vMA horror story. Beware of old versions of the quest!

Dantaria
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TL;DR: Guys, if you want to attempt to beat vMA, make sure you took the quest in the present patch. If you have "old version" - abandon it! Otherwise, arena might reset when you quit the game and all your progress will be lost!

So. I complained a lot about how unfun the vMA is and how I just can't find the motivation to complete it. Turns out there was a motivation - absolute total boredom :D It was Saturday evening, I had absolutely nothing to do and I decided - the heck, time to s**t up the trolls, finally prove primary to myself that I can indeed do it and close this book :)

At first... It honestly was suprisingly easy. I mean, oh, I can see how it can be hard when someone runs for the score or Flawless Conquerer, but if one just wants to casually complete it? Defence sigil, DoTs, Lightning Staff HAs, perma-shield all the way - and you honestly can just don't give a s**t :D

It was a breeze, and I started to think "Easy-peasy, lemon squeezy...". That's where the 1st sign of danger showed up.

My quest, which I had hanging even before Morrowind, wasn't updating. I passed 2 first arenas without death, struggled a bit on 3rd, but managed, 4th was EZ, 5th - struggled, but okay... But all the while the quest told me to "Enter Vail of Surreal".

I thought that this was just visual bug and disregarded it. Ohohoho.

So. It was easy. But then I got to last boss.

This... this spawn of Satan and Molag Bal ripped my uranus wide open. I'm not above admitting it :D It took me just 3 hours to get to him. On him I spent 4 hours. To no avail.

I understood what I should do. I managed to learn to destroy crystals and get him down plus-minus consistently. But then? Then sustain issues shined in their full glory - I had no magicka after crystal phase and oh boy, how rekt I was. Over and over and over again.

After 4 hours I realized that I needed to chill. Or I'll break something :D

So I quitted the game. Drank a tea, danced a bit, cleared my head... And then it hit me. Having sustain issues with a dude who throws mag-attacks at you? Just change perma-Hardened-Ward to perma-Harness-Magicka, that should work, right? In retrospective - I should have realized it during that hellish 4 hours, but I just... I suppose I got stubbornly stuck in all ways possible :) Wasn't thinking clearly.

Anyway, I entered the game again, ported to vMA, entered it... And found myself in the 1st arena. Freaking Vail of Surreal.

I did not abandon the quest. Only, as I said, it wasn't updating. And this was the result of it.

At first I felt a tingle of mindless rage, but then... As I said, I honestly didn't struggle with anything but final boss. So I quickly calmed down and started anew.

I made it to 7th arena and realized I was getting sleepy. Oh well. Wasn't going to even try put the spawn of Satan and Molag Bal down while tired, so I quitted the game and went to bad.

Sunday morning I logged in and... Yes. FREAKING VAIL OF SURREAL.

I tried abandoning the quest. But the Prince talked to me as if I took it, though I did not have it in my journal, I abandoned it! And couldn't take it again, because Prince thought I was already in progress.

I tried changing difficulty to normal and back. Nope. Didn't work.

Well. I had only one option, didn't? To make it in one go. And I did :)

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Oh boy, how I hope that now this s**t will finally work properly. I haven't checked it yet.

The only reason for this I can think of is that I used the quest which I took long time ago. So yeah, guys. Don't repeat my mistake :)

Also, personal advice to those who still struggle with vMA. As I found out, the best setup for vMA is the setup you're comfortable with.

I tried many things, guys. Tried using Clanfear. Tried Crushing Shock. All advices people give to make things easier. But in truth they only made things harder.

This time around I decided "screw it" and went in my full glass-canon "17k HP" vTrials petless setup without changing anything (only added Surge). I thought, "hey. If I can interrupt by bashing mages in Hel-Ra and White Twin and his adds - sure I can bash s**t in vMA". Turns out - I was right. And it was much easier - to simply do the same things I was going for months.

Don't use what other people are comfortable with. Use what you are comfortable with. And vMA honestly turns from "Rrrrrrrrrrr!" into "Wait? That's it?" :)

And, of course:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJscrxxl_Bg

Best of luck to you :)
Edited by Dantaria on July 17, 2017 4:08PM
English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • Waffennacht
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    Omfg that video.... ROFL

    I...

    I hope vMA ...

    JUST DO IT!
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  • Nordic_Pirate
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    If nothing else the video was worth reading this and watching the video. Also, back in the day I did vMA twice. Now my character is stronger, better, faster, smarter...and i can't do it to save my life. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Yes, I do heartily repent. I repent I had not done more mischief; and that we did not cut the throats of them that took us, and I am extremely sorry that you aren't hanged as well as we.

    — Anonymous pirate, asked on the gallows if he repented.
  • supaskrub
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    and now we have to ask....

    What was in the chest?.. :)
    Edited by supaskrub on July 17, 2017 5:02PM
  • Dantaria
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    supaskrub wrote: »
    and now we have to ask....

