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Did zenimax possibly buff master angler? 14 master angler runs.

MyNameIsElias
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So this is going to be an updated version of my first post: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3707782#Comment_3707782

I got done fishing a little while before homestead dropped, then with the release of morrowind, and the two additional character slots, i did exactly what everyone else does when a new class comes out....i went fishing.

Once i got master angler on my first warden, i noticed that i was 2k fish under the average amount i usually catch during each run. Then i started on my second warden, and i just barely got under 7k fish caught. When i first heard of furnishings being added to the fishing loot table, i thought it would make master angler an even longer and more painful grind. But then it actually went faster somehow. Please, check out the (bad) graphs i made below here and share your thoughts, do you think zos buffed master angler?

Picture proof: http://imgur.com/a/RCIMC
Video proof 1-12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qks6LIn-Y
Video proof 13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SseJ10i-6rE
Video proof 14:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vqSOK5wCRk

Total number of fish caught by each character
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Average number of fish caught per run: 8189,76

Total number of fish caught, ranked by type
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Total amount of fish caught: 106354. RIP my E key.

Amount of bait used per water type
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Gold spent on each type of bait, calculated with MM prices on PC-EU
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Total amount of gold spent on bait: ~1328937 gold


Amount of perfect roe acquired from each run
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Average roe: 80,25
Here is a timeline showing time between each run, and the difference in champion points gained between runs

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And finally, here is my fish count inside my craft bag
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So what do you think, did Zenimax actually buff master angler with homestead adding more to the loot table, or was it just rng being rng? Would love to hear your thoughts :)

  • Kr3do
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    Nobody loves you.
  • Urkraft
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    srsly....are u....?
  • Ghettokid
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    Oh @MyNameIsElias
    Well you came and you gave without taking
    But I sent you away, oh @MyNameIsElias
    And you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
    And I need you today, oh @MyNameIsElias
  • Teridaxus
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    ...i gave up after wasting 1000 bait to get the last blue fish in glenumbra, the area where i started my master angler run.
    What have i done to anger rngjesus that much?
  • Chufu
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    Now i know who could teach me to become a Master Angler :D
  • MyNameIsElias
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Oh @MyNameIsElias
    Well you came and you gave without taking
    But I sent you away, oh @MyNameIsElias
    And you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
    And I need you today, oh @MyNameIsElias

    Hahaha, i almost spilled my drink reading that :smiley:
  • ArchMikem
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    1.3 Million on Bait?........

    .......ON BAIT!?!?
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  • MyNameIsElias
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    1.3 Million on Bait?........

    .......ON BAIT!?!?

    Honestly, grinding bait is more boring then fishing, and keep in mind it's 1.3 million over the course of a long time :)
  • Banana
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    Must be a student or unemployed
  • supaskrub
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    Wowsers, i never knew fishing was so... ermmm complicated :) thats a professional approach you have there (praise be to the god of craft bags 105k fish.. lol).
    Edited by supaskrub on July 13, 2017 10:42PM
  • MyNameIsElias
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    Banana wrote: »
    Must be a student or unemployed

    Student ;)
  • disintegr8
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    With all due respect, you need to get a life...... :o
    I can understand getting master angler on 1 or 2 characters but what you have done is madness :)
    I have been working on the achievement on 1 character only and have found it extremely frustrating - just have Cyrodiil to go.

    My only thought on any change is that maybe the furnishing items you get while fishing actually come from the fish portion of what you catch instead of the trophy fish portion - which is what we were afraid would happen.

    Say on average you got a trophy fish 1 in 30 casts, with the rest being regular fish. Now you might still get 1 in 30 casts, but instead of 29 fish, 1 of the remainder is a housing item. So in 30 casts you get 1 trophy fish, 1 housing item and only 28 regular fish. I don't suppose you tracked how many furnishing items you got to see if it makes up the difference?

    I must say that I respect your dedication to fishing, good job.
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  • BuddyAces
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    What amazes me out of all of that is you spent even more time to chart and graph all of your work in a professional looking manner better than any other guide ever made for this game.
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  • MyNameIsElias
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    supaskrub wrote: »
    Wowsers, i never knew fishing was so... ermmm complicated :) thats a professional approach you have there.

    Hehe, fishing is simple, if you have bait you can fish ;) I just wanted to save all the data i could be bothered to save and then present it here, i find reading stats like this fairly interesting!
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    According to my calculations .

