Make jumping have a stamina cost

CatchMeTrolling · July 2017

Bar swapping, animation canceling , switching pots , rhythm/flow and to confuse people into making threads like this .

TheDoomsdayMonster · July 2017

Maikon wrote: »

Because people exploit jump casting to make spells and abilities that otherwise require a cast time become instant cast, such as healing ritual.

This is exactly why they do it...

Ranger209 · July 2017

Bahahahahaha. Awesome. Can you macro jumps in with your light attack, skill, bash weave?[/quote]

of course you can

Ranger209 · July 2017

In my experience it's an FPS tactic for people who think they can dodge bullets. If there is actually a game mechanic that gets bypassed by doing this then that is all the more reason to apply a cost to eliminate it. They couldn't do anything about animation cancelling so they rolled with it like it was intended, but it wasn't, they just couldn't stop it without totally changing combat. If there is no game mechanic being bypassed then no one needs to jump continuously in combat, so applying a stamina cost shouldn't hurt anyone in combat. This is something they could stop without totally changing combat.

TARAFRAKA · July 2017

Ranger209 wrote: »

In my experience it's an FPS tactic for people who think they can dodge bullets. If there is actually a game mechanic that gets bypassed by doing this then that is all the more reason to apply a cost to eliminate it. They couldn't do anything about animation cancelling so they rolled with it like it was intended, but it wasn't, they just couldn't stop it without totally changing combat. If there is no game mechanic being bypassed then no one needs to jump continuously in combat, so applying a stamina cost shouldn't hurt anyone in combat. This is something they could stop without totally changing combat.

I want you to just read the last section of that and recognize how stupid it sounds.
So if someone wants to jump during role-play they have to make sure they have enough stamina to do it? Who cares if someone jumps in combat, it doesn't make them hard to Target.
And no it doesn't bypass Cast times. you can't jump and animation cancel faster that's a load of BS.

Rahotu · July 2017

Alucardo wrote: »

Actually, this was leaked

I sure hope they add a cooldown.

so,for hopheads only?

gpreid81 · July 2017

Iam a magic dk no idea why I jump it's generally right before I die lol

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

I think Deltia did a bouncing tutorial video I **** you not .

KitLightning · July 2017

Lets add more stamina drain to the game, it will surely make baits in a gank think twice, right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk

ninjaguyman · July 2017

I usually try to not hop during battles. hopping all the time usually ends up with me slow sliding down the side of some pebble.

but idk... when i see an enemy hopping i just tend to start hopping along with them while we fight lol.

Ranger209 · July 2017

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Ranger209 wrote: »

In my experience it's an FPS tactic for people who think they can dodge bullets. If there is actually a game mechanic that gets bypassed by doing this then that is all the more reason to apply a cost to eliminate it. They couldn't do anything about animation cancelling so they rolled with it like it was intended, but it wasn't, they just couldn't stop it without totally changing combat. If there is no game mechanic being bypassed then no one needs to jump continuously in combat, so applying a stamina cost shouldn't hurt anyone in combat. This is something they could stop without totally changing combat.

I want you to just read the next section of this and recognize how stupid it sounds.
So if someone wants to jump during role-play they have to make sure they have enough stamina to do it? Who cares if someone jumps in combat, it doesn't make them hard to Target.
And no it doesn't bypass Cast times. you can't jump and animation cancel faster that's a load of BS.

Sorry, I forgot how critical jumping during role play is. I prefer to roll dodge and sprint when I role play... nerf jump please...

rfennell_ESO · July 2017

It probably hides certain animations and probably allows them to avoid certain ground effects.

I also doubt they are manually jumping...

The people that do it don't do anything unless it's an advantage.

They should make jump cost 5% stamina.

Dredlord · July 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Stupid posts should have a stamina cost

But they do and i bet youre all tuckered out now...

CyrusArya · July 2017

Tactical Hopping serves 2 purposes:

1.) First and foremost, to set a tempo and rhythm for combat.

2.) To trigger zergbads as can be seen in this thread.

Alucardo · July 2017

CyrusArya wrote: »

Tactical Hopping serves 2 purposes:

1.) First and foremost, to set a tempo and rhythm for combat.

2.) To trigger zergbads as can be seen in this thread.

