Blame the player and not the armor

Its ALL situational, and depends on build, class, role, scenario. You can't just ask, which is better or worse with no context at all.

TheMaster wrote: »

I've seen people say Heavy armor has no uses, though. ~Pepper

Listen Pepper, you see alot of people say alot of things. That doenst make them true.


Also you really dont need to sign each post you make.

yea let's just ignore the existence of light armor

Medium armor. Now for stamina PVE it is still what you will use, however passives such as the damage from stealth don't help with PVE dps at all whille the light armor damage has spell penetration passives which is the single best way to increase DPS. Add to that light armor uses have the option to stack shields or heal to reduce incoming damage (in both PVE and PVP) that stam users do not to the same extent.

Whille for PVP it has its uses, lots of dodge rolls can make you slippery, damage from stealth can pack a real punch. The problem is too often you run right into Eye of the storm (or a bunch of them) and die. You can't dodge roll AoEs like that, If you get CCed you'll be killed much faster than a heavy armor user. Also Warden cliff racer damage can't be avoided. Really good at running away though

Heavy armor is obviously important for PVE tanks. who just want to reduce incoming damage to the cap. Whille in PVP, even with the sustain nerfs, the ability to just not die and slog it out with powerful CC abilities is extremely powerful. You can gain additional burst from monster sets and (until next patch) proc sets. With everyone built for burst the ability to just be too tanky to die to burst makes you a monster in PVP.

Do you happen to be a Mag Sorc, OP? I am noticing the interesting lack of light armor being an option in the poll.

What, no crafted option?

Not saying all crafted sets are terrible but more often than not it is. Also ..heavy and medium, ..really? Whoever you heard this from, just go ahead and completely discredit any further advice you receive from them.

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

TheMaster wrote: »

I've seen people say Heavy armor has no uses, though. ~Pepper

Sounds like they have a lrn2play issue.

When they said it, it was kinda accurate. Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth (around 1.2 or 1.3) Heavy Armor was kinda worthless. The mitigation values weren't that different between the armor types and heavy armor's mitigation bonuses weren't enough to really make it useful.

Back then, Medium Armor was kinda useless as well, because Stamina wasn't really a viable build yet. This might have been before the stamina morphs were implemented. Either way, there was no reason to spec into stamina, and heavy armor offered less mitigation value than a LA character would enjoy with Annulment.

There for awhile the meta was for tanks to run LA with a sword and board.

I want to say this all changed with 1.4, but it may have been earlier than that. Heavy armor went basically unchanged, but medium armor was scaled down to about 3/4s of what it had been, and light armor went to about 1/4th. Annulment also got changed so that it was far less potent (IIRC, it changed to only protect you from spell damage instead of spell and phys, but it's been awhile.)

So... yeah, picking between those two for the most useless would have been a legitimate poll... three years ago.

vpy wrote: »

Blame the player and not the armor

So does that apply to taking on someone in light armor & wards , yes yes it does.

Keep_Door wrote: »

Thats a silly question. All amor types have their uses.

This.

...and as the TO didn't mention PvE or PvP, I understand it as a question concerning PvE and there all armor types are nicely balanced for their roles and purposes.

For PvE, LIght is not so good, 2 passives to give you the same benefit as 1 passive on Medium (Cost Reduction and Regeneration), Crit is a fixed value for 5 pieces or more (no improvement for 6 or 7 pieces), no Spell Damage but Spell Penetration (also a fixed value for 5 pieces or more) who doesn't help me at all as healer.

For PvP which shield ? Most of the shields are based on Max Magicka which is not increased by Light Armor apart from one Morph of the Light Armor Skill.

No sustain and no damage. Only useful for vet trial and vet DLC dungeon tanking - all other content can be tanked in MA with no issues. I will never play HA in PvP. I will never play tank again in PvE.