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Inig0✭✭✭✭exploiter cp passive is so gud.
also the claim "your bad players are more bad than our bad players" is probably one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in awhile; true or not. I certainly have no metric just seems difficult to gauge.Edited by Inig0 on July 7, 2017 3:57PMGM: Mechanically Challenged
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✭✭exploiter cp passive is so gud.
also the claim "your bad players are more bad than our bad players" is probably one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in awhile; true or not. I certainly have no metric just seems difficult to gauge.
well, just compare with the last video on this thread :
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328664/kitesquad-small-scale-pvp-video-series-7-7-17-warden-pov-first-post-updated#latest
and tell me the amount of counter play is as low
I think Vyr Cor's build is truly original and props for making it work, but yeah like everyone else said I don't think it would work on EU1 -
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Hah you totally got me wrong, i'm always enjoying your videos, they are interesting and new, not to mention you always play DK
You got an awesome just for the idea of utilising Fury to get ridiculous Spelldamage, that 17K Leap was awesome! 
All I was saying is that this probably wouldn't work on EU because the pugs are so much more cancerous and tryhard.
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Inig0✭✭✭✭exploiter cp passive is so gud.
also the claim "your bad players are more bad than our bad players" is probably one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in awhile; true or not. I certainly have no metric just seems difficult to gauge.
well, just compare with the last video on this thread :
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328664/kitesquad-small-scale-pvp-video-series-7-7-17-warden-pov-first-post-updated#latest
and tell me the amount of counter play is as low
I think Vyr Cor's build is truly original and props for making it work, but yeah like everyone else said I don't think it would work on EU
meh i watched your latest vid (sick clips btw love the use of the warden toolkit shimmering shield is crazy good) and see that same bs on na. I have no quarry with you; just hyperbole like that. Like i said whether you or anyone think its true or not there is no legitimate metric one could construct to accurately define something like that so saying it is just ignorant.GM: Mechanically Challenged
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Anne_Firehawk✭✭✭✭✭Anne_Firehawk wrote: »@DKsUnite
Hah you totally got me wrong, i'm always enjoying your videos, they are interesting and new, not to mention you always play DK You got an awesome just for the idea of utilising Fury to get ridiculous Spelldamage, that 17K Leap was awesome!
All I was saying is that this probably wouldn't work on EU because the pugs are so much more cancerous and tryhard.
Every farm has its potatoes, be it American or European.
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The_Duke✭✭✭✭Immovablestone wrote: »
I use ravager and pelinals on my templar hybridThe Duke
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭exploiter cp passive is so gud.
also the claim "your bad players are more bad than our bad players" is probably one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in awhile; true or not. I certainly have no metric just seems difficult to gauge.
well, just compare with the last video on this thread :
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328664/kitesquad-small-scale-pvp-video-series-7-7-17-warden-pov-first-post-updated#latest
and tell me the amount of counter play is as low
I think Vyr Cor's build is truly original and props for making it work, but yeah like everyone else said I don't think it would work on EU
meh i watched your latest vid (sick clips btw love the use of the warden toolkit shimmering shield is crazy good) and see that same bs on na. I have no quarry with you; just hyperbole like that. Like i said whether you or anyone think its true or not there is no legitimate metric one could construct to accurately define something like that so saying it is just ignorant.
Anyone i know that plays both servers shares the opinion that NA potatoes are much nicer to mash than EU ones.
If you don´t take the word of (multiple) people who have played both servers for more than an evening (mind you also having to play with increased latency) what do you want exactly?
I can see from the video that in half of the fights we normally have (especially as open field as showcased here) a dk not permablocking would be canned faster than i can write this sentence.Edited by Derra on July 7, 2017 7:49PM<Noricum>
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭exploiter cp passive is so gud.
also the claim "your bad players are more bad than our bad players" is probably one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in awhile; true or not. I certainly have no metric just seems difficult to gauge.
well, just compare with the last video on this thread :
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328664/kitesquad-small-scale-pvp-video-series-7-7-17-warden-pov-first-post-updated#latest
and tell me the amount of counter play is as low
I think Vyr Cor's build is truly original and props for making it work, but yeah like everyone else said I don't think it would work on EU
meh i watched your latest vid (sick clips btw love the use of the warden toolkit shimmering shield is crazy good) and see that same bs on na. I have no quarry with you; just hyperbole like that. Like i said whether you or anyone think its true or not there is no legitimate metric one could construct to accurately define something like that so saying it is just ignorant.
Anyone i know that plays both servers shares the opinion that NA potatoes are much nicer to mash than EU ones.
If you don´t take the word of (multiple) people who have played both servers for more than an evening what do you want exactly?
