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Should sorc pets have a time limit

bloodthirstyvampire
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Edited by bloodthirstyvampire on July 6, 2017 7:33PM

Should sorc pets have a time limit 209 votes

Yes
12%
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No
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  • Nestor
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    No
    They already take up 4 slots.
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    No
    Nestor wrote: »
    They already take up 4 slots.

    ^This.^
  • Biro123
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    Yes
    Yes please, they wouldn't be a toggle anymore, so won't need 2 slots then!
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  • Apherius
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    No
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Yes please, they wouldn't be a toggle anymore, so won't need 2 slots then!

    Why ... please , why do you put " yes " the question is " should sorc pets have a time limit " , no " Sould pet sorc have a time limit and not be a toogle anymore " .

    Of course it's not your fault , the option " other " is missing .
  • bloodthirstyvampire
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    Yes
    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots
  • Absalon
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    No
    Why would you want such a thing? Stop asking for nerfs, please...you are ruining the game.
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  • AcadianPaladin
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    No
    The idea of casting a timed summon to free its bar slot on the other bar has some merit for efficiency, but only if the duration is really long (like +15 minutes) to avoid micromanagement tedium.

    That said, I prefer to always have my matriarch and clannfear there and am very willing to slot them on both bars to have that.
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • DivinityDay
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    No
    Nestor wrote: »
    They already take up 4 slots.

    Exactly.
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  • DivinityDay
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    No
    The idea of casting a timed summon to free its bar slot on the other bar has some merit for efficiency......

    ....and if the casting animation is shorter.
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  • Megabear
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    Yes
    I voted wrong by accident :( No sorc pets should NOT have time limit.
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  • DocFrost72
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    Yes
    30 seconds, their active ability pinging every two seconds (clanfear and matriarch heal, tormentor dmg buff and scamp pulse) for the duration. Remove cast time and triple damage.

    Oh that'd be broken? I guess we could keep it the same as now then. Cause if you're interested in nerf ing pets, even I (a stamplar) gotta call bs.

    Edit: how does one stop magplar bots?
    Edited by DocFrost72 on July 6, 2017 8:14PM
  • Rouven
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    No
    The idea of casting a timed summon to free its bar slot on the other bar has some merit for efficiency......

    ....and if the casting animation is shorter.

    Let's say we leave the animation as is, make the summoned time 1 hour and I'm on board.

    But ... would that make pets mandatory and kill the build diversity? (read the last part with an upward inflection)
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  • Bryong9ub17_ESO
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    No
    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots

    This is the reason why you would suggest this (not so good) idea? You do realize that this would not stop bots. They would simply reprogram the bots to simply resummon the pets after the timer.
  • Dymence
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    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots

    Oh yeah, that's a fantastic idea. Ruin a class to stop bots. Can't believe noone has thought of this one yet!

    Seriously though, only when pets would stop being toggles then I'd be fine with it being on a timer.

    In fact I would prefer them being on a timer rather than being a toggle. But both? No way in hell.
    Edited by Dymence on July 6, 2017 8:49PM
  • Betsararie
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    No
    This is maybe the most ridiculous thing I have read on the forum yet.

    Sorc pets with a time limit!?

    Your idea is soo BAAAADDDDD. So bad.

    Pls, no more of your ideas.
  • Tasear
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    No
    Nestor wrote: »
    They already take up 4 slots.

    ^This.^

    This^
  • Diminish
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    No
    Just nerf every class so that it can only do 1 damage per attack. That'll teach those botters...
  • Gothren
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    no because then we would have to start from scratch to balance the skill and pets have come a long way to become balanced. years of waiting for the balance. I don't want to revert back to square one where its vastily underperforming.
  • zaria
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    No
    Absalon wrote: »
    Why would you want such a thing? Stop asking for nerfs, please...you are ruining the game.
    This, we saw that happened last time some asked for nerfs.
    Asking from nerfs from ZoS is as stupid as requesting close air support from the death star.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • zaria
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    No
    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots

    This is the reason why you would suggest this (not so good) idea? You do realize that this would not stop bots. They would simply reprogram the bots to simply resummon the pets after the timer.
    This templar bots was standard before they nerfed sweep.

    Many ways to stop bots. my first would be to look for weird behavior like player farming / grinding non stop for a 12 hours.
    Put this players on an watch list with extended logging.
    Now look for cheat software. You could identify cheat software simply by looking at stuff the bots run compared with all other players. or you could just google ESO bot and buy an copy of software.

    Punishment is permaban after positive proof of cheating have bot program running and use it, however they can buy back their account for 50-200$, they would however stay on the watch list.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • supaskrub
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    No
    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots

    I'm sure ZOS have ideas of their own that they may (or may not) be working on, but as someone else has already said Bots are just scripts and scripts can be easily and very quickly be changed and updated to counter whatever is implemented to prevent them doing what they do. It's a bit silly to start nerfing builds just because a Bot uses one of their abilities.
  • Raeph
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    Yes
    Yes, but not for the reason the OP wants them to be. All pets should have a time limit of like 30 mins, then remove the requirement to have them slotted on both bars.
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    No
    There should be a limit on how many heavy attacks without motion. Put it up to like 5 mins of constant heavy attacks
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  • Betsararie
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    No
    btw, the reason it's such a bad idea is pets already die enough as it is. They are also bugged in various ways.

    Adding a time limit (bad idea) would effectively destroy pets as a valid tactic in combat. There would be zero incentive to use them.

    As it is now, the pet system works very well. The familiar has the highest possible potential dps of any mag sorc build, but also brings with it some variables such as the pet dying. A welcome trade-off.
  • ParaNostram
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    No
    They should not have a limit unless they no longer need to be double slotted.
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  • Vercingetorix
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    Yes
    Yes, but not for the same reason as the OP. I would rather have a timed summon that only needs to be on one bar. If you use the summon ability again while the pet is active, you trigger the pet's ability - quite simple.

    When the pet expires or is killed, you proc the Rebate passive like normal and must resummon the pet. Since the pet will expire more frequently, this passive would need a slight buff in the magicka returned.

    A reasonable duration for each pet ability would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-5 mins, as that is normally how long most fights should last. In trials, recasts will be necessary, but not frequent, as those fights aren't much longer.
    Edited by Vercingetorix on July 7, 2017 12:54PM
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  • Princess_Ciri
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    No
    hell no. what even is this suggestion?
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  • Imhotep71
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    No
    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots

    So you punish the entire playerbase?

    Just...

    No
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Yes
    Make them last 60 seconds. That way you dont have to double bar it anymore.
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  • Betsararie
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    No
    Make them last 60 seconds. That way you dont have to double bar it anymore.

    LOL. Pet builds would die over night. Nice suggestion...
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