Avran_Sylt wrote: »

It's a nice QoL change for the Set Summoned pets to inherit CP, but would you be willing to expand this to ability summoned pets as well? (Such as the sorcs Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar, Atronach)

This would probably be overkill. Stormy, sure, he could use a buff. But volatile familiar already does a huge heap of damage in pve on necro pet sorc builds, and really isn't used in pvp.

If they lower the base damage down to keep the ceiling from being too high, low level sorcs that unlock those pets first thing would get nerfed pretty hard.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Loving how there's only two pages. Most people have given up giving feedback that'll be ignored.

Hope bro hope

Scyantific wrote: »

@Wrobel (if he even reads these things anymore), @ZOS_RichLambert how about this change to Nerien'eth

1pc - Max Magicka
2pc - Remove the delay on the crystal's explosion, making the damage almost instant. This way, magicka classes get an instant burst undaunted set that's on par with Selene on stamina users.

Yea I don't usually go for nerfs but in this case please just nerf Selene, Tremorscale and Skoria. I fail to understand how Tremorscale wasn't even in the patch notes and how Selene didn't get at least a second between its proc and actual damage.

Perhaps because Selene has a second before dealing damage? The bear spawns, roars and then he attacks... So what do you want more? Should the bear do half an hour of dancing before he attacks?

@Wrobel (if he even reads these things anymore), @ZOS_RichLambert how about this change to Nerien'eth

1pc - Max Magicka
2pc - Remove the delay on the crystal's explosion, making the damage almost instant. This way, magicka classes get an instant burst undaunted set that's on par with Selene on stamina users.

Valkyn

@Wrobel
Even after making adjustments for the new trait and mundus changes, my Magicka Sorc is parsing lower than on live by around 3-4k dps. The max I've been able to hit on PTS was 38k. My best on live is 41k.

I understand some very vocal people on the forums have complained consistently about the Magicka Sorcerer but when Stam NBs and Templars are parsing over 45k dps, it makes me think that a number of factors implemented in the Morrowind patch and now the HotR patch are leading to the Magicka Sorc losing out. Now admittedly, the Magicka Warden is in the worst spot and needs very serious help, but this at least is what I think should be done for the Magicka Sorc:

1. Revert the Concussion change back to 6 seconds. 4 seconds seriously hurts uptime of this status effect, which effectively hurts Minor Vulnerability and Off-Balance (Exploiter) uptime. Alternatively, consider changing Heavy Attacks to no longer consume the Exploiter passive's 10% damage buff when knocking down an off-balance target. If it lasted the full 4 seconds regardless of when off-balance was consumed, then it would be fine.

2. Please consider disengaging the 55% pet damage buff from the expolsion of Daedric Prey. Rather, keep the explosion at 6 seconds, but make the pet damage buff last 10 seconds. This would allow Pet Sorcs to activate Daedric Prey before activating Volatile Familiar and get the damage bonus for the full 8 second duration. As it stands, trying to keep Daedric Prey up 100% is very awkward in the Sorc rotarion where we basically have a repeating pattern every 8 seconds.

3. Reduce the Lightning Heavy Attack duration from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds. This isn't specific to Sorcs, but since we have bonus lightning damage, it is the preferred staff we use. Remember all the complaints about how slow heavy attacks were and how slow it made combat feel? Well Lightning didn't get adjusted, even though that was the primary weapon magicka players were heavy attacking with. Reduce the damage and regen as you see fit, but the shorter duration would again help with fitting heavy attacks into rotations more neatly and increase the sense of speed in combat.

Thanks for considering these suggestions!

I would like to see major force buffed. Currently it gives 15% critical damage (additive) while the minor buff gives 10%. I suggest changing it to the minor/major brutality values (25% major, 8% minor).

ZOS pls fix magicka DK skills. Many are atrociously broken.

Inferno: AoE. Damage type and resource cost based of highest stats.

Cauterize: Moving AoE hot on caster that also based of highest stats.

FOO: Inferno + Stam+mag steal depending on stat.

Reflective scales: Make wings reflect 4 projectiles but without a timer. *All* projectiles except for ulti. This will make it a decent skill for small scale that doesn't double dip in duration, 4 seconds and only 4 projectiles* (*Not all projectiles, Terms and conditions apply) is silly. Instead it can be a preemptive buff that the DK has to track without it being 4 seconds of complete invulnerability.

Draconic leap: Return range buffs in cyro, they can't jump onto keeps any longer, so its an unfair limit.

Chains: Make both morphs gap closers, and make them work on slopes, its so much worse than other gap closers, not to mention trapped behind a PvE skill.

Stonefist: Renamed to tectonics. Make this the new pull, looks like fossilize's animation, but the funtionality of chains. Generally looks cooler and stops the need to respec for pve/p.

These changes won't affect damage at all, so won't harm balance. It will however make DKs more accessible.

Scyantific wrote: »

@Wrobel (if he even reads these things anymore), @ZOS_RichLambert how about this change to Nerien'eth

1pc - Max Magicka
2pc - Remove the delay on the crystal's explosion, making the damage almost instant. This way, magicka classes get an instant burst undaunted set that's on par with Selene on stamina users.

THIS.......................

@Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert

ak_pvp wrote: »

ZOS pls fix magicka DK skills. Many are atrociously broken.

Inferno: AoE. Damage type and resource cost based of highest stats.

Cauterize: Moving AoE hot on caster that also based of highest stats.

FOO: Inferno + Stam+mag steal depending on stat.