    What was in the chest?.. :)

    Nirnhorned Battle Axe :D WORTH IT :D
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    There are 2 versions of the quest, for both normal AND vet. Are you certain you didn't pick up the quest on normal and assume it was vet, and thereby not save your progress?
  • Dantaria
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    There are 2 versions of the quest, for both normal AND vet. Are you certain you didn't pick up the quest on normal and assume it was vet, and thereby not save your progress?
    Absolutely. To be honest, I just didn't see any point in doing normal. I decided that if I ever was going to complete MA - it should be vet straight ahead. First, weapons, second, normal is honestly meaningless trash in eso :/ After seeing difference between nMoL and vMoL I was done with normal content. It doesn't teach anything here :(

    So it was vet 100%.
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • Balthyzar
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    When you switch the difficulty to normal, you need to go in, except the normal quest and die. Then you can switch it back to vet and it resets. I'm honestly surprised you were able to do it on vet at all if you haven't even been playing long enough to know how to reset an instance. I applaud your unnecessary effort in this endeavor. Hopefully that little bit of info saves someone from making the same mistake you did. Lmao
    Edited by Balthyzar on July 17, 2017 5:59PM
    Balthyzar,
    Heir to House Dagoth & last of the Aundae
  • Fischblut
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    I did not abandon the quest. Only, as I said, it wasn't updating.

    If you intended to take a break in process, you should have stopped right after you saw the quest didn't update :/
    ...I tried abandoning the quest. But the Prince talked to me as if I took it, though I did not have it in my journal, I abandoned it! And couldn't take it again, because Prince thought I was already in progress.

    Abandon quest and leave the arena (or vice versa, doesn't matter), wait 5 minutes for arena to reset (basic reset timer for dungeons and trials) - and come in again to take fresh quest :)
  • seedubsrun
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    I know what you mean here. I've had the same thing happen to me. I also had this happen:

    I was going for a decent scored run and I had a series of stupid deaths in round 5 so I wanted to quit and start over. This was maybe the third time I'd done this and usually I'll exit to wayshrine then travel somewhere, abandon the quest, switch to normal then back, and then head back in and get the quest again.

    Well this time I exited round 5 to wayshrine and abandoned the quest while still in the pre-arena area. I left, swapped back and forth between difficulties, went back in and he was talking to me like I was already in the quest. I open the doors and it takes me back to round 5. Mind you I don't have the quest at all anymore. So I restart my console and then load back in hoping it was a weird glitch. I load right into the pre-arena area (which is not supposed to happen anyway) and go back to the short little prick and still no quest, still round 5.

    Nothing I could do would make it go away so I just sucked it up and finished the terrible run anyway. Got a nirnhoned resto staff and since I'd abandoned the quest there was nothing to turn in so I didn't get my XP either.
  • Dantaria
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    Fischblut wrote: »
    If you intended to take a break in process, you should have stopped right after you saw the quest didn't update :/
    I'll be honest here: I intended only to quit :D

    I always did :) And not even because I died a lot or got stuck. I just... got bored and didn't see any point.

    But when I went there in my standard trial setup it just... sort of clicked. I perceived vMA as some other realm, other game. But it isn't. It really ask you to do absolutely the same things you do in the game in other areas. What is the ultimate point of playing ESO? There is non :D I play it just because I like it. Therefore - might as well play vMA :)

    I'm probably the only one (or at least one of the very few), who honestly went there just to fool around and quit, but then suddenly got it and accidently got to last boss :D

    And come on. Who gives up on the last boss? :D And at that point I 100% knew I can make it.

    But I digress, sorry :)

    I didn't know there is 5 mins cooldown, I will keep it in mind, thanks!

    Also, I went to check, if the quest was working properly now. It was and... I did it again :D Got powered Greatsword. Powered. Greatsword :D

    It doesn't get better, does it? :D
    seedubsrun wrote: »
    Nothing I could do would make it go away so I just sucked it up and finished the terrible run anyway. Got a nirnhoned resto staff and since I'd abandoned the quest there was nothing to turn in so I didn't get my XP either.
    I'm sorry to hear that :( But it works fine now for you, I hope?
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • SquareSausage
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    Ive had quest bug out on me too.

    But its when I dont hand it in immediately after completing, and just log off. When I try to hand in when I return he doesnt accept it and if I try to enter arena I get ported out. In that case I leave and abandon, then return.

    Grtz on first kill, big achievement on your first time :)
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  • LadyLethalla
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    Pretty sure my pre-MW VMA quest still says to enter the... whatever stage 7 is...
    Gonna be extremely p*ssed if it puts me back at stage 1... game quitting rage, even.

    And no, you can't haz my stuffs.
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  • SilverWF
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    And no, you can't haz my stuffs.

    But how about me?
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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