ZOS WHY DID YOU DO THIS?!?!

Evan8642 · July 2017

you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?

Sigtric · July 2017

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Evan8642 wrote: »

you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?

Reduced repair costs from Inpen trait was mathematically proven to net you more total gold when gold farming than prosperous did anyway.

Vercingetorix · July 2017

The prosperous trait change was a nerf against botters. I love it.

Evan8642 · July 2017

umm. WHOEVER SAID THAT/ DID THE MATH WAS A ******* *****

DUH! I COULD JUST KEEP MY ARMOR AT 0 AND FARM HUMANOIDS AND COMPLETELY NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REPAIRING ARMOR, OR USE THE x500 REPAIR KITS I GOT FROM WRITS ON MY 13 MULES.

impen has NOTHING to do with making money! it reduces your critical hit damage by 3% per piece or something close to 3% Prosperous stacked with my eso + money gain buff, and granted me extra cash.

wolfxspice · July 2017

i want my gold grind trait back, even though it hasn't been taken yet

ChandraNalaar · July 2017

Evan8642 wrote: »

umm. WHOEVER SAID THAT/ DID THE MATH WAS A ******* *****

DUH! I COULD JUST KEEP MY ARMOR AT 0 AND FARM HUMANOIDS AND COMPLETELY NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REPAIRING ARMOR, OR USE THE x500 REPAIR KITS I GOT FROM WRITS ON MY 13 MULES.

impen has NOTHING to do with making money! it reduces your critical hit damage by 3% per piece or something close to 3% Prosperous stacked with my eso + money gain buff, and granted me extra cash.

Impen reduces the amount of wear and tear your armor takes, thus making repair costs cheaper.

Evan8642 · July 2017

and it HAS been taken if your playing on the PTS, which means it WILL be taken on the 11th of August (or whenever that release date was)

Darlgon · July 2017

Evan8642 wrote: »

umm. WHOEVER SAID THAT/ DID THE MATH WAS A ******* *****

DUH! I COULD JUST KEEP MY ARMOR AT 0 AND FARM HUMANOIDS AND COMPLETELY NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REPAIRING ARMOR, OR USE THE x500 REPAIR KITS I GOT FROM WRITS ON MY 13 MULES.

impen has NOTHING to do with making money! it reduces your critical hit damage by 3% per piece or something close to 3% Prosperous stacked with my eso + money gain buff, and granted me extra cash.

Impenetrable:
-Reduces item's durability damage 50%
-Increases Critical Resistance
(amount scales on gear's level)

Prosperous:
Increases gold from looting enemies by: 2.5, 4, 5.5, 7.0, 8.5 (W,G,B,P,G)

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Bouldercleave · July 2017

Are you kidding me? It was by FAR the most useless trait in the world. This just proves how people will find a way to *** about anything.

You sir, shame us all.

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Iarao · July 2017

i am sure the crown store will carry provisions that will buff your looted gold.

Evan8642 wrote: »

you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?

Juhasow · July 2017

Evan8642 wrote: »

umm. WHOEVER SAID THAT/ DID THE MATH WAS A ******* *****

DUH! I COULD JUST KEEP MY ARMOR AT 0 AND FARM HUMANOIDS AND COMPLETELY NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REPAIRING ARMOR, OR USE THE x500 REPAIR KITS I GOT FROM WRITS ON MY 13 MULES.

impen has NOTHING to do with making money! it reduces your critical hit damage by 3% per piece or something close to 3% Prosperous stacked with my eso + money gain buff, and granted me extra cash.

Or You could just make real money by selling items worth something. I dont know who except bots can make money by collecting low amount of gold from trash mobs when You can easily get 10x more other ways in less time.

Aso impen redues critical dmg taken and increase item durability so it takes more time to completly broke it.

Evan8642 · July 2017

so the only people who woudlnt consider this change drastic would be the people that WERENT USING IT FOR ITS PURPOSE CURRENTLY and they are just looking at it as "oh we get something new"

THERE CURRENTLY IS A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO INCREASE YOUR GOLD PER POCKETED ENEMY AND THEY ARE MAKING IT MORE THAN DIFFICULT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSES

it would have made more sense to say "oh well instead of 9 traits we are boosting the cap to 18 traits, and then added that new recovery trait as one of the researchable traits. vs tearing apart a system that people are currently using for day in and day out procedures.

the same was said about "haste" before they took it away, now i bet a bunch of you wish you still had that haste trait after they decreased the casting time of weapons by 15% or so.....

same is being said about prosperous. FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO USE IT, they arent happy.

example i crafted a level 150 twiceborn star set in all prosperous, i'm going to have to deconstruct it after this update because it wont do what its supposed to do for ME

Evan8642 · July 2017

and again , if my armor is at 0 , and its not effecting my gameplay and my power is fine, why would i spend money to continuously repair it vs just keeping it at 0....

