Over 10 Million Players?

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2017

Sakiri wrote: »

Definitely not, but it does bump that number up a bunch.

Steam is still a solid snapshot of what a community might look like on a larger scale.

Pseron_Wyrd · June 2017

Sakiri wrote: »

I'd wager more people play without Steam.

For whatever it's worth, I'm one. I play on PC without Steam, as does one other member of my household.

OutLaw_Nynx · June 2017

I forget IC was a thing. Wish ZOS would do something with it.

Enslaved · June 2017

I have 2 accounts myself.

lagrue · June 2017

Pseron_Wyrd wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

I'd wager more people play without Steam.

For whatever it's worth, I'm one. I play on PC without Steam, as does one other member of my household.

I play this game on console - but when I do game on PC, I avoid Steam like the plague. Bad experiences with Steam - bought Tales of Zesteria - which by default is just incompatible with alot of machines because of some stupid sound issue (apparently my computer is "too good") And Steam refused to refund despite the fact I couldn't even start the game. There is a user made .dll out there - but no patch from the developer and Steam just laughs it off because they already got your $$

They also made modding certain games way stupider than it has to be. Steam = trash that imposes itself on an otherwise freedom granting game system.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

1mirg wrote: »

Yes, those numbers are real. They are combining the consoles and pc players though, which begs the question on how many pc and console players their really are but still, that is the real deal. There is 10 million players. Why do you think you can always find a toon in a zone questing/ exploring?

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

WoW had 12 million SUBSCRIBERS (aka active players) at its peak.

Active Subscribers does not equal active players. Most "subscribers" for mmo's like WoW tend to just leave their subscriptions running long after they stopped playing the game. I met alot of friends offline that did and still do, exactly that with that game.

Active player numbers is a different story but surprise, surprise. Blizzard stopped releasing "active player numbers" long ago. Unlike FFXIv and their census.

Nobody leaves a $15/month subscription running for a service they no longer use, unless they've died and didn't have a chance to cancel.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Pallmor wrote: »

Average number of ESO Steam players on at any time: 9,872:

http://steamcharts.com/app/306130

Even factoring in non-Steam PC players and console players, there is NO WAY that 10 million people are currently playing ESO. They may have sold 10 million *copies* of the game over the course of its 3 years (including the four copies I bought). But 10 million people currently playing? No way.

They said 10 million copies sold.

And only a small fraction of the player base plays this game on Steam.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

There's no way 10 million active accounts, it's for sure all accounts ever (even the many who have quit).

I'd say 500k is pushing it (on all platforms).

One thing to think is - they used the words "fight alongside players, friends, assassins, heroes" maybe they included all NPCs?
Not like there's millions of npcs but it's a possibility, you know immersion and all.

It's copies sold. It was 7 million two years ago. 8.5 million last year. 10 million now.

WhiteMage · June 2017

Here's the thing... the less good it looks the less they'll tell you about it. If they don't give you more information, it's not pretty enough to share. That's why WoW stopped releasing their sub numbers, and that's why ZOS will give you a number that for all intents and purposes they pulled out of their ass. It wouldn't make the numbers look any nicer if you knew where they actually came from.

Sakiri · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

Yes, those numbers are real. They are combining the consoles and pc players though, which begs the question on how many pc and console players their really are but still, that is the real deal. There is 10 million players. Why do you think you can always find a toon in a zone questing/ exploring?

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

WoW had 12 million SUBSCRIBERS (aka active players) at its peak.

Active Subscribers does not equal active players. Most "subscribers" for mmo's like WoW tend to just leave their subscriptions running long after they stopped playing the game. I met alot of friends offline that did and still do, exactly that with that game.

Active player numbers is a different story but surprise, surprise. Blizzard stopped releasing "active player numbers" long ago. Unlike FFXIv and their census.

Nobody leaves a $15/month subscription running for a service they no longer use, unless they've died and didn't have a chance to cancel.

Ex bf's dad left his WoW sub running for four years despite not playing it.

