ZOS WHY DID YOU DO THIS?!?!

Anhedonie

Eh...lol, I guess?

Rouven

Fret not, the prosperous token (50% increased gold drops for 30 minutes) will replace the set soon in your local crate

I never used the set, always thought faster killing would be better, but does anyone have any actual numbers? Whatever the average in an hour was/is?

Raeph

You're poor now. Enjoy the government cheese.

R0C95

Evan8642 wrote: »

yall sound broke.


if i'm farming for something like necromancer, i go to the public dungeon (obsidian scar) and kill everything including bosses while farming necro for money, in this case i wear prosperous to boost the amount of money i am gaining for killing things while running to bosses

those who wear divines or impen during things like this are more interested in making less money while spending time farming necro weapons and such.

This doesn't make any sense. You don't factor time and drop quantity in your equation. I bet I could run my top dps current setup stamsorc with all divine gear and farm a dungeon way faster than the same gear in prosperous. This means that I can do more dungeons which equals to more gold drops, and more importantly, more trash items that I can sell in a lesser amount of time.

Given this and not that I want to test it, but when time is factored into this and the amount of trash items drop increases, I can't see how prosperous can outperform time. Glad to hear they are getting rid of the trait.

Crafts_Many_Boxes

R0C95 wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

yall sound broke.


if i'm farming for something like necromancer, i go to the public dungeon (obsidian scar) and kill everything including bosses while farming necro for money, in this case i wear prosperous to boost the amount of money i am gaining for killing things while running to bosses

those who wear divines or impen during things like this are more interested in making less money while spending time farming necro weapons and such.

This doesn't make any sense. You don't factor time and drop quantity in your equation. I bet I could run my top dps current setup stamsorc with all divine gear and farm a dungeon way faster than the same gear in prosperous. This means that I can do more dungeons which equals to more gold drops, and more importantly, more trash items that I can sell in a lesser amount of time.

Given this and not that I want to test it, but when time is factored into this and the amount of trash items drop increases, I can't see how prosperous can outperform time. Glad to hear they are getting rid of the trait.

When you have groups of mobs that die in ~5-10s, divines vs prosperous doesn't make a whole lot of difference. But even if divines is slightly faster, prosperous would probably outweigh it. At least, for dungeons / instances where there are far more (humanoid) mobs than bosses.

And all of that aside, getting a full divines set of anything anymore is either tremendously expensive or time-consuming because divines prices are jacked up crazy high for everything everywhere. Meanwhile, prosperous is in the bargain bin. I got a full set of bahraha's curse and withered hand (my go-to farming sets on my templar since i'm only cp 340 and can easily die without survival sets) for like maybe 10k, including purple jewelry. I probably would have spent ten times that for a full divines set, and that's assuming I could even find what I was looking for.

Sigtric

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

R0C95 wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

yall sound broke.


if i'm farming for something like necromancer, i go to the public dungeon (obsidian scar) and kill everything including bosses while farming necro for money, in this case i wear prosperous to boost the amount of money i am gaining for killing things while running to bosses

those who wear divines or impen during things like this are more interested in making less money while spending time farming necro weapons and such.

This doesn't make any sense. You don't factor time and drop quantity in your equation. I bet I could run my top dps current setup stamsorc with all divine gear and farm a dungeon way faster than the same gear in prosperous. This means that I can do more dungeons which equals to more gold drops, and more importantly, more trash items that I can sell in a lesser amount of time.

Given this and not that I want to test it, but when time is factored into this and the amount of trash items drop increases, I can't see how prosperous can outperform time. Glad to hear they are getting rid of the trait.

When you have groups of mobs that die in ~5-10s, divines vs prosperous doesn't make a whole lot of difference. But even if divines is slightly faster, prosperous would probably outweigh it. At least, for dungeons / instances where there are far more (humanoid) mobs than bosses.

And all of that aside, getting a full divines set of anything anymore is either tremendously expensive or time-consuming because divines prices are jacked up crazy high for everything everywhere. Meanwhile, prosperous is in the bargain bin. I got a full set of bahraha's curse and withered hand (my go-to farming sets on my templar since i'm only cp 340 and can easily die without survival sets) for like maybe 10k, including purple jewelry. I probably would have spent ten times that for a full divines set, and that's assuming I could even find what I was looking for.

Getting divines isn't that hard or costly, stop crafting boxes and craft some armor for 2 minutes.

bubbygink

Man I thought the whole "ZOS changed my name to FancyKale" was clearly gonna be the best rage thread of the week but this one is really giving it a run for its money.

Megabear

I'm thinking only the botters would hate to see changes to Prosperous.

Crafts_Many_Boxes

Sigtric wrote: »

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

R0C95 wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

yall sound broke.


if i'm farming for something like necromancer, i go to the public dungeon (obsidian scar) and kill everything including bosses while farming necro for money, in this case i wear prosperous to boost the amount of money i am gaining for killing things while running to bosses

those who wear divines or impen during things like this are more interested in making less money while spending time farming necro weapons and such.

This doesn't make any sense. You don't factor time and drop quantity in your equation. I bet I could run my top dps current setup stamsorc with all divine gear and farm a dungeon way faster than the same gear in prosperous. This means that I can do more dungeons which equals to more gold drops, and more importantly, more trash items that I can sell in a lesser amount of time.

Given this and not that I want to test it, but when time is factored into this and the amount of trash items drop increases, I can't see how prosperous can outperform time. Glad to hear they are getting rid of the trait.

When you have groups of mobs that die in ~5-10s, divines vs prosperous doesn't make a whole lot of difference. But even if divines is slightly faster, prosperous would probably outweigh it. At least, for dungeons / instances where there are far more (humanoid) mobs than bosses.

