Due to the lot of changes, I'll reset the Lorebooks db for this update. So pins should be fixed with new discoveries after a week or two after next db launch. I'll remove old pins after I'll have enought data.

And no, I don't want people reporting incorrect pins, because reports are 95% incorrect, it's a huge waste of time for me.

LazyTJ_92 wrote: »

I could really use some help from someone with addons (i'm on console).

I've started long time ago a project of pushing SkyShards, Lorebooks and Destinations on a webserver with a google map.. I'll try to progress.

@thawks @Ayantir @Mix

"The Dawn of the Exalted Viper" (Skyreach Temple, Craglorn)

thawks wrote: »

This is a big pet peeve of mine. I want them all, dammit.
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RE: Dawn of the Exalted Viper: Is it possible to get this book by grouping with someone who has not completed the quest and porting into Skyreach Temple?
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FWIW, the chamber which contains the Eidetic document "The Dawn of the Exalted Viper" can be accessed via the delve Loth'Na Caverns. I discovered this while one of my characters was pursuing the quest UESP Online: The Gray Passage.

After entering the Caverns, proceed to the right when the character enters the main chamber (which has two levels). You should find a ramp to the left that leads to the upper level. Your character will probably encounter Visskar, the delve boss, and must kill him.

Just beyond the boss, to the right you will see a deep chasm, and a large door in the rock wall on the other side of it. It looks like it could be an entrance to a chamber of the delve (but it is not). On the same side as your character, there are four posts which have holders for stone shards.

If your character has the appropriate quest for Skyreach Temple (I don't recall the name!), then the holders will contain Welkyd stones. The voice of The Thief will tell you that the character must activate the four stones in the correct order, to create a bridge across the chasm to a rock platform in front of the large door in the wall on the other side.

Be forewarned: the bridge will exist until the door has been used. While it exists the character can cross the chasm to/from the rest of the Loth'Na Caverns delve. Once a character passes through that large door, the bridge vanishes and the activation stones are destroyed -- as the player will discover if the character subsequently exits the Skyreach Temple through it. So, be sure to read lorebooks, use the Skyshard, etc., that are in the delve before opening that door.

After your character uses the large door to enter Skyreach Temple, you should see "The Dawn of the Exalted Viper" on top of an object (?) immediately to the character's left. After reading the lorebook, the character can teleport out of the Skyreach Temple chamber to a WS, if the player chooses.

Of course, since the character has the appropriate quest for Skyreach Temple, most likely the chamber is not empty. Rather, an NPC named "Little Leaf" should be available, and the character can proceed to kill her. If the character wins, then The Thief opens a portal to The Star Gazers hall in Belkarth, where the character must rendezvous with The Thief for the quest reward.

(Note: my character did not use the portal, but teleported to a WS to continue The Gray Passage pilgrimage. On the Map afterward, a black inverted arrowhead was displayed on the Star Gazers hall in Belkarth, so my character went there, met with The Thief, and received the quest reward. For what it may be worth, my character had never entered Skyreach Temple via any other door at any time.)

Ayantir wrote: »

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And no, I don't want people reporting incorrect pins, because reports are 95% incorrect, it's a huge waste of time for me.
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Personally, I have never reported an "incorrect pin" because I assume that the Lorebooks add-on output is correct. However, the Library data -- for which ZOS is responsible -- evidently has various errors and omissions. As the old saying among programmers goes, "Garbage in, garbage out".

The design of a quest during the course of which a lorebook(s) becomes available, or a lorebook becomes available as a result of finishing a quest, has its own potential for errors omissions, and questionable decisions.

So, I would like to thank-you, Ayantir, for your time and effort in helping to make the ESO Lorebook feature a more functional part of the game for those of us who enjoy "collecting" and reading its books and documents of various kinds.