Reflective scales: Make wings reflect 4 projectiles but without a timer. *All* projectiles except for ulti. This will make it a decent skill for small scale that doesn't double dip in duration, 4 seconds and only 4 projectiles* (*Not all projectiles, Terms and conditions apply) is silly. Instead it can be a preemptive buff that the DK has to track without it being 4 seconds of complete invulnerability.

Draconic leap: Return range buffs in cyro, they can't jump onto keeps any longer, so its an unfair limit.

Chains: Make both morphs gap closers, and make them work on slopes, its so much worse than other gap closers, not to mention trapped behind a PvE skill.

Stonefist: Renamed to tectonics. Make this the new pull, looks like fossilize's animation, but the funtionality of chains. Generally looks cooler and stops the need to respec for pve/p.

These changes won't affect damage at all, so won't harm balance. It will however make DKs more accessible.

No

Could the Twilight Tormentor morph finally be buffed to make it a clearcut DPS option, instead of the current niche of organized Trials or bust?

Twilight Tormentor and Twilight Matriarch have the exact same DPS for 50% of any given fight, because Tormentor's active ability is nonfunctional on a target below 50% health. Matriarch's active will work in any possible situation while she still does the same as Tormentor, except she can still heal when Tormentor's active becomes "invalid".

At the very least Tormentor should scale higher than Matriach, the active work on any HP level if you have the magicka to use it, or have it debuff targets it attacks/

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for combat balance and ability changes. After you have a chance to try out different combat scenarios, let us know what you think of the current balance.

Is this related only to current changes? Because I would like to say the bow damage (pvp and pve) even on warden is still bad, but there have been no attempt at buffs or critical changes since January. So my take on current balance in relation to bow is its still very very bad.

Why if you cast any nonBow skill in the game you deal less damage than everyone else.
You can equip resto staff on stam warden and lose 5% crit chance from bow, but gain Major Mending on heavy attacks, undodgeable heavy attacks, large amount of magicka gain from the heavy attacks, heal low health allies for more and restore magicka on block. Yes, you get all of this while dealing same damage with stam skills on stam builds as bow user would, except they get 5% more crit and their light/heavy scale with stam/wp dmg.

Slotting 1h+S you literally get another armor piece with huge amount of armor that allows you to run 5/5/2 sets while significantly buffing your blocking possibilities and giving you MORE damage than bow. Losing ranged light attacks and 5% crit chance from bow.

I dont have to continue, because other weapons are actually focused on damage and the differences are just enormous. Every weapon in this game in some ways buffs your either defensive or offensive capabilities (or both), only bow does nothing but 5% more crit chance.
Same weapon damage as 1H or staves. Same set limitation as staves. Same number of skills like staves. No significant offensive boost contrary to what staves get. While almost no stamina class skills exist and those that do are either melee or supportive. And when they are finally both stam and ranged they are significantly behind their magicka counterpart (mag warden cliff racer 6% from passive, 15% from range; stam absolutely nothing) or very bad for long time without almost no touch (silver bolts).

In short playing archer build in this game in pve and pvp means equipping bow, using ranged bow skills, using other ranged/supportive skills, wearing medium armor. And in each of these parts there is some huge road block and half of them can be traced back to low damage (like the more % damage everyone gets the bigger the gap) and bad/no skills (like having melee range knockback)

//EDIT:
Forgot to list some suggestions if they aren't obvious from the rant above:

1. Bow NEEDS (staves and 2H should) to count for 2 set pieces. Either by simply making it that way or creating quiver
2. Bow needs to boost all damage like all weapons do. Not just bow skills. Not saying the full 25% of hawkeye should do it, but something has to be done
3. Drop the long range passive. Range does not exists in this game. All fights are melee range or mid range (~10m max). In both PVE and PVP. The only thing that the long shot passive boosts are Snipe zergs and Snipe gankers.
4. Buff or change the crit passive. Seriously, what is 5% crit chance when all other weapon get higher percent increases for all damage. You get 5% more to ALL damage on 2H or dual wield or twice the amount of crit from daggers while getting more raw weapon damage.
5. Speed up (again) heavy attacks of bow. They are still impossible to use in any rotation. Either it is animation related or bug, but heavy attacking with staves is day and night compared to bow
6. Make Scatter Shot proper ranged CC/knockback like half the classes and all Magicka chars in this game already have.
7. Better PVP execute than DoT that takes 2sec to deal damage would not hurt either. Either by making Venom Arrow better or Poison Injection deal damage faster (and/or on hit too)
8. Racial passives should get better. Half the stam races have melee related passives while second half stealth related. Magicka races simply boost damage they deal (of some damage type for example). Suggestion: increase ranged or poison damage of Bosmer
9. Cliff racer morph (Cutting dive) should get stam morph comparable to what mag morph gets
10. Silver bolts (at least the non gap closer morph) should be completely changed. The damage is low, AoE is irrelevant, the cost is high and snare is almost irrelevant too (good for zergs to chase at best); Better suggestion: rework half the FG skills (again)
11. Remove from addon API anything related to projectile launches. There is no reason why players should be warned someone is attacking them if they are not capable of noticing it himself

Reading it now, it is little sad how many changes it would get to make archer builds good. Anything less than 90% of these and they will still underperform, but getting 10% would feel like miracle.

TheHsN wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I think the Destruction Ultimate was missed in the patch notes.

i think stop asking for nerf and learn to dodge....or run away from it... PLS dont ruin PVE cuz of PVP.....

its only eye of the storm specifically overperforming in pvp. if you need your trash mob ulty you still have RAGE morph for that. When it comes to balancing the game, pvp is first simply because pve npcs health can be modified very easily.