JamieAubrey · July 2017

Was nothing worse that finishing a dungeon and getting the monster helm BOOM Prosp trait

Insta decon

max_only · July 2017

TIL "people" (generous since it's just the one person) actually cared about Preposterous trait.

Evan8642 · July 2017

yall sound broke.

if i'm farming for something like necromancer, i go to the public dungeon (obsidian scar) and kill everything including bosses while farming necro for money, in this case i wear prosperous to boost the amount of money i am gaining for killing things while running to bosses

those who wear divines or impen during things like this are more interested in making less money while spending time farming necro weapons and such.

Betheny · July 2017

Are they going to rename this trait? Calling a regen type trait "Prosperous" seems a bit ehh.

Sigtric · July 2017

someone forgot their prozac today?

Sigtric · July 2017

Betheny wrote: »

Are they going to rename this trait? Calling a regen type trait "Prosperous" seems a bit ehh.

it does seem weird. lol

It's still useless anyway

Sigtric · July 2017

Evan8642 wrote: »

and again , if my armor is at 0 , and its not effecting my gameplay and my power is fine, why would i spend money to continuously repair it vs just keeping it at 0....

because armor traits don't work when the piece is broken...

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

90% gain to gold ... LOL ya right .

JamieAubrey · July 2017

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/273766/why-prosperous-is-preposterous

Kay1 · July 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

and again , if my armor is at 0 , and its not effecting my gameplay and my power is fine, why would i spend money to continuously repair it vs just keeping it at 0....

because armor traits don't work when the piece is broken...

Nooo, it was funny don't tell him

Sigtric · July 2017

Kay1 wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

and again , if my armor is at 0 , and its not effecting my gameplay and my power is fine, why would i spend money to continuously repair it vs just keeping it at 0....

because armor traits don't work when the piece is broken...

Nooo, it was funny don't tell him

Sorry!

Dymence · July 2017

Dude if you're using prosperous to farm gold you're playing this game wrong

Rahotu · July 2017

Betheny wrote: »

Are they going to rename this trait? Calling a regen type trait "Prosperous" seems a bit ehh.

Prosperstain

Evan8642 · July 2017

i'm very aware that you get 0 armor trait and eff'd-up mundus stone effects, lower physical and spell defense etc, however to direct attention to your remark of, "because armor traits don't work when your armor is broken" so to that point, 0% prosperous armor would be the same value to me as 100% impen. currently, in terms of maximizing your gold when defeating enemies, and i wouldnt waste money on repairing armor over and over again, i would leave it at zero if it wasn't impacting my game play, or use repair kits which i earned from writs, or repair it when i got to town.

i wouldn't use impen as an argument for prosperous either considering the more enemies you kill the more money you get, meaning i either get 250-350 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets, or 500-700 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets.

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ArchMikem · July 2017

Wow where did all you people come from? The entire time it's been nothing but people hating on the trait, but now that something's been done to it suddenly there are people wanting it back?

Waffennacht · July 2017

Evan8642 wrote: »

i'm very aware that you get 0 armor trait and eff'd-up mundus stone effects, lower physical and spell defense etc, however to direct attention to your remark of, "because armor traits don't work when your armor is broken" so to that point, 0% prosperous armor would be the same value to me as 100% impen. currently, in terms of maximizing your gold when defeating enemies, and i wouldnt waste money on repairing armor over and over again, i would leave it at zero if it wasn't impacting my game play, or use repair kits which i earned from writs, or repair it when i got to town.

i wouldn't use impen as an argument for prosperous either considering the more enemies you kill the more money you get, meaning i either get 250-350 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets, or 500-700 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets.

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- You get zero additional money from broken prosperous armor
- to make money you must repair prosperous armor
- repairing prosperous armor results in money lost not gained
- impen prevents you from having to repair as often, meaning you keep more of the gold you made

You would have make a whole new set of prosperous armor each time it went to zero, - which costs time/gold wuteva.

You're losing money if you ever wear prosperous over impen. Period. Even if you use the whole "I'll keep it at zero argument"

You need to think more critically

DocFrost72 · July 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

and again , if my armor is at 0 , and its not effecting my gameplay and my power is fine, why would i spend money to continuously repair it vs just keeping it at 0....

because armor traits don't work when the piece is broken...