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    Yes .
  • ZunaRoath
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    God, Elias. You won't stop amazing me. I proudly talk to my friends about you lol. "My friend Elias, yes, that guy who has master angler on 14 chars, ...". You're crazy xD Good job man hahaha. Why, and how xD I bore myself to death everytime I go fishing.
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    Seriously I think ZOS should take a look at this and award you some kind of custom title for dedication beyond the call of duty.. (even if its only a forum title) I'm flabbergasted.. in a good way I may add..
  • MyNameIsElias
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    BuddyAces wrote: »
    What amazes me out of all of that is you spent even more time to chart and graph all of your work in a professional looking manner better than any other guide ever made for this game.

    Thank you. I spent around 9 hours making the graphs on a website, then editing them in paint to suit my needs, i never got truly satisfied with it, but i'm glad they turned out ok :)
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    Would you mind graphing the entire rest of the game for us?
  • Bouldercleave
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    You sir (or Madam), need professional help.

    If I fish more than 15 minutes I want to eat a bullet.




    Edited by Bouldercleave on July 13, 2017 11:07PM
  • MyNameIsElias
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    Betheny wrote: »
    Would you mind graphing the entire rest of the game for us?

    Why not x)
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Bro next time just ask for bait. Seriously I've got *** tons of it. On the house.
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  • MyNameIsElias
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    Bro next time just ask for bait. Seriously I've got *** tons of it. On the house.

    Haha, sure thing!
  • kijima
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    Whoah you REALLY like your fishing bro.
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  • MyNameIsElias
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    With all due respect, you need to get a life...... :o
    I can understand getting master angler on 1 or 2 characters but what you have done is madness :)
    I have been working on the achievement on 1 character only and have found it extremely frustrating - just have Cyrodiil to go.

    My only thought on any change is that maybe the furnishing items you get while fishing actually come from the fish portion of what you catch instead of the trophy fish portion - which is what we were afraid would happen.

    Say on average you got a trophy fish 1 in 30 casts, with the rest being regular fish. Now you might still get 1 in 30 casts, but instead of 29 fish, 1 of the remainder is a housing item. So in 30 casts you get 1 trophy fish, 1 housing item and only 28 regular fish. I don't suppose you tracked how many furnishing items you got to see if it makes up the difference?

    I must say that I respect your dedication to fishing, good job.

    When you are in cyrodiil, you can sneak while fishing! Go into sneak, and cast the rod before you are stealthed.
    I didn't keep track of exactly the amount of furnishings caught, but it's around 8-12 per zone, mostly "small fish" and stuff like that etc. I did loot 4 gold items while fishing on my wardens, so it's a pretty rare drop ap0a6OH.jpg

    When they release more character slots, i'll go again and keep track of all data, including furnishings :)
    Edited by MyNameIsElias on July 13, 2017 11:43PM
  • Cynnalia
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    I really hope you have a fleet of 14 boats at one of your houses...lol

    I started my MA run last April and took a break for almost a year, finishing up the last few zones a couple of months ago. I didn't track any numbers, but it did really seem it didn't take as long to get the fish I needed to finish up, vs when I first started fishing before Homestead. Could just be RNG, though...
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  • MyNameIsElias
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    Cynnalia wrote: »
    I really hope you have a fleet of 14 boats at one of your houses...lol

    I started my MA run last April and took a break for almost a year, finishing up the last few zones a couple of months ago. I didn't track any numbers, but it did really seem it didn't take as long to get the fish I needed to finish up, vs when I first started fishing before Homestead. Could just be RNG, though...

    I'm really glad to hear people have experienced this too. I broke my record of zones cleared in a day when i fished on my 1st warden, i completed 3 zones in 1 day :open_mouth:
  • Tezlakipuka
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    You really have too much time :o@MyNameIsElias
    According to my calculations .

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    Yes .

    Pretty sure you made an mistake in line _32_ there
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    In another news there are no more fish in the world. Ocean, lake, pond, etc are completely deprived and it has created a chain reaction of slow global death. Most shockingly, it was just one student that did this, with.. with a fishing pole.
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  • Urkraft
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    so well...seriously. i also have the feeling they increased the droprate. i remember how hard my master angler was, how long i have been fishing for some of them, morrowind was very very fast compared to some zones back then.... actually fishing in morrowind was very disappointing in that case.
    Edited by Urkraft on July 14, 2017 12:03AM
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