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

Yes, those numbers are real. They are combining the consoles and pc players though, which begs the question on how many pc and console players their really are but still, that is the real deal. There is 10 million players. Why do you think you can always find a toon in a zone questing/ exploring?

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

WoW had 12 million SUBSCRIBERS (aka active players) at its peak.

Active Subscribers does not equal active players. Most "subscribers" for mmo's like WoW tend to just leave their subscriptions running long after they stopped playing the game. I met alot of friends offline that did and still do, exactly that with that game.

Active player numbers is a different story but surprise, surprise. Blizzard stopped releasing "active player numbers" long ago. Unlike FFXIv and their census.

Nobody leaves a $15/month subscription running for a service they no longer use, unless they've died and didn't have a chance to cancel.

Thanks for that insight Go....errr MLG.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Sakiri wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

Yes, those numbers are real. They are combining the consoles and pc players though, which begs the question on how many pc and console players their really are but still, that is the real deal. There is 10 million players. Why do you think you can always find a toon in a zone questing/ exploring?

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

WoW had 12 million SUBSCRIBERS (aka active players) at its peak.

Active Subscribers does not equal active players. Most "subscribers" for mmo's like WoW tend to just leave their subscriptions running long after they stopped playing the game. I met alot of friends offline that did and still do, exactly that with that game.

Active player numbers is a different story but surprise, surprise. Blizzard stopped releasing "active player numbers" long ago. Unlike FFXIv and their census.

Nobody leaves a $15/month subscription running for a service they no longer use, unless they've died and didn't have a chance to cancel.

Ex bf's dad left his WoW sub running for four years despite not playing it.

Then he must be loaded, or senile.

khele23eb17_ESO · June 2017

lagrue wrote: »

Looking at units sold on day 1 or any amount of time for expansions is stupid, Morrowind included - I would hazard to guess that atleast 90% of those weren't first time buyers - but established players who wanted to expand their experience. If they already had 3 million players, then it wouldn't be surprising for them to sell 2.4 million copies on day 1 between old and new players.

What Im telling you is that while ESO has sold 10M units ( the stat boasted about here ), WoW has sold that number many times over (and yes I count each expansion as a unit). ZOS is not talking about active accounts when they talk about 10M players so neither am I in this case. Nothing to do with players in game except for ZOS's spin.

As for active accounts - we currently have no data to make a comparison.

Sakiri · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

1mirg wrote: »

Yes, those numbers are real. They are combining the consoles and pc players though, which begs the question on how many pc and console players their really are but still, that is the real deal. There is 10 million players. Why do you think you can always find a toon in a zone questing/ exploring?

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

WoW had 12 million SUBSCRIBERS (aka active players) at its peak.

Active Subscribers does not equal active players. Most "subscribers" for mmo's like WoW tend to just leave their subscriptions running long after they stopped playing the game. I met alot of friends offline that did and still do, exactly that with that game.

Active player numbers is a different story but surprise, surprise. Blizzard stopped releasing "active player numbers" long ago. Unlike FFXIv and their census.

Nobody leaves a $15/month subscription running for a service they no longer use, unless they've died and didn't have a chance to cancel.

Ex bf's dad left his WoW sub running for four years despite not playing it.

Then he must be loaded, or senile.

He wanted the option to just login and play if he ever got the time to.

Elvenpath · June 2017

Why the hell you guys are comparing ESO with WoW. Instead of sub counting, install 2 games, and check graphics. Elven out.

SantieClaws · June 2017

Khajiit thinks they mean that 10 million people have travelled in Tamriel at some point or another. This probably includes the free weekends.

As to the number of travellers presently in Tamriel - this one she thinks we will never ever know for sure. But as long as the gods they are happy and we are (sometimes) happy it probably doesn't matter.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Invincible · June 2017

Shadzilla wrote: »

IvorySamoan wrote: »

Um, Bethesda just confirmed it?