Going to assume this is from Live:)

manavortex wrote: »

Vvardenfell volumes:

• Wise Woman's Diary: still to be checked on PTS
• Teas and Tisanes for Aches and Pains: Fixed on PTS, in Suran beside Tilenra
• Seythen's Journal: Fixed on PTS 3.1.3: at the middle south edge of Kushtariri (the ruins just west of the land you are buying)
• Magister Otheri's Research Journal: I'll check for this on PTS
• Magister's Writ: Fixed on PTS, Magister Therana's Chambers
• Firuth's Writ: this is combined with the writ of endorsement, now called Firuth's Writ of Endorsement. I haven't located it after the quest yet...
• Chodala's Writings: in a tent in the red exile camp just west of Ald'ruhn wayshrine
• Barilzar's Hirelings: I'll check again on PTS...

Anyone got intel on those?

@Mix

Mix wrote: »

Copied from the Fixed list on the spreadsheet:

• Captain's Note: Mysteries and Clues: Firemoth Island, posted at docks (after Q: Breaking Through the Fog)

Which docks would this be? I can't seem to find it. (On PTS)

In your spreadsheet it says you don't know the location of 'Vosh Rahk Orders' yet.
After you have completed the quest, this can be found on the stone table to the left, as soon as you enter Paragon's Remembrance. But it doesn't glow, so it's hard to see.


@ZOS_GinaBruno
Please add 'Who Asked Them Here?' to the list, if it isn't too late. It's been just out of reach, mocking me.
(Should be able to get it in Arenthia, Reaper's March, during the quest 'The Colovian Occupation'.)

Mix wrote: »

@Daeymon I think you are looking for the warning sign inside the Lion's Den public dungeon. It should be posted outside either entrance to the "group event" Giant cave.

Sorry to necro this, but this piece of lore is a hold out for me. The provided location is not correct. The two notes outside each entrance of Giants Crush at the Lions Den are not this note. I honestly cannot find this one. I've spoken to many who have it, but none remember where they got it. Anyone able to help?

thawks wrote: »

@Daeymon

"Giant Warning" is found in Fulstrom Homestead, where the first heist of the Thieves Guild questline takes place. It cannot be visited again after quest completion but it may have a post-quest location somewhere in Abah's Landing.

I've had a look at the docks that you depart for that quest, as well as the thieves dens where you first meet the quest giver and nothing. Cannot find anything around Abah's Landing or the Thieves Guild either. So this might be a lorebook which becomes unavailable outside the quest instance.

4 people in this thread have asked for help regarding this book 'Healing Herbs Of Northwest Tamriel
Part of the The World and Its Creatures collection' It is part of a quest and is located between 2 walls in Rivenspire, at 47.63.

I double checked today on an alt, and did the quest and book was there and was readable and appeared in memory once read, so this is just an old bug on my older alts. Any chance this can be picked up by Zos please?

I personally cannot find :
- Daggerfall Market Shopping List (I read it during the quest but it's marked as not read)
- Rhanbiq's Notes (same as DMSL)
- Nahirah's Journal (same as DMSL & RN)
- Letter to an aldarch (its outside location has the light but the book is missing and inside one isn't accessible)
- Eyes of the Queen only (book is missing and I don't know if I read it during the quest)

Can someone help me to fix that pls ?

VanIliriagon wrote: »

- Eyes of the Queen only (book is missing and I don't know if I read it during the quest)

Not available postquest (or if you skipped it) but on PTS it is now available. So you'll have to wait a little bit longer I guess.

And again tonight, I died twice after getting into ADs Mnem gate, attempting to get "A Plea for the Elder Scrolls." It seems to be placed UNDER the podium, and no matter which way I look at it(or the one in my home faction, EP), it will not let me see it or read it. Is this a bug? or is there a quest that I am missing that I have to do to get it? What? PLEASE fix the book bugs. Please!?!

I did some extensive book searching and made my own list of unobtainable books.

Here we go:

Criminal Correspondence
Note from Khezuli's Contact - available for new characters on the table in the Mage's Guild (Haven, Grahtwood) during the "A little on the side" quest. For older characters that have finished the Haven questline, there's nothing there. As the city changes after the questline, the note is lost aswell. The quest isn't shareable. Grouping with someone who has the quest doesn't make it possible to enter the same (old) city. Both party members end up in different instances.

