Please increase the limit for guilds you may join.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

5 guilds is simply not enough.

If you have a personal guild (one you run), by the time you add trading guilds, PvE guilds, and PvP guilds, it's simply not enough.

I would think double that amount would be sufficient.

You shouldn't have to pick and choose membership, and if you are involved in many types of activities, it's frustrating to have to turn down or delay offers where you could contribute.

This should be a fairly simply coding change and would have little effect on data traffic (only affecting notifications).

generalmyrick · July 2017

Respectfully disagree unless you change the guild trader bidding system to protect against creating dummy guilds to disband and sell or disband and move your own guild into if your real guild into if it lost its bid.

Taysa · July 2017

Agreed.

I'm a player who PvEs, PvPs, participates in trade, and RPs. Five guilds is simply not enough for a player who does all those things.

SoLooney · July 2017

5 guilds is sufficient. Im surprised this game allows you to be in more than 2.
one personal, one pve, one pvp, one trading, and i have one slot open.

coop500 · July 2017

It can get a little cramped that's for sure. But my bigger need is let us create two guilds, one personal storage guild and one actual guild. It is gonna be rough giving up 500 free spaces for a real guild to run.

IcyDeadPeople · July 2017

The reason we need so many guilds is because we can only list 30 items in each trader, so if you want to make a certain amount of gold, you need to join at least 2 or 3 different trading guilds. Then on top of those you may want to join a specific guild for other aspects of this game like endgame dungeons/trials, RP, small group PVP, dueling, social guild, large group PVP etc., and some have another guild they use as bank.

If we could sell 50 or 60 items in each trader, I imagine most players could get by with just one or two trading guilds.

Ghost-Shot · July 2017

5 is already too many, most games you get one per character.

coop500 · July 2017

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

5 is already too many, most games you get one per character.

One per character would be fine, then I'd get 10 guilds, but they are doing it account wide, that's the issue.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

generalmyrick wrote: »

Respectfully disagree unless you change the guild trader bidding system to protect against creating dummy guilds to disband and sell or disband and move your own guild into if your real guild into if it lost its bid.

@generalmyrick absolutely no clue what you're talking about here. (You either win the bid or you don't, so not sure what possible relevance this has?)

Second, not referring to anything bid related. Membership in a trading guild is different from ownership of a trade guild - there are several reasons to have your own guild beyond trading potential.

Third, different guilds tend to focus on different things. It's not hard to find PvE guilds, raid guilds, trading guilds, PvP guilds, and anything else you like.

It would allow you to take part in more things when one of the current guilds is not active at that moment (doing something right then.) It would simplify grouping for such events when you find, or you are a good person to assist in various content.

If the current membership works for you, that's fine. It would be an option to add more if you chose to.

coop500 · July 2017

@Merlin13KAGL Read this thread if you haven't already, this is explaining and discussing the possible issue here.https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/361042/major-city-guild-traders-work-around-hurts-smaller-guilds-ps4-na#latest

dotme · July 2017

I'd like more than 5 guild slots. I'm mostly PvP and few PvP guilds are active 7 days a week. So to get grouped up in Home and Guest campaigns, PvP players kinda need to belong to several PvP guilds... which leaves precious little space for Trial guilds, Trading guilds etc.

DMuehlhausen · July 2017

I think anymore than 1 is to many.

Lowering it to one would help with the trader system too. You wouldn't have as many trading guilds bidding the the prices so high. With as many people that are playing you should be able to have a guild that can do PvP, PvE and trading anymore.

generalmyrick · July 2017

@Merlin13KAGL

wellllllllll, on ps4 na server =
1. there are people who are creating guilds and recruiting people to them
2. then bid on guild traders in major spots
3. then sell that guild spot to a rich guild or disband the spot so their main guild has a good spot.

(because you don't know something does not mean it has no relevance. Be nice! Next time = "Hey @generalmyrick i don't really understand what you mean? Can you explain further?")

Feanor · July 2017

If I had more slots I'd be in a few more PvP and PvE guilds. I'd still use only one trading guild.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · July 2017

Honestly, we need to have one guild only. Maybe then they can make guilds and the benefits so much more interesting. Plus, guild loyalty.

Crafts_Many_Boxes · July 2017

What's always baffled me about guilds in this game is that it's locked by account, and not character. Is it because of the guild trader system? Methinks it would be simple enough to have a 150 sales total cap per account, but whatever.

I like having "side guilds" for certain characters in an MMO, and since the guild trader system requires you to be in 2-3 trade guilds to have any degree of success with selling whatsoever, I can't really accomplish this in ESO.

coop500 · July 2017

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Honestly, we need to have one guild only. Maybe then they can make guilds and the benefits so much more interesting. Plus, guild loyalty.

I agree to a certain level, it'd make guilds have to focus on numerous subjects though. And we should be able to be a member in one guild and crete our own guild still, so in a way two.

