OMG THEY FIXED IT!!!

  • Chufu
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    BGs are very funny WHEN successfully getting in.

    I can't understand why this is a problem on EU, is it better on NA-Server?

    Today I've been waiting 1.5 hours to get into a bg with my group (3 man, DK, Sorc, Warden), we tried to relogg/regroup in the time 8pm-9:30pm (German time), but well... waiting... ready check...waiting...ready check...annoying. :neutral:

    Sometimes we can play at night, but well....who has time to queue BGs in the time 11pm-3am? I've tested that while my holidays, but normally I can't play at night when I have to wake up early next morning.
    Edited by Chufu on June 19, 2017 9:42PM
  • Blobsky
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    Great to see another maintenance tomorrow, that is the good attitude. Fingers crossed this finally fixes problems
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  • sadownik
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    @Blobsky isnt that for broken quests in Morrowind?
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    Said this before, do BGs like the lobby system of some fps games like CoD or Payday2 or something.

    Reasons being, their lobby system are much better, and you can actually get into a game fast on pre maded groups, unlike this rubbish.

    Also, it is of monumental frustration slaughtering enemy teams of equal rank, (if your are lucky), then to have everyone kicked out from the game, why? cos someone rage quit, that is their problem, why penalise everyone else on that particular arena.

    On fps games with lobby matchmaking systems, it does not matter if players leave, everyone else, dependent on whether the game crashes out or whatever, still get their damned progress.

    I have lost count of how many times I been near or got Paragon or w/e, and begging inside to myself for everyone to stay in the game, but no, some raqe quit, and bang, back to loading screen and the infernal queue system once again, all progress that game gone.

    /slow clap

    Seriously did you guys even test this rubbish before pushing it to live?

    So...

    Any improvements coming to BG on this vein @ZOS_GinaBruno , or implementing CP into the mix, or a game where some of the players are not level 10, or whatever?

    Cos it seriously needs a huge optimisation, so much potential in BG, I would not mind so much if BG was a feature of base game, but the fact is, a lot of us spent extra money on Morrowind for a variety of reasons.

    Now considering there are multiple threads of BG and its many issues, please get a grip and sort it out.
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  • Blobsky
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    sadownik wrote: »
    @Blobsky isnt that for broken quests in Morrowind?

    I hope not lmao
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Chufu wrote: »
    BGs are very funny WHEN successfully getting in.

    I can't understand why this is a problem on EU, is it better on NA-Server?

    Today I've been waiting 1.5 hours to get into a bg with my group (3 man, DK, Sorc, Warden), we tried to relogg/regroup in the time 8pm-9:30pm (German time), but well... waiting... ready check...waiting...ready check...annoying. :neutral:

    Sometimes we can play at night, but well....who has time to queue BGs in the time 11pm-3am? I've tested that while my holidays, but normally I can't play at night when I have to wake up early next morning.

    @Chufu It is the same on NA .
  • JasonSilverSpring
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    Niberion wrote: »
    Quests are important! Broken Bgs not, even if it's a main feature of Morrowind Expansion (sarcasm)

    The frustration regarding the Activity Finder queue issues is fair and understandable. We've had our Engineers prioritized on fixing them since Morrowind launched, and while we've identified and fixed some we still have work to do. We have a round of fixes that we're testing now and will push live with the next incremental patch. (The fixes we're testing are not ones we can roll out via a hotfix, as we can with tomorrow's quest issue fix.)

    Only fixing the quest issue.
  • Tryxus
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    @Blobsky isnt that for broken quests in Morrowind?

    I hope not lmao

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  • MisterBigglesworth
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    Sometimes it feels like every time you request to have something fixed on the forums, you're unknowingly holding a cursed monkey paw in your hand...
    Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
  • Blobsky
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    @Blobsky isnt that for broken quests in Morrowind?