Diaries and Logs
Captain Black Sword's Journal - not available in game.

Final Words
Who Asked Them Here? - Available in Reaper's March, Arenthia in the Tower District. Same es with the Note from Khezuli's Contact, once the questline is completed, the city changes and the note gets blocked. Through exploits it is still possible to enter the Tower District. However, the note isn't there. Quests aren't shareable. Party members with the quest enter a different instance once they come close to the city.

Gold Coast Tomes
Secret Note / Soggy Note / Up High Note - All three notes are linked to "The Sweetroll Killer". However, they disappear once the quest has been completed. If you haven't read them, there is no way to get access to them anymore. It's possible to miss them when you're doing the quest with friends, as what they read counts for you. Quest isn't shareable. Being in party with people that have the quest does not make the notes spawn for you.

Hearts and Flowers
Letter to Sonya - Only available to new characters that haven't completed the quest "Torn Asunder" yet. For older characters, there's an empty spot. There is another book there, "Hadmal's Journal, Page 3". This one is available to both new and old characters. The quest isn't shareable. Being in party with people that have the quest does not make the letter spawn for you.

Houses, Shops, and Trade
Valyia's Cargo Manifest - Most mentioned book in this thread, but I'll mention it again. Used to be available long time ago, south of Obsidian Gorge, Deshaan. One patch it was gone.

Letters and Missives
Invitation to Morrowind - Shame on you, ZOS! How can the main book of your "expansion" be bugged? Shame! Anyway, you receive this book by mail when you purchase Morrowind. However, if you take your quest from Collections (or somewhere else) instead and complete it, you can't use it anymore. It's in my inventory, saying "Use to add to lore library", but when I do, nothing happens. C'mon, really?

Notes and Memos
Eyes of the Queen Only - bug well known. Will be fixed next DLC.
Note from Commander Derre - Was available in The Lion's Den, The Rift long time ago. Gone after a patch. Will be fixed next DLC.
Note from Jeegren - bug well known. Will be fixed next DLC.
Plea to Maximinus - probably not available in game. Went on hardcore book-searching tour through whole Cyrodiil multiple times with different groups. Maximinus' answer to this note, An Irate Employer, is available though.
Snowmead's Missive - this note starts the quest "Labor Dispute". However, it is possible to start that quest directly by running into Eitaki Snowmead, which leads to the note's disappearance. Once the quest is completed, the note is gone forever.

Orsinium Archive
Agolas's Journal - A book on a table in Orsinium that gives you the "One Ugly Mug" quest. However, you can also take the quest directly at Zabani in the Scarp Keep. And since it's ZOS responsible for it, of course the book disappears if you do, without any possibility to get it later.

Research Notes
Adainaz's Journal - Should be available in Darkshade II, but it's not.

The Devoted and the Deranged
Worship in Fanacas - used to be available long time ago in Fanacas, Cyrodiil, right next to the boss, Mabrel Pierel. One patch it was gone.

Vvardenfell Vvolumes (spelling intended?)
Too many books (over 15) missing, didn't have time to search it thoroughly.

Words of the Poets
A Less Rude Song - not available in game.

Wrothgar Writings
Letter from a Prison Guard - Should be available in the Fharun Prison during main quest. If you missed it, there is no way to get it anymore. Quest isn't shareable. Being in party with someone who has the quest does still not allow you to enter the prison. Only players with an active quest can.
Torug at the Summit, Complete Translation - this book appears during the Sorrow's Kiss quest. Guess what happens when you finish the quest without reading the book? Yeah, exactly. ZOS happens.

@ZOS_GinaBruno There you go. Clean, tested, explained. Just need to implement it. Put an intern there for 20 minutes.

