Do you have trouble using synergies?

Reorx_Holybeard · August 2017

Issues I have with synergies for a while now...

Small Activation Area -- If you and the synergy are both stationary it is usable but with both you and a moving effect it is very difficult to get the "X" to appear for long enough to press it.
Multiple Synergies -- If there are 2 or more synergies to choose from the game seems to give up and not display any of them. At least that is what it seems like as the synergy X pops up and then disappears forever.
Slow -- Even when you do get lucky to activate one it seems to actually take several seconds to activate making it hard to know if you've actually activated it or not. This is made worse when the server itself is laggy (i.e., full PVP campaigns).
API -- The API itself doesn't permit add-ons to improve on the synergy selection since only one synergy is ever made available even if there are multiple abilities to choose from. At the very least you'd want something like GetNumSynergies() and GetSynergyInfo(index) functions.

As a result of all these issues you are left spamming X and hoping for the best or just outright not bothering at all. It is especially difficult in cases where you want to ignore specific synergies and activate certain ones (like leaving Shards for the tank but activating DPS related ones).

ollom · August 2017

Yes. So hard to make these work, which is a shame, since conceptually they are one of the best and most interesting bits in this game.

ccfeeling · August 2017

Just a gimmick , dont rely

MLGProPlayer · August 2017

Generally they work, but sometimes if someone else picks it up, the synergy will still be there (due to lag I guess) but you can't pick it up. The same way a resource node is still in the game world even if someone has already claimed it.

the_Beard · August 2017

Paulington wrote: »

What are synergies? Not seen one in months.

Synergies are broken, utterly 100% garbage and have been since the VMOL PTS last year. Something was changed and now only one person gets a synergy prompt, so if a ball goes through the group only one person has that synergy, but what if they don't need it?

So now our healers are forced to spam 4-6 balls into a group of people and even then you still don't get synergies.

Even worse is that you will be using an ability and see the synergy prompt, ability stops and the prompt is gone. Use the ability and it pops back only to disappear again, it is infuriating and it's been the bane of end-game PvE for a long time and also why sets like Twilight Remedy/Moondancer aren't used for their five piece bonuses as synergies are unreliable.

Sorry for the rage rant, but this has been broken for so long and not even a whisper of a fix. Calm typing now...

This has been exactly my experience as well, same goes for literally everyone I've raided with in the past year plus. The timeframe seems pretty accurate too, and the bug seems to have introduced itself either around the release of thieves guild, or at least worsened with its release.

It is also worth noting that in the event where I do see a synergy prompt, it disappears, and reappears usually while casting a skill, or while channeling a destro staff attack. For instance, I can be in the middle of a lightning staff heavy attack channel to get back resources, cancel said heavy attack to grab an orb (to get resources), and the very second I cancel my attack, the synergy disappears. It's not just a visual bug either, as hitting 'x' still does not grant the synergy. I can go back to doing a staff channel, or even a skill on my bar, and the synergy prompt will randomly re-appear. This cycle just repeats itself until I am lucky enough to grab the synergy before it disappears.

Lastly, the cooldown also appears to be broken at times. I can be in the middle of a raid boss fight, having not grabbed a synergy in minutes, and never get a prompt at all, as if I had just grabbed one seconds ago or something.

sekou_trayvond · August 2017

There was an update somewhere along the line where synergies became inherently more difficult to activate.

That this occurred, in a group oriented game, was mind boggling to me.

(Good to see that lurk up above, btw)

bottleofsyrup · August 2017

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

AcadianPaladin · August 2017

I'm reading this thread with great interest. As a healer, I have to rely on others for feedback when it comes to synergy usage. My priority is ensuring my tank has regular access to shards - and I get the impression that shards is one of the easier synergies to 'catch'. I wish there were more passive benefits I could pass out like EleDrain's magicka steal and Purify's healing that didn't require those I'm supporting to interrupt what they're doing to (hopefully) grab a synergy. I'd love it if there was a 'stamina steal' passive effect I could curse a boss with to more easily push stamina to my tank. Or really, anything to passively help tanks with stamina.

max_only · August 2017

As a healer I've been really trying to catch Talons and Inner Fire but it's not worth it in most pugs. Just keeping the red-circle-dancers alive is all I can do sometimes.