    I hope not lmao

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    SIGH SIGH SIGH SIGH SIGH
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  • Draqone
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    Your frustration is completely understandable. We have been working very hard on addressing the issues relating to the Grouping Tool (which has been, in turn, affecting queuing for Battlegrounds). That said, we do have more fixes already scheduled for the next patch that should address issues where you accept the Ready Check, but then just go back into the queue. The fixes for this issue were done right before the weekend, so there wasn't time to get it into this morning's patch.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    The 2 most common issues are:

    1) Groups getting kicked out of dungeons.
    This is most probably caused by the ready check, which assigns a different instance ID. The group is formed and instantly removed from the instance, so ready check instance ID =/= forming group instance ID. Was not an issue before Homestead.

    2) "Someone declined an invite"
    This happens frequently, especially in groups of 4. It then places a group of 4 in the queue despite the fact we are obviously a full team. Gets stuck in a loop of: Forming Group > Someone Declined > Queued > Ready Check >Forming group.
    Probable cause is people accepting at the same time. When 2 or more players accept at the same time the "accepted" status is not flagged correctly and the server gets conflicting information.
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  • Rhoric
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    Rhoric wrote: »
    Or maybe you are doing something on your end that is causing the issue and it isn't ZOS fault at all. Like I don't know, maybe an add on.

    Except its just as, if not more, broken on console, which has no add-ons <3. New excuse please?

    Go away this is a PC topic so your comment is invalid.
  • Kalante
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    gootdude wrote: »
    It really is shame on us, as they've fooled as so many times and we keep giving them money.

    Goodbye ESO.

    Well they didn't fooled me. And i warned you all. I was told "Nostradamus" very rudely but who is laughing now?
  • Kram8ion
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    And the award for best click bait title of 2017 goes to op :)
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  • Sheey
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    This happens when a company decides to use an engine that never worked for something new.
    Edited by Sheey on June 20, 2017 12:58AM
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  • Morgul667
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    BG not working. That's getting old :-(
  • Prospero_ESO
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    sadownik wrote: »
    Just a thought guys, i play 5v5 in gw2 now and its a blast. Its f2p and you can go in 5v5 from the beginning - all players in pvp are max lvl with all skills unlocked, gear is stadarized and if you are using action camera mode controls are very much like in ESO.

    lmao GW2 is trash I would be embarrassed admitting that I played that game.

    Nahh come on, at least GW2 has RvR which performs way better and they have a working group finder, at least you have to give them that :smiley:
  • eso_lags
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno ill give you some exact issues, i know you wont read or acknowledge it, but ill take the time to write it anyway.. Xbox NA

    Grouping with other people and queing up /solo queing is not working, and i have seen other threads you have commented on that have showed video of this Gina. When you group it seems that the more people you have in group, the longer it takes to get in, sometimes going up to a half hour and people just give up. This issue isnt nearly as bad when you're solo but it does happen often.

    When the group finder for BG's says its ready check time, everyone hits the ready check and it will do one of 3 things:
    • bring you back into the que and offer a new ready check, saying that someone did not accept the que, rinse and repeat.
      (also it will either say one of 2 things. 1.someone in your group didnt accept the que, even if your solo, or 2. someone else didnt except the que and you have been moved to the front of the line)
    • Tell you its "forming group" and then bring you back to the que, then it will re que you again and tell you to accept to join. Rinse.And.Repeat. (this and the one above seem to happen more depending on how many players are in your group already, 1-3 others not counting yourself)
    • The last option is that it will say "forming group", actually form the group, and put you in BG's. Then all you have to worry about is facing the 2 other 4 man squads with yourself and the level 11 the group finder put you with. In a 2 man. For reasons unknown.

    There you go, its that simple. I know you guys are hearing it on many posts, i just made my second one earlier. Now in case someone at zos sees this. I love the game, like the people at zos, but i find 2 things very suspect.

    One i have seen bigger posts about issues that dont get a peep from you guys, but blobs does as the 21st post. Just typing that blows my mind.

