Did zenimax possibly buff master angler? 14 master angler runs.

MyNameIsElias

So this is going to be an updated version of my first post: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3707782#Comment_3707782

I got done fishing a little while before homestead dropped, then with the release of morrowind, and the two additional character slots, i did exactly what everyone else does when a new class comes out....i went fishing.

Once i got master angler on my first warden, i noticed that i was 2k fish under the average amount i usually catch during each run. Then i started on my second warden, and i just barely got under 7k fish caught. When i first heard of furnishings being added to the fishing loot table, i thought it would make master angler an even longer and more painful grind. But then it actually went faster somehow. Please, check out the (bad) graphs i made below here and share your thoughts, do you think zos buffed master angler?

Picture proof: http://imgur.com/a/RCIMC
Video proof 1-12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qks6LIn-Y
Video proof 13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SseJ10i-6rE
Video proof 14:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vqSOK5wCRk

Total number of fish caught by each character


Average number of fish caught per run: 8189,76

Total number of fish caught, ranked by type

Total amount of fish caught: 106354. RIP my E key.

Amount of bait used per water type


Gold spent on each type of bait, calculated with MM prices on PC-EU

Total amount of gold spent on bait: ~1328937 gold


Amount of perfect roe acquired from each run

Average roe: 80,25
Here is a timeline showing time between each run, and the difference in champion points gained between runs





And finally, here is my fish count inside my craft bag


So what do you think, did Zenimax actually buff master angler with homestead adding more to the loot table, or was it just rng being rng? Would love to hear your thoughts

Kr3do

Nobody loves you.

Urkraft

srsly....are u....?

Ghettokid

Oh @MyNameIsElias
Well you came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away, oh @MyNameIsElias
And you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today, oh @MyNameIsElias

Teridaxus

...i gave up after wasting 1000 bait to get the last blue fish in glenumbra, the area where i started my master angler run.
What have i done to anger rngjesus that much?

Chufu

Now i know who could teach me to become a Master Angler

MyNameIsElias

Ghettokid wrote: »

Oh @MyNameIsElias
Well you came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away, oh @MyNameIsElias
And you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today, oh @MyNameIsElias

Hahaha, i almost spilled my drink reading that

ArchMikem

1.3 Million on Bait?........

.......ON BAIT!?!?

MyNameIsElias

ArchMikem wrote: »

1.3 Million on Bait?........

.......ON BAIT!?!?

Honestly, grinding bait is more boring then fishing, and keep in mind it's 1.3 million over the course of a long time

Banana

Must be a student or unemployed

supaskrub

Wowsers, i never knew fishing was so... ermmm complicated thats a professional approach you have there (praise be to the god of craft bags 105k fish.. lol).

MyNameIsElias

Banana wrote: »

Must be a student or unemployed

Student

disintegr8

With all due respect, you need to get a life......
I can understand getting master angler on 1 or 2 characters but what you have done is madness
I have been working on the achievement on 1 character only and have found it extremely frustrating - just have Cyrodiil to go.

My only thought on any change is that maybe the furnishing items you get while fishing actually come from the fish portion of what you catch instead of the trophy fish portion - which is what we were afraid would happen.

Say on average you got a trophy fish 1 in 30 casts, with the rest being regular fish. Now you might still get 1 in 30 casts, but instead of 29 fish, 1 of the remainder is a housing item. So in 30 casts you get 1 trophy fish, 1 housing item and only 28 regular fish. I don't suppose you tracked how many furnishing items you got to see if it makes up the difference?

I must say that I respect your dedication to fishing, good job.

BuddyAces

What amazes me out of all of that is you spent even more time to chart and graph all of your work in a professional looking manner better than any other guide ever made for this game.

MyNameIsElias

supaskrub wrote: »

Wowsers, i never knew fishing was so... ermmm complicated thats a professional approach you have there.

Hehe, fishing is simple, if you have bait you can fish I just wanted to save all the data i could be bothered to save and then present it here, i find reading stats like this fairly interesting!

Rohamad_Ali

According to my calculations .