But that would be a lot of stress on that one guild to cover all the subjects all their members want. Like they'd have to do trading, PVE and PVP at the very least, which seems like a lot for one guild.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

coop500 wrote: »

@Merlin13KAGL Read this thread if you haven't already, this is explaining and discussing the possible issue here.https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/361042/major-city-guild-traders-work-around-hurts-smaller-guilds-ps4-na#latest

generalmyrick wrote: »

@Merlin13KAGL

wellllllllll, on ps4 na server =
1. there are people who are creating guilds and recruiting people to them
2. then bid on guild traders in major spots
3. then sell that guild spot to a rich guild or disband the spot so their main guild has a good spot.

(because you don't know something does not mean it has no relevance. Be nice! Next time = "Hey @generalmyrick i don't really understand what you mean? Can you explain further?")

Apologies ~ I was quick to bite. I misunderstood your original reply's meaning.

@coop500 , @generalmyrick this certainly sounds like an issue that needs solving, and not one I'm trying to exacerbate.

I'm primarily referring to membership for activity purposes, be it social, small group PvE, large group PvE, PvP, or whatever.

Guild loyalty doesn't mean never helping your fellow man or mer, and I feel this would simplify the process.

generalmyrick · July 2017

^i love this idea, sir! :-)

Bromburak · July 2017

One Tamriel is bad enough, don't need more cross faction people. Especially not in PvP.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

@Bromburak , isn't this taken care of on a policy basis by the guilds themselves?

If someone logs in from another alliance in such a restrictive guild, they could simply be kicked. I suspect an Addon could probably be written to notify the GM.

Megabear · July 2017

I think 5 guilds are fine.

ComboBreaker88 · July 2017

If anything they should reduce the amount of guilds you can be in. The more guilds each player is in the weaker each guild becomes as a whole.

Kuramas9tails · July 2017

5 is a lot but I would like 1 or 2 more spots. I created a guild to go with my main guild so members still get access to the simple things in the main guild but only the leaders can grab gold mats and expensive items from the other guild bank. I wish it was easier and I could just deposit a gold necklace in my main guild bank and not worry about some turd taking it to sell and someone who actually needs it will take it but I also want these turds to access extra PVP/PVE gear, recipes, motifs we have to help them.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

If anything they should reduce the amount of guilds you can be in. The more guilds each player is in the weaker each guild becomes as a whole.

@ComboBreaker88 , how so?

If your guild is able to have access to more quality players, because those players are not restricted from joining your guild as well, wouldn't that strengthen your guild?

If I'm busy right now, and you're not, or vice versa, wouldn't being able to call on the other person for assistance benefit guildmembers?

If a guild wishes to be restrictive, or they feel multiple membership negatively affects the guild, they would have the right to implement those restrictions if they choose, would they not?

Tandor · July 2017

I wonder what impact multiple guild membership has on performance, given that each presumably involves constant updating of data on members logging in and out, plus notifications and guild chat etc. - I can only assume that 5 guilds do have more impact than 1, and that more than 5 would therefore have even more of an impact. I imagine the trading addons also have more of an impact on performance the more trading guilds they're keeping track of.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

@Tandor , while there would be a bit more data, this could be addressed a couple different ways.

Location and status (Roster) information could simply be updated (client side) when you view the roster. (Effectively "Out of sight, out of mind.") Individual character status is updated at the server now, so this would not change.
The only other extra data would be guild chat and notifications.
- Notifications could be updated less frequently. If you hear that your mates cleared something every 20 seconds vs every 10, I don't think this would have dire consequences.
- Chat could be tab limited (max of 5 + zone chat in a single tab), requiring a 2nd tab for the other 5 + zone. Effectively updating only when the tab is active, also.

Regarding the addons, this simply automate what would otherwise be a manual process, accessing the guild bank/store through the API in much the same way you would access it yourself.

As the primary reason for requesting more guild slots (my own, that is) is non trade guild related, I would think the impact on this would be minimal, at best.

Balthyzar · July 2017

This must be a troll post. If anything, they need to reduce the number of guilds players can join.

Bromburak · July 2017

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

@Bromburak , isn't this taken care of on a policy basis by the guilds themselves?

No, because ZOS has the awareness what a 3 faction game is actually about and should have never supported something like "One Tamriel". Imo ESO went in the wrong direction for a 3 faction driven game.

It would have been good enough to share PvE Group Finder for all factions but everything else should have a faction lock.
It's not only guilds with cross faction problems you also can switch campaigns while they are still running.

I am very sorry, but imo ZOS and majority of player base doesn't really know what 3 faction war really means.

Tandor · July 2017

Bromburak wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

@Bromburak , isn't this taken care of on a policy basis by the guilds themselves?

No, because ZOS has the awareness what a 3 faction game is actually about and should have never supported something like "One Tamriel". Imo ESO went in the wrong direction for a 3 faction driven game.

It would have been good enough to share PvE Group Finder for all factions but everything else should have a faction lock.
It's not only guilds with cross faction problems you also can switch campaigns while they are still running.

I am very sorry, but imo ZOS and majority of player base doesn't really know what 3 faction war really means.

I suspect they do, but it isn't really suited to a megaserver-based game. It's far better suited to one in which you can roll different alliance characters on different servers.

Remag_Div · July 2017

More than 5?

I'd rather it just be 1.