    Two i cant solo pvp anymore and haven't been able to for like 4 months now due to insane lag on xbox (and groups benefit from lag), i mean i do it but its HELL. Not a peep about that, no acknowledgement, no reason to think you guys know or care about it. I just think its messed up that you guys only act when stuff is a certain way, or a certain thing, or a certain person, i just dont get why all the serious issues cant get a "hey ill pass it on" Or "we are working on it".

    And to anyone who would say zos cant respond to every post i am 100% aware of that, usually when they already have responded people know and will post it wherever someone is looking for zos to respond. However, when an issue continues for more than a few weeks, they need to start responding a lot more. The longer an issue goes on, the more people that are getting mad about it start to post.

    ispellbad
    Edited by eso_lags on June 20, 2017 4:36AM
  • Torbschka
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Oh, on top of that...

    Solo queues don't work either any more

    What, stay away with that patch, dont want it on console
  • Sheey
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    Developers and gamers need to sit together with eachother monthly and discuss game issues like this. (Via comunication plattform)
  • Cinbri
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    In Neverwinter que for pvp works same - you que, get ready check, if someone declined it cancelling and start new que. This que mechanic is viable, but only when actually working.
  • Blobsky
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    Queues now no longer even working for solo.

    Queued for 40 minutes on stream, got 0 games.

    Nice job as usual...
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  • WalksonGraves
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    ezeepeezee wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    New drinking game, every time ZOS asks for details on something they could test by playing their own game, you take a shot. If someone guesses what the first dev reply will be, everyone else has to take a shot.

    For what it's worth, we've been able to successfully get into multiple BGs on EU without issue, so yes. We do need details on what the exact issues are that blobs (or anyone) is still running into.

    It's funny how you never have problems on your side (so you release the patches after passing QA) but then we all still have the same problems on our side.
     

    You really think antagonizing Gina is going to solve anything?

    To be fair, I wasn't actually antagonizing Gina, I think it would be a legitimately funny drinking game.

    The player base is frustrated. I hadn't played ESO since Christmas 2016. I came back solely for Battlegrounds, as it is the single most desired feature for me. My guild is solely small group PVP oriented. 4 to 6 players max. Most of us quit playing over the past 4 months because of how stale and zergy pvp had become. We all get hyped, try to play BGs. and sit in queue for 3 hours without getting in a game. Then we see no sense of urgency on the part of ZOS to fix it, especially since the patch PC got today is not getting pushed live on console immediately. They're sticking it in an incremental 4 weeks from now instead of submitting it for certification today, which would have it live on console by 26 June.

    Harassing Gina is definitely not the way to go. But there has to be some acknowledgement on their part that this is ****ed and they need to get moving on fixing this. We paid for a service that isn't being delivered. That's not cool no matter what your opinion on anything else is.

    Your frustration is completely understandable. We have been working very hard on addressing the issues relating to the Grouping Tool (which has been, in turn, affecting queuing for Battlegrounds). That said, we do have more fixes already scheduled for the next patch that should address issues where you accept the Ready Check, but then just go back into the queue. The fixes for this issue were done right before the weekend, so there wasn't time to get it into this morning's patch.

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    Meanwhile lfg has been broken since launch...

    even if I get a group it doesn't port us in.
    Edited by WalksonGraves on June 22, 2017 12:57PM
  • Iyas
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Queues now no longer even working for solo.

    Queued for 40 minutes on stream, got 0 games.

    Nice job as usual...

    What a shame. You should make a nice vid from all the good waiting you have on Stream. Nicely visible for all the ppl who are potentially buyer. No one should buy morrowind with the broken Queue atm.
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  • Blobsky
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    Iyas wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Queues now no longer even working for solo.

    Queued for 40 minutes on stream, got 0 games.

    Nice job as usual...

    What a shame. You should make a nice vid from all the good waiting you have on Stream. Nicely visible for all the ppl who are potentially buyer. No one should buy morrowind with the broken Queue atm.

    So far I think I have told over 300 people not to buy the game - that is £9k from my stream alone that zos will never see. I imagine many videos and streamers say they same. I'd love to sell the game, but I'm not going to lie to a potential customer about how it 'works' - because it is simply 100% unusable
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    Blobsky wrote: »
    Queues now no longer even working for solo.