Yes .

ZunaRoath

God, Elias. You won't stop amazing me. I proudly talk to my friends about you lol. "My friend Elias, yes, that guy who has master angler on 14 chars, ...". You're crazy xD Good job man hahaha. Why, and how xD I bore myself to death everytime I go fishing.

supaskrub

Seriously I think ZOS should take a look at this and award you some kind of custom title for dedication beyond the call of duty.. (even if its only a forum title) I'm flabbergasted.. in a good way I may add..

MyNameIsElias

BuddyAces wrote: »

What amazes me out of all of that is you spent even more time to chart and graph all of your work in a professional looking manner better than any other guide ever made for this game.

Thank you. I spent around 9 hours making the graphs on a website, then editing them in paint to suit my needs, i never got truly satisfied with it, but i'm glad they turned out ok

Betheny

Would you mind graphing the entire rest of the game for us?

Bouldercleave

You sir (or Madam), need professional help.

If I fish more than 15 minutes I want to eat a bullet.

MyNameIsElias

Betheny wrote: »

Would you mind graphing the entire rest of the game for us?

Why not x)

DRXHarbinger

Bro next time just ask for bait. Seriously I've got *** tons of it. On the house.

MyNameIsElias

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Bro next time just ask for bait. Seriously I've got *** tons of it. On the house.

Haha, sure thing!

kijima

Whoah you REALLY like your fishing bro.

MyNameIsElias

disintegr8 wrote: »

With all due respect, you need to get a life......
I can understand getting master angler on 1 or 2 characters but what you have done is madness
I have been working on the achievement on 1 character only and have found it extremely frustrating - just have Cyrodiil to go.

My only thought on any change is that maybe the furnishing items you get while fishing actually come from the fish portion of what you catch instead of the trophy fish portion - which is what we were afraid would happen.

Say on average you got a trophy fish 1 in 30 casts, with the rest being regular fish. Now you might still get 1 in 30 casts, but instead of 29 fish, 1 of the remainder is a housing item. So in 30 casts you get 1 trophy fish, 1 housing item and only 28 regular fish. I don't suppose you tracked how many furnishing items you got to see if it makes up the difference?

I must say that I respect your dedication to fishing, good job.

When you are in cyrodiil, you can sneak while fishing! Go into sneak, and cast the rod before you are stealthed.
I didn't keep track of exactly the amount of furnishings caught, but it's around 8-12 per zone, mostly "small fish" and stuff like that etc. I did loot 4 gold items while fishing on my wardens, so it's a pretty rare drop

When they release more character slots, i'll go again and keep track of all data, including furnishings

Cynnalia

I really hope you have a fleet of 14 boats at one of your houses...lol

I started my MA run last April and took a break for almost a year, finishing up the last few zones a couple of months ago. I didn't track any numbers, but it did really seem it didn't take as long to get the fish I needed to finish up, vs when I first started fishing before Homestead. Could just be RNG, though...

MyNameIsElias

Cynnalia wrote: »

I really hope you have a fleet of 14 boats at one of your houses...lol

I started my MA run last April and took a break for almost a year, finishing up the last few zones a couple of months ago. I didn't track any numbers, but it did really seem it didn't take as long to get the fish I needed to finish up, vs when I first started fishing before Homestead. Could just be RNG, though...

I'm really glad to hear people have experienced this too. I broke my record of zones cleared in a day when i fished on my 1st warden, i completed 3 zones in 1 day

Tezlakipuka

You really have too much time @MyNameIsElias

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

According to my calculations .




Yes .

Pretty sure you made an mistake in line _32_ there

Megabear

In another news there are no more fish in the world. Ocean, lake, pond, etc are completely deprived and it has created a chain reaction of slow global death. Most shockingly, it was just one student that did this, with.. with a fishing pole.

Urkraft

so well...seriously. i also have the feeling they increased the droprate. i remember how hard my master angler was, how long i have been fishing for some of them, morrowind was very very fast compared to some zones back then.... actually fishing in morrowind was very disappointing in that case.