Regarding changes relative to stamina builds in PvP.

Apherius · August 2017

so i think you are stamblade ? Reloader.

CyrusArya · August 2017

Just because a lot of stamina players crutch on proc sets ATM does not at all mean the archtype needs them to function. The two are competitive, with magicka having an edge larger scale and stam in small scale. Could some very slight adjustments be made? Sure. Stamina is very slightly weaker than magicka as staminas defensive mechanics and armor type have seen more nerfs over the years than that of mages.

But it's not nearly enough to call for major nerfs of magicka classes. Nerfing extended ritual guts stamplars as well as magplars, and cool downs are contrary to this game's design philosophy. Magicka DK healing is not OP as they need to stay on a target to get the bulk of their heals. The class cannot stay topped off of its own accord. Sorc shields are the strongest of these 3 points, but also not so strong as to deserve the nerfs you suggest. Get good op.

Brutusmax1mus · August 2017

Vapirko wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

zacvanm wrote: »

I just want a stamina based shield.

since you have vigor and perma blocking you don't really need it.

And can you imagine cloak with shields? not a good idea at all

So by that logic since mag classes have shield they shouldn't need any heals?

You'll find that many players who use shields won't slot many heals.

Usually it is either or. Healing build or shield stacking build. And if they do take both, their damage will be very low in exchange.

I sacrificed better healing for more damage because I can stay alive as it is. My healing is puny but I do have the shields, but I also prefer BGs where there isn't CP. My shields do not do that much for me, and I only have 2 slotted and they're not even on the same bar.

I am considered hard to kill, but just as goes for many players.

If stam had a shield such as hardened ward, I guarantee that stam will become OP overnight. It wouldn't be balanced with the high burst damage, stuns, and procs of a stam nb.

Stamblades are the strongest stam class right now. Stam DK/sorc/Templar don't have the same burst damage of Stamblade. They're also squishy like sorcs though. I've come across many sorcs who hit way harder than any NB. I very very very rarely have trouble with stamblades. If they can line up a combo to take down 24k health in heavy armor good for them. Sorcs on the other hand can q up that kind of damage very easily and can shield stack if it doesn't work out. It's amazing that people still even try to pretend mag sorcs aren't overtuned in pvp. If you can't see that they're the most used class then you're either dumb or don't pvp ever. Many talented streamers who almost exclusively played stam classes have even jumped ship for mag sorcs or a mag build. Mag builds are well known to have an edge in any content whether that be vMA, vet trials or solo and group pvp including dueling. I'm sorry but if you're unaware of this fact then you don't know what you're talking about and should learn about the game before voicing your opinion.

everyone has about the same burst potential if running the same skills when you are stamina. Regardless of class.

For instance, 2h and bow. bow heavy poison inject, bar swap gap closer, light attack/ Heavy attack spammable plus ultimate. All can land about the same time. Low balling numbers imo, you can do with this burst set up: 3k 2k 3k 2k(la)1k (psn inj tick) 4k 6k. That's 21k dmg in 3 seconds but all landing together, and my builds almost always hit harder than that.

Nothing is class exclusive to a nb for a night blades burst. Viper, glyphs, selene are all tools anyone can use. You prob encounter nbs more with these sets bc they have fewer options for recovery and defense for sets synergize with.

Feanor · August 2017

Vapirko wrote: »

Stamblades are the strongest stam class right now. Stam DK/sorc/Templar don't have the same burst damage of Stamblade. They're also squishy like sorcs though. I've come across many sorcs who hit way harder than any NB. I very very very rarely have trouble with stamblades. If they can line up a combo to take down 24k health in heavy armor good for them. Sorcs on the other hand can q up that kind of damage very easily and can shield stack if it doesn't work out. It's amazing that people still even try to pretend mag sorcs aren't overtuned in pvp. If you can't see that they're the most used class then you're either dumb or don't pvp ever.

It's nice how you state your opinion as facts, and back that up with an insult. Shows your agenda.

Many talented streamers who almost exclusively played stam classes have even jumped ship for mag sorcs or a mag build.

Who exactly? Names please.

Mag builds are well known to have an edge in any content whether that be vMA,

Instead of claiming things you should take a look at the leaderboards. You'd be surprised how close the classes are.

vet trials

If you believe the statements of top raiders the stam chars are doing more DPS across the board than mag chars. That the spots for stam a limited rather has to do with most trials not being that melee friendly. This isn't Homestead. Your information is outdated.

or solo and group pvp including dueling. I'm sorry but if you're unaware of this fact then you don't know what you're talking about and should learn about the game before voicing your opinion.

Group PvP? If you're zerging class is irrelevant. Oh, you meant the fabled small scale. I rather think small scale gets decided by player skill, not the class. 8 scrubs on mag Sorcs won't kill a group of 20 just because they are on a Sorc. 8 great players will do regardless of their class.

And of course, the final L2P comment had to be there. You are the epitome of a forum QQer if ever there was one. A lot of biased claims with nothing to back it up.

aegisfire1975 · August 2017

Stam has block and roll dodge. You do realize that you continue to dodge attacks after your roll dodge right? These are just as effective as shields. You just need to know when and how to use them.