So yes making vampirism not as hideous would be a nice change.
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    Koolio wrote: »
    Wait I can get Mind Shriven Vampire again I'm so happy.
    Don't change this like you did the last time I bought a skin.

    If there is a bug, we will need to fix it @Koolio. We're currently investigating. Right now, it looks like the issue may be with the Crown Store preview and not the Skin itself.

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Hi Jessica, while you're at it, could you please run a simple idea to address the plethora of issues around vampirism, skin markings and tattoos past your modelling and texture team?

    Could they please do an in-house test and change the stacking order of the texture channels to:
    • base skin
    • vampire skin
    • tattoos
    • markings

    Thanks in advance.
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