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Do you have trouble using synergies?

Tasear
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This has bothered me for a bit since I use twlight remedy set. So as all potential people I could be healing. I ask you this.

Do you have trouble using synergies? 444 votes

Yes
83% 369 votes
No
9% 43 votes
I don't bother
3% 15 votes
They are for tank
0% 3 votes
Other
3% 14 votes
  • Krayzie
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    On Xbox when there's other people around ill stand there and smash the synergy nothing will happen or I cannot align myself properly to use it and it'll dissapear everytime I go to activate it
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  • Nebthet78
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    Krayzie wrote: »
    On Xbox when there's other people around ill stand there and smash the synergy nothing will happen or I cannot align myself properly to use it and it'll dissapear everytime I go to activate it

    This happens to me on PC a lot, especially when there is a little bit of lag.
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  • HorrorShow
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    With blade of woe I am starting to think mashing it multiple times causes it to cancel partway through the animation.

    Also it is super wonky when trying to use it in third person compared to first person.
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  • JamieAubrey
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    I dont have trouble but sometimes I miss a few, bind it to mouse wheel UP/Down so you just scroll wheel while attacking etc
  • Tasear
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    Injecting on my own poll seems like we can't weave in synergies or something if we are in the middle of an attack or so are my thoughts this week. As such wanted to how others see the matter.
  • MissBizz
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    Certain synergies such as orbs I don't get the synergy most of the time, and when I do it's gone before I can even press the button.

    I also imagine @Paulington could share some thoughts on this. *grabs popcorn*
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  • Ilsabet
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    Like MissBizz said, I often don't even see the synergy prompt, and when it does pop up, I usually lose it if I don't hit it immediately, especially if I'm moving around. Considering that I usually like to see what I'm about to activate before I activate it, that second or two of hesitation usually means I don't get a synergy.

    It's also not helpful that if multiple things are around me with available synergies, only one will show up at any given time. I might not need shards right then, but I'd be happy to activate that conduit for some extra damage if only I had a choice.
  • Paulington
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    What are synergies? Not seen one in months.

    Synergies are broken, utterly 100% garbage and have been since the VMOL PTS last year. Something was changed and now only one person gets a synergy prompt, so if a ball goes through the group only one person has that synergy, but what if they don't need it?

    So now our healers are forced to spam 4-6 balls into a group of people and even then you still don't get synergies.

    Even worse is that you will be using an ability and see the synergy prompt, ability stops and the prompt is gone. Use the ability and it pops back only to disappear again, it is infuriating and it's been the bane of end-game PvE for a long time and also why sets like Twilight Remedy/Moondancer aren't used for their five piece bonuses as synergies are unreliable.

    Sorry for the rage rant, but this has been broken for so long and not even a whisper of a fix. Calm typing now...
  • lasertooth
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    Synergies are such a tease in this game.
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Yes, I would like to see the activation range increased for all of them.
  • starkerealm
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    HorrorShow wrote: »
    With blade of woe I am starting to think mashing it multiple times causes it to cancel partway through the animation.

    Also it is super wonky when trying to use it in third person compared to first person.

    You can start a blade of woe (or a normal power attack from stealth) without an actual line of sight. Get into the right position, and you can highlight the target, and if you're close enough, you can activate the synergy, but when the game actually checks, "hey, can you see this?" Your character goes, "nope," and the animation cancels.

    There's a specific spot in that Rivenspire delve with the undaunted daily, where you can get behind some crates, with a clean view of a sentry that your character can't see. You can then spam the blade of woe which will cancel about three frames into the animation. It's kinda hilarious, really.
  • Tasear
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    Paulington wrote: »
    What are synergies? Not seen one in months.

    Synergies are broken, utterly 100% garbage and have been since the VMOL PTS last year. Something was changed and now only one person gets a synergy prompt, so if a ball goes through the group only one person has that synergy, but what if they don't need it?

    So now our healers are forced to spam 4-6 balls into a group of people and even then you still don't get synergies.

    Even worse is that you will be using an ability and see the synergy prompt, ability stops and the prompt is gone. Use the ability and it pops back only to disappear again, it is infuriating and it's been the bane of end-game PvE for a long time and also why sets like Twilight Remedy/Moondancer aren't used for their five piece bonuses as synergies are unreliable.

    Sorry for the rage rant, but this has been broken for so long and not even a whisper of a fix. Calm typing now...

