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ZOS WHY DID YOU DO THIS?!?!
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AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »i'm very aware that you get 0 armor trait and eff'd-up mundus stone effects, lower physical and spell defense etc, however to direct attention to your remark of, "because armor traits don't work when your armor is broken" so to that point, 0% prosperous armor would be the same value to me as 100% impen. currently, in terms of maximizing your gold when defeating enemies, and i wouldnt waste money on repairing armor over and over again, i would leave it at zero if it wasn't impacting my game play, or use repair kits which i earned from writs, or repair it when i got to town.
i wouldn't use impen as an argument for prosperous either considering the more enemies you kill the more money you get, meaning i either get 250-350 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets, or 500-700 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets.
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- You get zero additional money from broken prosperous armor
- to make money you must repair prosperous armor
- repairing prosperous armor results in money lost not gained
- impen prevents you from having to repair as often, meaning you keep more of the gold you made
You would have make a whole new set of prosperous armor each time it went to zero, - which costs time/gold wuteva.
You're losing money if you ever wear prosperous over impen. Period. Even if you use the whole "I'll keep it at zero argument"
You need to think more critically
Critical thinking is clearly not a strong suit for them
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Oakmontowls_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭In the thread that was calculating the value of preposterous, the findings were that at 5 piece purple preposterous you actually gain slightly more gold than using impen. However It is so slight that it is still better to use impen so as to have armor that is still useful outside of grinding gold.0 -
TARAFRAKA✭✭✭✭✭OP what they're trying to tell you is if you are grinding with your prosperous gear completely broken you are not getting the bonus from wearing prosperous at all2 -
ProfesseurFreder✭✭✭✭✭Some folks have forgotten that this is a GAME.
Either that, or they have too much time on their hands."Nothing by which all human passion and hope and folly can be mirrored and then proved ever was just a game."
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WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Golding out prosperous gear is like golding a crafted, non-set inferno staff. Crazy thing is I've seen it before. Anyway, I'm sure you and all of the 11 players like you are upset about prosperous, and yes, it still is really weak, but it is an improvement than needed to happen.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?4 -
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This guy... how can you complain about this? I mean seriously?Edited by Koensol on July 11, 2017 7:33AM14 -
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Ozstryker✭✭✭✭so... I never got this trait, I kinda figured it might net enough gold to repair an item?? Beyond that, pointless! as u easily pick up more than enough trash to fully repair all your items..
There are a few traits that need a rework imo, this was one, Hopefully others will follow.
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Bouldercleave wrote: »Are you shitting me? It was by FAR the most useless crap trait in the world. This just proves how people will find a way to *** about anything.
You sir, shame us all.
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IcyDeadPeople✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Killing mobs doesn't provide very much gold, even with the 90% boost. You can earn gold much faster just cooking stacks of green food and selling it to the NPC vendor. Farming mats or almost any other trading activity will provide even more.
Edited by IcyDeadPeople on July 11, 2017 8:19AM5 -
mwo1480✭✭✭✭sure this "balance patch" feels just like morrowind balance changes more for the pvp players complaining on forums, and a big [snip] to all pve players, but really complaining about the gold trait that like 0.1% of players use
[Edit for inappropriate language]Edited by ZOS_Mika on July 11, 2017 2:52PMeu/pc
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SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭Lol, do people actually use prosperous the way it was intended? haha. Well it stops the botters who do make money from it.
The question is, will it be added to loot tables in trials now that it has a more useful purpose. Instead of worrying about 6 traits, we might have to worry about 7, not looking forward to that, please don't add it to trials ZOS.0 -
Duckbutta✭✭✭you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Reyou nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?
Reduced repair costs from Inpen trait was mathematically proven to net you more total gold when gold farming than prosperous did anyway.
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Maikon✭✭✭✭you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?
The only people pissed about this are bots, I think ZOS should look at your account. You seem suspicious.2 -
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Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭you nerfed prosperous traits on armor and made it more of a combative trait (clap clap bravo progression i get it) however since your taking away my +90% gain to gold from monsters and replacing it with "increases stamina magicka health recovery by 11 per armor" where do i now find a source to increase my gold from looted enemies? did you / are you planning on coming out with a crafted set which 5 piece does this? or is there a new type of buff that is going to give us an increased rate of gold gained per enemy?
This guy is either an OP troll, or one of the worst players in the game.
If it is a troll it is a bad troll. If you are going to troll don't make yourself look like a s'wit doing it. Gotta be smarter about it for the good troll.
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gkitti7✭✭I have heard about a method where an imperial can use a full prosperous set and farm specific locations to get a lot of gold. I don't know the details but maybe that's why the op is upset?0
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✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »Killing mobs doesn't provide very much gold, even with the 90% boost. You can earn gold much faster just cooking stacks of green food and selling it to the NPC vendor. Farming mats or almost any other trading activity will provide even more.
U r not supposed to mention that to the official forums, shame on you!0 -
Crafts_Many_Boxes✭✭✭✭✭While it isn't exactly eloquent, I feel where OP is coming from. I have a prosperous set on my templar alt, and when I'm tired and just want to "zen out" and grind some gold, I can go into a public dungeon and solo the humanoid mob packs.
Even IF I didn't have dozens of heavy repair kits at any given time and actually had to pay for repair costs, the mathematical gains from killing humanoid (especially imperial) enemies for one hour far outweighs any repair cost benefits from impenetrable. I did a by-the-numbers breakdown to prove all of this in the other prosperous thread going right now.
I was actually going to gold out my prosperous set one of these days lol, seemed like a good long term investment. Oh well, not anymore. On the bright side, as some have noted here, I suppose it WILL cut down on bot gold, which is good I guess?0 -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »i'm very aware that you get 0 armor trait and eff'd-up mundus stone effects, lower physical and spell defense etc, however to direct attention to your remark of, "because armor traits don't work when your armor is broken" so to that point, 0% prosperous armor would be the same value to me as 100% impen. currently, in terms of maximizing your gold when defeating enemies, and i wouldnt waste money on repairing armor over and over again, i would leave it at zero if it wasn't impacting my game play, or use repair kits which i earned from writs, or repair it when i got to town.
i wouldn't use impen as an argument for prosperous either considering the more enemies you kill the more money you get, meaning i either get 250-350 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets, or 500-700 gold for a pile of enemies with pockets.
[Edit to remove flame]
- You get zero additional money from broken prosperous armor
- to make money you must repair prosperous armor
- repairing prosperous armor results in money lost not gained
- impen prevents you from having to repair as often, meaning you keep more of the gold you made
You would have make a whole new set of prosperous armor each time it went to zero, - which costs time/gold wuteva.
You're losing money if you ever wear prosperous over impen. Period. Even if you use the whole "I'll keep it at zero argument"
You need to think more critically
im too pretty for math0
at this thread, reinstate LOL button. 
