Ebony Skin Doesn't Hide Vampirism.

Koolio

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Wait I can get Mind Shriven Vampire again I'm so happy.
Don't change this like you did the last time I bought a skin.

If there is a bug, we will need to fix it @Koolio. We're currently investigating. Right now, it looks like the issue may be with the Crown Store preview and not the Skin itself.

On the bug fixing note Mind taking a look here

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4411288#Comment_4411288

Back to the subject on hand.

kichwas

Purple-Grey is not what I think of when I read' ebony'.

I came into this thread thinking there was a way to get every race to have the skin tone of my avatar there, and of my redguard... thinking... oooo /win.

But instead of Stevie Wonder Ebony , I got Purple Rain and Prince.

Can't say which is better - but they're pretty different.

sevomd69

What about the people who bought the skin thinking it would hide vamp... as it showed in the preview? Do they get a refund... because you know... false advertising and all...

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Anne_Firehawk

While on it, make the Linchal Grand Manor available for Gold please, as it should be. Too much greed is not healthy.

Koolio

sevomd69 wrote: »

What about the people who bought the skin thinking it would hide vamp... as it showed in the preview? Do they get a refund... because you know... false advertising and all...

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

What about people who bought the mind shriven skin with the preview showing it mixed together really well with vampire only for them to change it later with no reasoning.

Mauin

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

What rank Vampirism is your character @Mauin?

Sorry, I was AFK for a while. He is stage 4.

rotaugen454

Is there a hat that looks like a large horn on your head? I have a vampire character idea that would go well with this skin if there is a hat like that.

starkerealm

ZOS_MattL wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:



This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

Hey there,
Could you post this screenshot on the bug forum? Because if this is true it is not intended to show the wrong preview and needs to be fixed.
Thanks,
Matt

@ZOS_MattL, this is a general bug with crown previews in general. The preview system supports stacking, in ways that's not possible for a player to actually replicate. For example: The Draugr polymorph (before it was removed) would display worn tattoos on its arms and face. Now, the actual polymorph doesn't, somewhat obviously.

Thing is, skins used to work this way back before the Dark Brotherhood release. There was a distinct visual appearance to the MIndshriven skin if you wore it on a vampire. (The skin would go shriven, but the eyes would become bright red.) It was actually quite striking, and kinda sad that it's no longer in the game.

starkerealm

kichwas wrote: »

Purple-Grey is not what I think of when I read' ebony'.

I came into this thread thinking there was a way to get every race to have the skin tone of my avatar there, and of my redguard... thinking... oooo /win.

But instead of Stevie Wonder Ebony , I got Purple Rain and Prince.

Can't say which is better - but they're pretty different.

At the risk of stating the obvious... The skin is from a quest on Vvardenfell.

An alchemist developed a concoction to convert flesh to ebony. (As in the volcanic glass used as a weapon and armor material on Tamriel.) The goal was to turn rock into Ebony, so that it could be sold, but mining the miners seemed a profitable enough alternative.

DocFrost72

AlMcFly wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

At the risk of derailing the thread, ESO vamps look mortal when well fed.

Dude...please just don't start. You knew what was going to happen and you wrote it anyway.

@AlMcFly Wanna lay into this one too, or just views you disagree with?

josiahva wrote: »

Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

On the topic of the above quote, it is only a bug with the preview of a skin. No need to go on a rant.

AlMcFly

DocFrost72 wrote: »

AlMcFly wrote: »

Dude...please just don't start. You knew what was going to happen and you wrote it anyway.

@AlMcFly Wanna lay into this one too, or just views you disagree with?

I'd rather not give my opinion about a topic you knew was extremely controversial right now and bound to derail OP's unrelated topic. The fact that you're trying to continue this derailment, leads me to believe your goal is derailment. This voids any and all fake aprehension you displayed when originally bringing it up, showing your disingenuousness.

ofSunhold

josiahva wrote: »

Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

You know what would stop the complaining? If ZOS gave them some aesthetic options.

As a skill line it's become nearly-mandatory for some specs. They're not in it for the RP, and they have a valid point about how ridiculous vampirism looks. They'll stop bringing it up when they have better options.

And I'll be glad too. I don't have any vamp characters, but there are so many dropped-in-flour ill-looking people everywhere now. Too much sameness.

ecru

ofSunhold wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

You know what would stop the complaining? If ZOS gave them some aesthetic options.

As a skill line it's become nearly-mandatory for some specs. They're not in it for the RP, and they have a valid point about how ridiculous vampirism looks. They'll stop bringing it up when they have better options.

And I'll be glad too. I don't have any vamp characters, but there are so many dropped-in-flour ill-looking people everywhere now. Too much sameness.

Yeah the fact that every other person is a vampire these days is pretty ridiculous. It ruins a lot of the diversity you would otherwise see between people's characters.

Koolio

starkerealm wrote: »

ZOS_MattL wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:



This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

Hey there,
Could you post this screenshot on the bug forum? Because if this is true it is not intended to show the wrong preview and needs to be fixed.
Thanks,
Matt

@ZOS_MattL, this is a general bug with crown previews in general. The preview system supports stacking, in ways that's not possible for a player to actually replicate. For example: The Draugr polymorph (before it was removed) would display worn tattoos on its arms and face. Now, the actual polymorph doesn't, somewhat obviously.