3) To assert dominance and alert people to how pro you are

Lore_lai · July 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

Because people exploit jump casting to make spells and abilities that otherwise require a cast time become instant cast, such as healing ritual.

This is exactly why they do it...

Illuminati bunny hopping conspiracy!

Ranger209 · July 2017

KitLightning wrote: »

Lets add more stamina drain to the game, it will surely make baits in a gank think twice, right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk

Thank you for this, you read my mind

Drachenfier · July 2017

I do tend to have a targeting preference for bunny hoppers. I have an unreasonable dislike for them, so I always try to kill them first.

NBrookus · July 2017

Ranger209 wrote: »

Tired of going to battle and suddenly it breaks out into house party USA

Funny you should say that.

Confessions of a jumper

I had a really hard time learning to weave. I just didn't grok the whole thing. So finally after failing for a long time, I took a page from music lessons and CPR classes, fired up some 60bpm music and internalized that rhythm. Now it's a habit. If I start weaving with a destro staff I'm probably jumping without even noticing it.

Jumping doesn't allow you to bypass cooldowns. It's not related to macros. It doesn't make you avoid damage. It serves no actual game purpose other than being a just a timing fidget like a guitarist tapping his foot. (And apparently triggering people by annoying them.)

So if you see me jumping in Cyrodiil, it's because somewhere in the back of my head I've got my sparkly silver platform shoes and disco groove on stayin' aliiiiiiiiiive-hiiiive-iiiiiive.

rimmidimdim · July 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

It probably hides certain animations and probably allows them to avoid certain ground effects.

I also doubt they are manually jumping...

The people that do it don't do anything unless it's an advantage.

They should make jump cost 5% stamina.

I can agree with this, you want to look like an idiot, pay for it. Same as the jester personality, you use it, you look like an idoit, so make it impossible to refuse duel invitations.

Anti_Virus · July 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Stupid posts should have a stamina cost

He/she knows what it is. [Trigger Warning]

Anti_Virus · July 2017

Alucardo wrote: »

Actually, this was leaked

I sure hope they add a cooldown.

Out of ideas huh wrobel?

MisterBigglesworth · July 2017

Jumping while casting Dive should cause you to set the Cliff Racer free!

Dark Exchange + Jump = old Dark Exchange animation (nerf Sorc)

Jump + Path of Darkness = creates a literal path in mid-air you can walk on

Jump + Piercing Javelin = pole-vault over keep walls

Jumping temporarily turns Lava Whip into Lava Naynay

Stratforge · July 2017

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

It probably hides certain animations and probably allows them to avoid certain ground effects.

I also doubt they are manually jumping...

The people that do it don't do anything unless it's an advantage.

They should make jump cost 5% stamina.

What animations does it hide? What ground AOEs do you think it avoids? Do you really think people macro their jump button? I have so many questions.

Gilvoth · July 2017

please make jumping cost stamina.

Lore_lai · July 2017

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

please make jumping cost stamina.

Of all the silly, stupid requests - I seriously don't get this. Then again, I shouldn't - you people are just unreasonable.
Whether we bunny hop or not it doesn't hurt you in the slightest. Despite all the conspiracy theories - no, hopping around doesn't give you some kind of uber-mega GOD buff that only a few, select people have access to.
Like - do you guys even hear yourself? XDDD

Balsagna · July 2017

rimmidimdim wrote: »

I get the OP's point, it is annoying watching people jump continually in battles. I think they believe you can't target them or something as they jump, probably habits from other games that this tactic works. But not in eso. This would affect cliff climbing battles though! Yes it should cost stamina climbing rocks in battle's. Idk, but I actually think it's an interesting idea. Cheers.

Or it's fun?

All this thread is going to do is make me jump around more because it apparently annoys people...and I love doing that.

Eirella · July 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Stupid posts should have a stamina cost

^

Gilvoth · July 2017

i hope it happens, jumping should cost stamina, and it is amazing that it was never implemented.

Alpheu5 · July 2017

I don't know why other players do it, but I usually do it as a way to conserve my directional momentum without holding down WASD while aiming. It lets me keep moving in my wanted direction while my fingers press the necessary skill keys. It's also downright mandatory against the players that feel the need to attack you while inside your player model, where it's impossible to target them back.