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The_Duke✭✭✭✭Great video regardless of the NA/EU pissing contest going on. Perhaps we should stop highjacking his thread and give props to a great DK regardless of server.The Duke
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Great video regardless of the NA/EU pissing contest going on. Perhaps we should stop highjacking his thread and give props to a great DK regardless of server.
I´m just waiting for paid server transfers
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Pretty sure most of EU's small scalers will leave if this came about. We'd have a server with higher ping but small scale possibility. And guilds may even swap too, seeing as how active NA's guild scene seems to be compared to EU's.1 -
BraidasNM✭✭✭✭exploiter cp passive is so gud.
also the claim "your bad players are more bad than our bad players" is probably one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in awhile; true or not. I certainly have no metric just seems difficult to gauge.
well, just compare with the last video on this thread :
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328664/kitesquad-small-scale-pvp-video-series-7-7-17-warden-pov-first-post-updated#latest
and tell me the amount of counter play is as low
I think Vyr Cor's build is truly original and props for making it work, but yeah like everyone else said I don't think it would work on EU
meh i watched your latest vid (sick clips btw love the use of the warden toolkit shimmering shield is crazy good) and see that same bs on na. I have no quarry with you; just hyperbole like that. Like i said whether you or anyone think its true or not there is no legitimate metric one could construct to accurately define something like that so saying it is just ignorant.
Anyone i know that plays both servers shares the opinion that NA potatoes are much nicer to mash than EU ones.
If you don´t take the word of (multiple) people who have played both servers for more than an evening (mind you also having to play with increased latency) what do you want exactly?
I can see from the video that in half of the fights we normally have (especially as open field as showcased here) a dk not permablocking would be canned faster than i can write this sentence.
speaking of latency, leo is, and versus mostly oceanic players who all have bad ping. i find aussies generally dont take the game very srsly either, prolly partly bc of pingYoutube
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✭Immovablestone wrote: »
@Immovablestone for some reason flame lash doesn't count as melee ( or at least it doesn't proc selene which is why I have contemplated using valkyn or slime instead) so procing ravager seems less reliable. Also fury comes up very quickly. All it takes is a dot or two and it will max out haha.Vyr Cor | Magicka Dragonknight | DC
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✭✭✭✭✭Immovablestone wrote: »
@Immovablestone for some reason flame lash doesn't count as melee ( or at least it doesn't proc selene which is why I have contemplated using valkyn or slime instead) so procing ravager seems less reliable. Also fury comes up very quickly. All it takes is a dot or two and it will max out haha.
Only skills with normal range (4 or 5m afaik) are considered melee.Edited by Derra on July 8, 2017 7:19AM<Noricum>
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✭Immovablestone wrote: »
@Immovablestone for some reason flame lash doesn't count as melee ( or at least it doesn't proc selene which is why I have contemplated using valkyn or slime instead) so procing ravager seems less reliable. Also fury comes up very quickly. All it takes is a dot or two and it will max out haha.
Only skills with normal range (4 or 5m afaik) are considered melee.
I feel like being 5m from someone is hardly considered melee xD You could fire a bow at that range lolVyr Cor | Magicka Dragonknight | DC
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭Immovablestone wrote: »
@Immovablestone for some reason flame lash doesn't count as melee ( or at least it doesn't proc selene which is why I have contemplated using valkyn or slime instead) so procing ravager seems less reliable. Also fury comes up very quickly. All it takes is a dot or two and it will max out haha.
Only skills with normal range (4 or 5m afaik) are considered melee.
I feel like being 5m from someone is hardly considered melee xD You could fire a bow at that range lol
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So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.2 -
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So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭
So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.Edited by Magıc on July 8, 2017 5:42PM0 -
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So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.
Well I know of at least 1 mag warden that uses it :P0 -
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So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.
Well just about every magsorc you meet open field runs it. It still pays for far more than it costs if you use it together with hardened and have 40k+ magica.<Noricum>
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✭✭Immovablestone wrote: »
@Immovablestone for some reason flame lash doesn't count as melee ( or at least it doesn't proc selene which is why I have contemplated using valkyn or slime instead) so procing ravager seems less reliable. Also fury comes up very quickly. All it takes is a dot or two and it will max out haha.
Selene's only procs on physical, disease, and poison damage. Concealed Weapon won't proc it, nor will Soul Harvest or other melee magicka attacks in my nightblade's kit. It still procs plenty on light attacks and the occasional Incap for me, or Puncture for you. Report it as a bug.
You should test if whip will proc Ravager. It may, and if it does, I agree that Ravager could be a potent alternative to Fury.
Also try changing your morphs to Forward Momentum and Elude for increased snare and root immunity and stamina sustain. Do you think mDK has sufficient sources of healing to go without Rally?