As a tank... it's rare that I have a healer in the group that provides resources. It feels like I haven't had a shard or orb since Morrowind so I've been carrying Rkugamz everywhere... but I have had plenty of Budding Seeds... of only it gave me something back. Anything at all lol

GreenSoup2HoT · August 2017

I wish i could use my own synergies. The synergy for ground based ultimates are amazing but i cant use them if i put them down

Marto · August 2017

I honestly wonder how ZOS can even fix this issue.

Perhaps some sort of visual aid? A pillar of light of a specific color that appears when a synergy is avaliable, and appears where you need to stand to activate it.

Anlace · August 2017

I don't even try anymore. Luckily I'm never in a situation where they're really vital. I miss the synergy from Ritual of Cleansing though, that one is pretty nice.

thatlaurachick wrote: »

I'm a tank, pulling ALL the synergies is part of my job.

2- The Y+B for controller is ridiculous. I'm pretty good and mashing it now, but it would be so much easier if gamepad mode allowed remaps (without using Xpadder).

You can remap it. Esc > Controls > Secondary Bindings. I had it bound to LS, which meant I had to remap sprint, but it was a lot better than any two-button mash.

Drummerx04 · August 2017

Paulington wrote: »

What are synergies? Not seen one in months.

Synergies are broken, utterly 100% garbage and have been since the VMOL PTS last year. Something was changed and now only one person gets a synergy prompt, so if a ball goes through the group only one person has that synergy, but what if they don't need it?

So now our healers are forced to spam 4-6 balls into a group of people and even then you still don't get synergies.

Even worse is that you will be using an ability and see the synergy prompt, ability stops and the prompt is gone. Use the ability and it pops back only to disappear again, it is infuriating and it's been the bane of end-game PvE for a long time and also why sets like Twilight Remedy/Moondancer aren't used for their five piece bonuses as synergies are unreliable.

Sorry for the rage rant, but this has been broken for so long and not even a whisper of a fix. Calm typing now...

This is exactly my experience. In the middle of a rotation a synergy pops up and CANCEL EVERYTHING FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I NEED TO PRESS IT... and it's gone. AND IT'S BACK. just kidding, NO WAIT, still nothing. There it is again! Nevermind, wrong again.

F**K it I'm not chasing these orbs any more.

Or my personal favorite... Press "x" to activate dingorbsdingconduitdingimpaledingconduitdinggravity crushdingorbs... ON AND ON AND ON AND ON
Like what am I even trying to activate, I just want that orb to give me enough magicka to cast 2 more skills.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

Please save us from this torment Lambert.

Pele · August 2017

I have trouble hitting synergies because I'm always moving in combat. Also, most synergies seem to have small activation areas which make them hard to use even when you're stationary - like that damn sunshine ball thingy that my healer likes to throw down.

Teridaxus · August 2017

I always feel me bad for the healer when his orbs fly past me while either lag or some other synergies like from liquid lighting block me from using it.

max_only · August 2017

Pele wrote: »

I have trouble hitting synergies because I'm always moving in combat. Also, most synergies seem to have small activation areas which make them hard to use even when you're stationary - like that damn sunshine ball thingy that my healer likes to throw down.

Solar Prison? lol that's their big bada boom damage ult. Activating its synergy gives even more badaboom. I've switched to Meteor because it needs fewer ultimate points so I can cast it more often

YoWombat · August 2017

They could make it so if you get a synergy prompt at any point, it "sticks" to you, and gives you say a 5 second window to activate, no matter where you are standing. If it's a single activation synergy and someone else who is also tagged activates it first, it is removed from your screen.