Thing is, skins used to work this way back before the Dark Brotherhood release. There was a distinct visual appearance to the MIndshriven skin if you wore it on a vampire. (The skin would go shriven, but the eyes would become bright red.) It was actually quite striking, and kinda sad that it's no longer in the game.

Maybe this will bring Vampshriven back. I would literally jump for joy.

code65536

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom As I posted in the thread in Bug Reports, this is entirely a bug with the Preview function.

Any skin that you equip in-game disables the vampirism effects before applying the skin effect.

The preview function does not disable the vampirism effect before applying the skin effect.

So that results in the discrepancy between the preview and what people get in-game if someone is a vampire.

If someone is not a vampire, there is no discrepancy.

Furthermore, if someone is a vampire and already has an in-game skin applied, there is no discrepancy because the existing skin has disabled the vampirism effect, so the preview works as intended.

TL;DR: This is a bug in the Preview function that is triggered when a vampire (of any stage) who is not currently wearing another skin in-game previews a skin from the store.

SlayerSyrena

I bought the new skin and applied it to my Stage 1 vampire and it looked just as intended (purple skin, purple eyes). Haven't tried it on stage 4 however.

Orjix

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

Most people don't choose to be a vampire just for the sake of being a vampire. We do it for the passives. With recovery being as it is now it's basically necessary for a lot of classes. A lot of us spent time making our characters look nice, and also building our characters up to be effective in terms of dps, healing, or tanking. So yes we have to sacrifice our good looks in order to be more effective in our roles, and just curing ourselves isn't an option most of us will use. So yes making vampirism not as hideous would be a nice change.

amen good sir, amen

josiahva

Princessrhaenyra wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

Honestly, I am sick of people complaining about how vampirism looks. You CHOSE to be a vampire....take the good with the bad. You think vampires are ugly in this game? THEN GET CURED. They are nothing NEARLY as hideous as they are in Skyrim. You think vampirism is something that should be all upside and no downside? Its a DISEASE people...a rather disfiguring one at that, get over it or get cured.

Most people don't choose to be a vampire just for the sake of being a vampire. We do it for the passives. With recovery being as it is now it's basically necessary for a lot of classes. A lot of us spent time making our characters look nice, and also building our characters up to be effective in terms of dps, healing, or tanking. So yes we have to sacrifice our good looks in order to be more effective in our roles, and just curing ourselves isn't an option most of us will use. So yes making vampirism not as hideous would be a nice change.

Yes, I understand, I use vamp on just about every toon I have for the passives...but its still a disease that makes me hideous, I accept this downside, just like I accept the health recovery and fire weakness downsides. If you care about how your toon looks, get cured. Do you want the passives or do you want to be pretty? Make your choice.

bloodthirstyvampire

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:



This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

Dark souls cross over lol

starkerealm

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:



This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

Dark souls cross over lol

"Oh chosen undead, please stop leaping in place and killing chickens like a psychopath."

Lichbourne90

MarzAttakz wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Wait I can get Mind Shriven Vampire again I'm so happy.
Don't change this like you did the last time I bought a skin.

If there is a bug, we will need to fix it @Koolio. We're currently investigating. Right now, it looks like the issue may be with the Crown Store preview and not the Skin itself.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi Jessica, while you're at it, could you please run a simple idea to address the plethora of issues around vampirism, skin markings and tattoos past your modelling and texture team?

Could they please do an in-house test and change the stacking order of the texture channels to:

• base skin
• vampire skin
• tattoos
• markings

Thanks in advance.

Yes please!!! Its so frustrating not being able to see my tattoos

Inarre

I am glad to know about the difference from the preview so thank you... but im interested to know if it will be changed to hide vampirism.

bloodthirstyvampire

starkerealm wrote: »

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The preview and the actual skin do not look anything like the same. See below:



This is a dunmer stage 4 vampire. Actual affect of the skin in the left hand shot, preview in the right hand shot.

Dark souls cross over lol

"Oh chosen undead, please stop leaping in place and killing chickens like a psychopath."

C'mon he does look a lil bit like a fully hollowed chosen undead

JRCandeias

I had the same issue while previewing the skin on my Dunmer but when I changed to my Argonian it worked just fine so I bought it. ^^

Both vampire Stage 4.

saf227_ESO

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Wait I can get Mind Shriven Vampire again I'm so happy.
Don't change this like you did the last time I bought a skin.

If there is a bug, we will need to fix it @Koolio. We're currently investigating. Right now, it looks like the issue may be with the Crown Store preview and not the Skin itself.

No, no, no, no. Look at those 2 pics. The preview is what we wanted & expected. Fix the skin. Fix the skin. Either that or offer a refund to people who bought expecting it to look like it did in the preview (y'know, cool - as opposed to how it came out).

Cocorocho

Damn ZOS is quite fast at responding to crown store related problems

Brutusmax1mus

@ZOS_GinaBruno Why can't i equip a crown store item, masters blind fold, with this and the laurel crown?

Erris

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Why can't i equip a crown store item, masters blind fold, with this and the laurel crown?

No hiding from your own ugly!

Morgul667

I was excited about this skin but it looks badddddd

MarzAttakz

Cocorocho wrote: »

Damn ZOS is quite fast at responding to crown store related problems

I know right?