This reminds me of my old Pelinal's Necro 2h/resto Forward Momentum mageblade. Very nostalgic. I've seen a few people attempt Fury + Pelinal's on Templars before, but not DK. You also had more success than their hybridpars. Love it. Keep it up.Kena
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✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Immovablestone wrote: »
@Immovablestone for some reason flame lash doesn't count as melee ( or at least it doesn't proc selene which is why I have contemplated using valkyn or slime instead) so procing ravager seems less reliable. Also fury comes up very quickly. All it takes is a dot or two and it will max out haha.
Selene's only procs on physical, disease, and poison damage. Concealed Weapon won't proc it, nor will Soul Harvest or other melee magicka attacks in my nightblade's kit. It still procs plenty on light attacks and the occasional Incap for me, or Puncture for you. Report it as a bug.
You should test if whip will proc Ravager. It may, and if it does, I agree that Ravager could be a potent alternative to Fury.
Also try changing your morphs to Forward Momentum and Elude for increased snare and root immunity and stamina sustain. Do you think mDK has sufficient sources of healing to go without Rally?
This reminds me of my old Pelinal's Necro 2h/resto Forward Momentum mageblade. Very nostalgic. I've seen a few people attempt Fury + Pelinal's on Templars before, but not DK. You also had more success than their hybridpars. Love it. Keep it up.
Yeh I can force a proc with a quick light puncture bash but the tooltip is very misleading then.
Well fury is 300 more damage but just takes a little to start up. So it kind a balances out :P
Well that's what I'm currently trying to figure out. Rally when it bursts is nice and enough to save me for a little bit but sometimes I need multiple burst heals so some times its not enough and I feel like slottin coag
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭
So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.
Well just about every magsorc you meet open field runs it. It still pays for far more than it costs if you use it together with hardened and have 40k+ magica.
I don't see many mag sorcs run it in all honesty. Not EP/AD mag sorcs. I notice it more often on DC mag sorcs. Either that or the shield size is so small that I'm not noticing it.0 -
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So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.
Well just about every magsorc you meet open field runs it. It still pays for far more than it costs if you use it together with hardened and have 40k+ magica.
I don't see many mag sorcs run it in all honesty. Not EP/AD mag sorcs. I notice it more often on DC mag sorcs. Either that or the shield size is so small that I'm not noticing it.
I brought my sorc out of the garage last week. Still a little rusty on it, but my purely subjective experience just playing some open world PvP with various old builds and bar setups is that Harness is underwhelming and unnecessary. Front bar Hardened on the same key as Healing Ward with Inner Light front bar and Curse back bar felt best to me.Edited by NightbladeMechanics on July 9, 2017 2:41PMKena
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The_Duke✭✭✭✭I used spell weave prior to the nerf on my heavy pelinals DK. I also had 3 burst heals with coag, rally and embers all on the same bar. The healing was incredible and from both pools so If I ran low on one resource I had the other to keep me alive.Edited by The_Duke on July 9, 2017 3:37PMThe Duke
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »
So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.
Well just about every magsorc you meet open field runs it. It still pays for far more than it costs if you use it together with hardened and have 40k+ magica.
I don't see many mag sorcs run it in all honesty. Not EP/AD mag sorcs. I notice it more often on DC mag sorcs. Either that or the shield size is so small that I'm not noticing it.
I brought my sorc out of the garage last week. Still a little rusty on it, but my purely subjective experience just playing some open world PvP with various old builds and bar setups is that Harness is underwhelming and unnecessary. Front bar Hardened on the same key as Healing Ward with Inner Light front bar and Curse back bar felt best to me.
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✭✭✭✭✭NightbladeMechanics wrote: »
So the occasional mag sorc and maybe mag wardens? Possibly light armour magplars if they enjoy dying over and over.
occasional mag sorc... lol... it seems EU at least has no shortage of mag sorcs.
I play on EU. I don't use harness because what it provides for it's cost isn't worth it (even more so with the bastion CP star becoming a dead star, which is one of if not the main issue with harness/dampen atm). More and more sorcs are dropping it. Magblades are slowly adapting to the HoT builds without harness. Only LA magplars use harness, of which there are very few. Same for mDKs, heavy still BiS and I have no clue about mWardens.
Well just about every magsorc you meet open field runs it. It still pays for far more than it costs if you use it together with hardened and have 40k+ magica.
I don't see many mag sorcs run it in all honesty. Not EP/AD mag sorcs. I notice it more often on DC mag sorcs. Either that or the shield size is so small that I'm not noticing it.
I brought my sorc out of the garage last week. Still a little rusty on it, but my purely subjective experience just playing some open world PvP with various old builds and bar setups is that Harness is underwhelming and unnecessary. Front bar Hardened on the same key as Healing Ward with Inner Light front bar and Curse back bar felt best to me.
Never really liked curse backbar. It´s too much pressure lost against good opponents when you´re not constantly reapplying.
Why would you loose dmg on the first explosion @Magıc<Noricum>
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