    Queued for 40 minutes on stream, got 0 games.

    Nice job as usual...

    What a shame. You should make a nice vid from all the good waiting you have on Stream. Nicely visible for all the ppl who are potentially buyer. No one should buy morrowind with the broken Queue atm.

    So far I think I have told over 300 people not to buy the game - that is £9k from my stream alone that zos will never see. I imagine many videos and streamers say they same. I'd love to sell the game, but I'm not going to lie to a potential customer about how it 'works' - because it is simply 100% unusable

    Well said sir, and if ZoS do not like this bad publicity, then fix the issues, they have had weeks, would not be so bad if it was base game, but many of us spent extra money for Morrowind.
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  • Autolycus
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    New drinking game, every time ZOS asks for details on something they could test by playing their own game, you take a shot. If someone guesses what the first dev reply will be, everyone else has to take a shot.

    For what it's worth, we've been able to successfully get into multiple BGs on EU without issue, so yes. We do need details on what the exact issues are that blobs (or anyone) is still running into.

    It's the exact same issues that have been present since this was first introduced on PTS. The details remain the same?

    I personally appreciate the time and effort spent to resolve it, but nobody has unlimited patience. Everyone saying "why did this go live with this many errors," or "how did this pass QA at all" - they aren't wrong. Constantly whining and casting judgment on ZOS employees doesn't speed the process up, however.

    It remains true that this was an integral part of this update, and the feedback both in-game and on the forums (including bug reports) have largely been unchanged since we first started testing it. Is EU not having these problems? Maybe try testing on NA then, where the problems occur. Spending an hour in queue, getting one kickback nonsense error message after another, and having to re-queue or even re-group repeatedly, is frustrating to no end. (Edit: I'd just like to point out that I haven't seen an in-game DM since beta. Maybe you'd have more success if you sent people out there with us to actually test this stuff first-hand, but there is no actual in-game involvement from anyone. Other MMOs do have this kind of presence in their community and go to great lengths to assure quality for such a highly-anticipated and desirable product).

    All that time spent waiting and re-trying, and we get put into partial and unbalanced teams usually in a Team Deathmatch that lasts 10 minutes, and then spending another hour in queue? It's ridiculous. Now maybe it's just my luck personally, but TD is not why I queue for BGs, and this is almost all I get after all the time waiting. I can organize a 4v4v4 in some Cyrodiil town and we can kill each other all afternoon if that's what we wanted, and it would take a fraction of the time. But there would be no objectives. And that's not what we asked for, nor were promised, nor already paid for.

    I understand how frustrating it is to encounter a problem that irritates the masses and proves to be much more difficult to resolve than one could have anticipated, really. But results speak for themselves nonetheless, business is my business and I see this stuff every day. Regardless of the reasons, if content isn't delivered as promised, especially after payment has been delivered already, people will lash out, word will spread, you will lose money. Most of us know and expect that ZOS will simply continue fighting a seemingly neverending battle against their own game system at this point, and just make up the lost revenue through crown store re-skins. What else could we expect after so long of getting only that anyway? It's not like this is a new problem, it's the same problem that now affects two major game systems instead of one.

    I think I speak for the minority who remains on ZOS's side here when I say that our patience is wearing quite thin. I wish I could tell you what the underlying problem is, but then you'd have paid me, not the other way around. I might be less frustrated if I could've used my crowns or sub to pay for this broken system, but the false advertising and change in business model (which I'm sure has been planned for 2+ years by now) undoubtedly supplemented the backlash ZOS is getting here. If I didn't have so many good friends that play ESO (and for other reasons, nobody I know is even trying BGs as this point anymore), I'd have quit too. Don't get me wrong; it's not as though there aren't other aspects of ESO I really enjoy. I just feel like my money was really spent on other content when I spent those dollars thinking I'd get BGs.
    Edited by Autolycus on June 22, 2017 3:55PM
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