@Mix @Ayantir @Gina_Bruno
Deshaan (Ebonheart Pact)

One of my characters has found and read all lorebooks for which the Lorebooks add-on displays a filter pin on the Map of Deshaan (for both Shalidor's Library and the Eidetic Memory Library, respectively) excepting the following four:

• In Daedric Cults: "A Tally of Villagers" [Dungeon]
• In Plots & Schemes: "No Praise for False Gods" [Dungeon]
  Neither of these are at the locations shown by the Eidetic filter pin on the Map, which are nowhere near any delve or dungeon in Deshaan. Both should probably be in the Quarantine Serk Catacombs, where there are two "pages" laying on the ground in one location (among several) which glow brightly, but an Interactive Prompt is not displayed for either one. A character must have a quest to enter the Quarantine area, then the Catacombs, unless the character has completed that quest previously. (The required quest is not shown by the lorebook library entries nor by the tooltips for the respective pins.)
  
• Handbills, Posters, and Decrees: "Tome of the Undaunted [signed]" [no location given in the Library entries] There is a pin for one of these at every Undaunted Guild site in each pact, but there is no Interactive Prompt displayed for any document at the site which has that title.
• Houses, Shops, and Trade: "Churasu's Alchemy Journal" is in NPC Churasu's home. Originally, my character could not enter the house. Now, the character can enter the house, but there is no lorebook to be found there.

If you want to see the screenshots, then please explain how I can post them within the messages I write, as others do, because the forum editing software -- as displayed by Firefox 54.0.1 -- does not enable me to do it. I can only add a URL which refers to another website such as Imgur.com.

Please, you don't have to tag me for every bug.

As said many times, I only manage to collect data and try to determine in what conditions a book had been read (locations, read from inventory, link with a quest, in dungeon, etc).

If a book is not here / not interactable / any other reasons, it's either your problem because you did not read the book while doing the quest and you should find another place where to find the book (so sorry, but i can't do anything for you...) , or it's the zos problem because there is a bug with interaction, book is only available while during a quest or any other reason. post here your issue for @ZOS_Something or use /bug ingame.

Screenshoting don't help *me* neither, the coords that everyone use is not the ones I use to determine locations, it's like you're trying to give location in a room for someone building a world map.

I'm simply not using the same coords. Plus I can't add data like this, because (as said multiple times) there Is a ton of hidden data which is needed and sent when you read a book.

If a book is not on your map, that's simply because no one ever read it or this place is particular and stripped by purpose.
Just wait that some EU user read the book..

Don't forget that there is thousands of users who contributes without even knowing. You're not alone, you're not ten, *you're a lot*
For Homestead, I had more than 1350 contributors.

If collecting 99% of books is doable with the help of the addon starting from level 1, don't even try without due to the amount of quests still problematic. And I won't even consider the 100%, it's simply impossible for now.


After, I'm actually at work, but I can say that :

Handbills, Posters, and Decrees: "Tome of the Undaunted [signed]" : Is in the undaunted enclaves, maybe not the one of your faction, personally I'm DC and I think it was the AD one where I did found that book. go check in capitals ?

Houses, Shops, and Trade: "Churasu's Alchemy Journal" is in NPC Churasu's home. : The book is certainly linked to a quest and the place phased. Because there is no dungeon, there should be an alternative version somewhere nearby the end of the quest .. after it depends of zos.

In Plots & Schemes: "No Praise for False Gods" [Dungeon] : If it's written dungeon, it's in the dungeon in the quarantaine zone. so, you'll need to read it while doing the quest. another zos problem.


And to add screenshots, the best way is to save your post, then edit it , you'll be able to add a picture. or use an online hosting website. net is plenty of them.


Stay cool in your achievement, consider that if a book is not here, you'll maybe need months in order to read them.

I had personnaly few bugs with few books, and I just waited half and a year in order to have the resolution of that bug, for some books, I still wait. like everyone here.

When I began playing in 2014, I knew nothing about the ESO Lorebook features, and paid no particular attention to finding and reading lorebooks or other documents. However, over the course of 2+ years, finding and reading "lorebooks" has become one of my favorite activities while I play ESO.

And I've sent countless in-game /bug reports with screenshots attached, about lorebooks that are missing or unavailable, and about other errors in the implementation, whether the design, of that ESO feature. Just when it seems that I've found every type of error that exists, I find another that I can't recall discovering before. Let's just say that the Customer Service people who review my reports and, perhaps, forward them to the developers, are probably very familiar with my player-name.