Chufu · August 2017

yes we have this problem since a long time and it is really disappointing when you use a set like "moondancer" and you can't grab a synergie when needed.

Sometimes I stand in a spear and it tooks 3-6 seconds to grab it, because X appears, then disappears, then appears....

And the orbs....yeah sometimes I get it fast and sometimes I have to run for it and lose seconds.

To put it in a nutshell: My rotation get's sometimes really broken, when I try to use synergies although I stand perfectly for them. And bad rotation = bad DPS = annoying raid = ... you can imagine

KeiruNicrom · August 2017

Trying to use a synergy isnt an issue most of the time. Trying to use the correct synergy is. If a tank is trying to get shards but other synergy creating abilities are being used the tank may get a random purify or talons or something. It is quite annoying

Integral1900 · August 2017

No matter how much I try I can't hit the ones that move, even when I'm certain I was in the activation window

Even if the dam things don't move it sometimes takes a couple of presses, those moving orb things may as well not exist for me

Royaji · August 2017

I rarely have issues with synergies as a tank. The only exception are fights where the whole group is stacked in front of the boss. If I turn the boss around and my group positions behind him I will have synergies all day long. Seems like it all comes down to the issue of "only one person can see the synergy". If you have a lot of people in synergy's radius it will keep cycling between them showing up for 0.3 seconds and moving to the next person immediately after that.

Zer0oo · August 2017

Just do more heavy attacks, they are so much fun ......

paulsimonps · August 2017

Problems I have with synergies is that it only shows it for one person at any given time. The reason we are having such an issue using Necrotic orb for example is that it only shows it to the closest person to the center of its radius, but since its constantly moving, its changing where that is. And so it swaps between us constantly and makes it really difficult to use. This goes for all synergies.

It would be a life saver if we would be allowed to all see the synergy we are in range of and simply make it take away the promt if one of us uses it. This would make it easier for not only DPSs but Tanks as well, and that would be in PvP and PvE.

So please, make it show the synergy for everyone that is in range of it.

Septimus_Magna · August 2017

It helps if you bind the synergy key to mousewheel up and down. Still its hard to reliably active them if you're moving around.

AcadianPaladin · August 2017

How to fix? Heck, just have the synergy automatically activate for all within its range - no action required by the recipient(s). If that turns out to be too powerful (I shouldn't think so), the synergies could be *cough* balanced tweaked a bit.

Epona222 · August 2017

Yes, quite often I will be hammering the X key and nothing is happening.

The other issue is that if there are 2 possible synergies to activate at any given time, the x prompt flickers between the 2 - I may want to activate Conduit, but not activate Shards (if I have sufficient resources I would rather leave that for someone who needs a boost to activate the synergy) but it is impossible to pick which one to activate, just hope that while hammering X key *something* happens.

Tyrobag · August 2017

The only synergy I really have an issue with is orbs. It appears on your screen for about half a second then disappears, even if it is currently passing through you.

Mojmir · August 2017

Not sure if possible,add another square to the bar just for synergies,keep it greyed out til it's rdy.when it is,have it animate like resolve/ultimate/drags. default key would be 6.

aaisoaho · August 2017

How I try to use synergies:
1. I'm doing my rotation
2. I see a synergy promt
3. I press X
4. I press X X X X X
5. No synergies activated, lost 2-3 seconds of my rotation

WeyounTM · August 2017

I try to "catch" all the synergies I can get ahold of, but alas the prompt only seems to appear for split seconds and then disappears. It is annoying, I agree.

The same thing can be said about the revive prompt for rezzing dead team mates. You literally have only one milimeter to get the prompt, if you move you can try again. It would be much easier if the body would be highlighted and you could use the....wait for it...."use" key for interacting with objects instead of the interact with player button. Because actually, this dead body is now an object not a player ;-)