And all of that aside, getting a full divines set of anything anymore is either tremendously expensive or time-consuming because divines prices are jacked up crazy high for everything everywhere. Meanwhile, prosperous is in the bargain bin. I got a full set of bahraha's curse and withered hand (my go-to farming sets on my templar since i'm only cp 340 and can easily die without survival sets) for like maybe 10k, including purple jewelry. I probably would have spent ten times that for a full divines set, and that's assuming I could even find what I was looking for.

Getting divines isn't that hard or costly, stop crafting boxes and craft some armor for 2 minutes.

Did you not read what I just wrote? I need the set bonuses from bahraha / withered hand (at least bahraha) to farm effectively, so crafting them myself wasn't an option. There are no crafted sets that are good for farming, at least good enough to allow someone primarily just spamming aoe abils to survive.

That's the beauty of using my setup. I just plop down a few aoe, and either heavy attack or jabs until they're dead. No need to self heal because of the set bonuses, 0 downtime. Mobs die in <10s.

SirAndy

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

im too pretty for math

And grammar. Nailed it!

Rouven

SirAndy wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

im too pretty for math

And grammar. Nailed it!

Is there a too sexy smiley?

I loved the rofl one, tapping out and everything, made me laugh just looking at it.

Trashkan

Is this really a are you nerfing prosperous thread. Lmao hahahahahaha.

Betsararie

People defending prosperous are so funny.... you never learned how to play the game did you?

Bouldercleave

Trashkan wrote: »

Is this really a are you nerfing prosperous thread. Lmao hahahahahaha.

IKR? At first I thought it had to be a joke, then I thought it was a troll thread, but I really believe that the OP is serious.

Personally I'm stunned that we aren't all throwing ZoS a party to thank them for updating this useless, USELESS trait.

Jitterbug

So there was one guy who liked prosperous.

Good to know...

Sigtric

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

R0C95 wrote: »

Evan8642 wrote: »

yall sound broke.


if i'm farming for something like necromancer, i go to the public dungeon (obsidian scar) and kill everything including bosses while farming necro for money, in this case i wear prosperous to boost the amount of money i am gaining for killing things while running to bosses

those who wear divines or impen during things like this are more interested in making less money while spending time farming necro weapons and such.

This doesn't make any sense. You don't factor time and drop quantity in your equation. I bet I could run my top dps current setup stamsorc with all divine gear and farm a dungeon way faster than the same gear in prosperous. This means that I can do more dungeons which equals to more gold drops, and more importantly, more trash items that I can sell in a lesser amount of time.

Given this and not that I want to test it, but when time is factored into this and the amount of trash items drop increases, I can't see how prosperous can outperform time. Glad to hear they are getting rid of the trait.

When you have groups of mobs that die in ~5-10s, divines vs prosperous doesn't make a whole lot of difference. But even if divines is slightly faster, prosperous would probably outweigh it. At least, for dungeons / instances where there are far more (humanoid) mobs than bosses.

And all of that aside, getting a full divines set of anything anymore is either tremendously expensive or time-consuming because divines prices are jacked up crazy high for everything everywhere. Meanwhile, prosperous is in the bargain bin. I got a full set of bahraha's curse and withered hand (my go-to farming sets on my templar since i'm only cp 340 and can easily die without survival sets) for like maybe 10k, including purple jewelry. I probably would have spent ten times that for a full divines set, and that's assuming I could even find what I was looking for.

Getting divines isn't that hard or costly, stop crafting boxes and craft some armor for 2 minutes.

Did you not read what I just wrote? I need the set bonuses from bahraha / withered hand (at least bahraha) to farm effectively, so crafting them myself wasn't an option. There are no crafted sets that are good for farming, at least good enough to allow someone primarily just spamming aoe abils to survive.

That's the beauty of using my setup. I just plop down a few aoe, and either heavy attack or jabs until they're dead. No need to self heal because of the set bonuses, 0 downtime. Mobs die in <10s.

Sometimes I guess I fail at humor.

Heroeric1337

Evan8642 wrote: »

and again , if my armor is at 0 , and its not effecting my gameplay and my power is fine, why would i spend money to continuously repair it vs just keeping it at 0....

If I recall correctly, once you're armor reaches 0 you're trait wont work anymore until repaired. Might as well have armor thats not gonna break down as quickly then to have armor you'll have to spend more gold on to repair to keep the benefit up with.

GreyWolf_79

Everybody says that nobody uses prosperous gear. That's not true, I use it. It comes in handy as crafting research fodder sometimes.

SFDB

Douglas Adams wrote:

"The thing is hopeless. It's the major reason the original company went bust. I suggest you use it as a big paperweight.'
'Well, I wouldn't like to do that, sir,' the policeman persisted. 'The door would keep blowing open.'
'What do you mean, officer?' asked Richard.
'I use it to keep the door closed, sir. Nasty draughts down our station this time of year. In the summer, of course, we beat suspects round the head with it.'

jaye63

Craft Impen gear. Farm a good spot. I farm a delve with 1 boss and 8 chests plus a dozen adz. Magplar with impen Julianos gear. I've made nearly a million gold in a week. Granted Im retired and can farm all day, but it's way more than I would have made otherwise.
There are 3 sets per zone, 7 gear items (excluding weapons of course) and with the 2 traits of prosperous and training, thats 42 items that could be removed from the loot tables and make farming the bloody gear that much easier. In fact, Prosperous, Training and non named gear should be removed from boss loot, advanced chests(or intermediate - whichever is higher) and Master chests. Leave em in adz drops and low level chest drops.

theflawlessteabagger

Evan8642 wrote: »

you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?

If u were relying on prosperous u prob got 20k in the bank lol . Id say L2farm n L2guildtrader

Lol crying about prosperous what a joke