They were at 8.5 sold units half way through last year, so they've sold 1.5 million since then: super impressive, going to hit 12 I reckon soon with Morrowind just releasing and getting pretty great word of mouth.

ESO, actually now looking like that WoW killer it was touted to be so long ago lol.

Could have been if the launch 3 years ago was different. If blizzard ran this company we would have 50m+ subs, and it wouldn't be free to play.

It's not free to play. Without a sub 50% of your game time is devoted to filling up 8 mules with crafting mats.

ArchMikem · June 2017

10 million players registered over several years, is not the same thing as 10 million playing all at once.

Roovin · June 2017

I like how over half the posts in this thread are veiled attempts to bash ZOS.

This game is as healthy as ever.

snakester320 · June 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

10 million players registered over several years, is not the same thing as 10 million playing all at once.

Let's be honest the servers would just die with that many players could you imagine the lag and bs you get now x 9.95 million

Huyen · June 2017

Its probaly all platforms combined. Wich will take it over 10 mil easy.

sadownik · June 2017

10 milion individual accounts created from launch. That includes all those that have it on multiple platforms, multiple copies on single platform. Dont know but wonder if different people playing on their individual accounts on the same copy on consoles are counted separately? And what about reselling of the game on consoles?

Just to put it in perspective: http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/23/guild-wars-2-hits-7-million-players-as-expansion-launches on single platform and nobody will claim its WoW killer.

So summing it up, chill all whiteknights and fanpeople. I know you want some good news but thats not it.

Glaiceana · June 2017

That would be awesome if 10 million were playing right now. Also on the subject of Steam, I have around 200 games on there but still I did not want ESO through it. And I also only have one account.

alsuran · June 2017

I'm not sure how correct are these numbers: https://steamspy.com/app/306130

On Steam only:

Players in the last 2 weeks: 162,023 ± 12,132 (13.73%)
Players total: 1,105,416 ± 31,652 (93.66%)
Peak concurrent players yesterday: 16,902

They mentioned in the past that the number of users is split pretty evenly between the three platforms (PC, Xbox, PS4), so I guess about one third are Steam users on PC. The players in the last 2 weeks are supposed to be unique ids, number of people that have logged in at least once?

Since Steam accounts for only 11% of the total number of players, would that mean that in total there could be as many as 150,000+ concurrent players at peak time on all platforms and servers (NA/EU and PC/Xbox/PS4)?

The number seems pretty high to me, not sure if that's right.

PS: the site also mentions 38,000 owners for ESO: Morrowind ( https://steamspy.com/app/582880 ) ... once again, does it mean ~350,000 Morrowind sales if Steam has the same percentage of 11% of all games sold?

DaiKahn · June 2017

Banana wrote: »

WOw 123 Billion. People from other planets must play to.

Bring back the LOL button!!

KochDerDamonen · June 2017

10 Million accounts

If the active player count was that high, they would tell us that directly. It is clearly not 10 million active players, or anywhere near enough to throw the word "active" anywhere near it.

KerinKor · June 2017

Shadzilla wrote: »

Can anyone confirm this?

Literally unbelievable, no way even with it being F2P can ESO have gained nearly as many players as WOW did in its heyday and over twice what FFXIV can claim,

Elvenpath · June 2017

So why do you guys obsessed if its 10 million active or 10 millon total. Currently population is high enough to do everything. I can find any people on any time for whatever i need to do, dungeon, trial, bg etc.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2017

Roovin wrote: »

I like how over half the posts in this thread are veiled attempts to bash ZOS.

This game is as healthy as ever.

Hopefully more healthy then ever. Since launch we have had major direction changes. Major content reworks. And major changes in pricing. That does not scream a game in great health. Unless you are of the mind that the game has always been really really healthy and ZOS just decided they were not getting enough of your money.

Im of the mind ZOS is not out to screw us on purpose(usually), so the changes lead me to think the game has never been as successful as they hoped. So here is hoping the game is MORE successful then ever.

Knootewoot · June 2017

I think it's over 9000