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  • Megabear
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    Synergy seems to only trigger when you use a skill and very small window of opportunity to trigger it. At times I have difficulty triggering it, other times I don't. I think it has a lot to do with which role I'm playing.
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    Broken synergies on healing and shield skills in particular are infuriating.
    There's been too many times a groupmate would have been fine if they had just had the synergy prompt....
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  • Saturn
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    Tasear wrote: »
    This has bothered me for a bit since I use twlight remedy set. So as all potential people I could be healing. I ask you this.

    Specifically issues with using the main synergy you want, i.e. Necrotic Orb for resources, because it's for some reason the last possible synergy (if you are standing inside 3-4 different synergies, which happens a lot in trials) and it has a synergy window of approximately .3 seconds or some ridiculous number. Basically it's long enough to see the prompt, but too short an amount of time to act upon it, and the synergy really only works if you have several orbs thrown at you in a row, also if you play with any kind of ping this issue is made even worse.
    There are also times where certain characters won't be able to synergise spear shards about 90% of the time for some unexplainable reason, it used to be really annoying on stamina toons before they changed necrotic orb.
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  • PlagueSD
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    Yes, I hate that you have to stand on a certain pixel and have your camera angle set perfectly to use a synergy. I forget the dungeon, but it makes that one fight in where you have to throw the goo to kill zombies damn near impossible. by the time I get the synergy to pop up, the mound has already exploded.
  • AlMcFly
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    I have zero trouble using Synergies.

    HOWEVER as a healer, I almost NEVER see pug teammates activating synergies. It's almost like they don't know they exist.

    Edited by AlMcFly on August 4, 2017 9:35PM
  • dsalter
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    a combo of dont try and issues, most of them require you to go super close to trigger them
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  • Thogard
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    I just don't even try anymore. Synergies only work when I don't need them. When I need them they spam my ears with that obnoxious sound (I guess I'm toggling in and out of range?) and then when I hit the button it doesn't work...
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  • bottleofsyrup
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  • kimaeril
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    I don't always use them, but when I do I don't have a problem.
  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    I'm a tank, pulling ALL the synergies is part of my job.

    1- The flashing of synergies activation is annoying, rotating constantly meaning you never know what you'er pulling if there are more than 2. Sometime pulling Luminous Shards is more important than yet another Conduit (or 9 with vet trials groups)

    2- The Y+B for controller is ridiculous. I'm pretty good and mashing it now, but it would be so much easier if gamepad mode allowed remaps (without using Xpadder).

    3- seems like a lot of DPS and Healers don't pull synergies anyway, even on Choking Talons. When you have high health mobs, that synergy does a LOT of damage.
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  • Invincible
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    Not worth it to attempt to use synegies. You lose 2-3-4 seconds trying to find the right position where the game will register the key press. They're just as buggy as rezzing if not more.
  • Vaoh
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    Paulington wrote: »
    What are synergies? Not seen one in months.

    Synergies are broken, utterly 100% garbage and have been since the VMOL PTS last year. Something was changed and now only one person gets a synergy prompt, so if a ball goes through the group only one person has that synergy, but what if they don't need it?

    So now our healers are forced to spam 4-6 balls into a group of people and even then you still don't get synergies.

    Even worse is that you will be using an ability and see the synergy prompt, ability stops and the prompt is gone. Use the ability and it pops back only to disappear again, it is infuriating and it's been the bane of end-game PvE for a long time and also why sets like Twilight Remedy/Moondancer aren't used for their five piece bonuses as synergies are unreliable.

    Sorry for the rage rant, but this has been broken for so long and not even a whisper of a fix. Calm typing now...
    @Paulington exactly^^^

    Perfect description of the issue. It's extremely annoying how unreliable synergies are in raids, and the sole reason I have never even considered 5-piece Moondancer.
  • Iselin
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    Yes. The effective area for most seems to be tiny and sometimes unpredictable even if you're right smack in the center of something like Nova.

    They really should expand the radius by a large amount.
  • Cinbri
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    Have problems with them since day when zos decided to reduce radius of them.
  • SanTii.92
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    No, I've keybinded it to F and interaction to X so I can hit them more comfortably
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  • Alpheu5
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    Synergies can be super beneficial to the team when used properly, though oftentimes they're easy to miss due to people not being positioned properly, or the prompt to use a synergy isn't visible enough. When I'm tanking with certain people I use the Atronach because the Major Berserk is an enormous damage booster for someone with already good DPS, but it doesn't get used a lot because of the wasted time trying to find that sweet spot to activate the synergy.
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  • itehache
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    Not always, but sometimes I am pressing X like a mad person and it won't work
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