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Toggle Solo Play for the Whole Game Option - Yes or No?
Darkstorne
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Would you like the option to toggle into your own solo phase for the entire game, to play it as a single player adventure while questing?
My first impression of Morrowind has been mostly highly positive, being able to revisit the land of the first TES game I played. That nostalgia hit is powerful! But then I see a bunch of other players doing something silly like crowding around Vivec spamming spells heavy on particle effects. Or something as simple as trying to play the intro quest in the ancestral tomb where the NPC is telling me it's just him and myself in there, but... man, it's swarming with other players and the game just wants me to pretend they aren't really here? It's a shame that my biggest problem with this game always ends up being the other players breaking my immersion, and the game refusing to make all quests solo adventures even though they're written to suggest they are.
I keep thinking the easiest solution to this would simply be an optional phase toggle. When you want some alone time, for questing or whatever, you could switch into a solo phase for the entire game. This already happens for many of the main quest dungeons and locations, so we know the tech is there. It probably still wouldn't solve issues like dungeons constantly respawning enemies before you've even left, but at least this could be a step in the right direction. Whenever you reach a public dungeon, world boss, or dolmen, you could simply toggle back to the normal shared world if you wanted help with the content.
Would anyone else like this option, or am I just getting too old and bitter?
I'm interested to see where most player's opinions fall on this matter.
Edited by Darkstorne on June 6, 2017 5:36PM My first impression of Morrowind has been mostly highly positive, being able to revisit the land of the first TES game I played. That nostalgia hit is powerful! But then I see a bunch of other players doing something silly like crowding around Vivec spamming spells heavy on particle effects. Or something as simple as trying to play the intro quest in the ancestral tomb where the NPC is telling me it's just him and myself in there, but... man, it's swarming with other players and the game just wants me to pretend they aren't really here? It's a shame that my biggest problem with this game always ends up being the other players breaking my immersion, and the game refusing to make all quests solo adventures even though they're written to suggest they are.
I keep thinking the easiest solution to this would simply be an optional phase toggle. When you want some alone time, for questing or whatever, you could switch into a solo phase for the entire game. This already happens for many of the main quest dungeons and locations, so we know the tech is there. It probably still wouldn't solve issues like dungeons constantly respawning enemies before you've even left, but at least this could be a step in the right direction. Whenever you reach a public dungeon, world boss, or dolmen, you could simply toggle back to the normal shared world if you wanted help with the content.
Would anyone else like this option, or am I just getting too old and bitter?
I'm interested to see where most player's opinions fall on this matter. Toggle Solo Play for the Whole Game Option - Yes or No? 338 votes
Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo Phase
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112 votes
No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo Phase
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186 votes
Meh, I wouldn't use it but I wouldn't care if others did
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40 votes
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseIts an MMO not and RPG that defeats the game price.PS4 EU DC
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The issue would be this would becoming a farming mechanic.
You own private world to farm bosses and nodes with no one around to contest or take kills before you get there.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Trashkan✭✭✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseYes why not just limit certain exploits and drops. But why would anyone but a bot user care about this. It would give us all precious mats to farm without dealing with botters. Plus how annoying is it when a new dlc drops you can't even find a delve boss for at least 20 min. Anyone that disagrees probably uses bots and sells mats like hot cakes.Edited by Trashkan on June 6, 2017 5:44PM1
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm even a nihilist, introvert, misanthrope at heart...
and this is still an MMO.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Meh, I wouldn't use it but I wouldn't care if others didI am mostly a lone wolf, but one of the reasons I like MMOs is because I can solo around other players. It makes the world feel alive. There's nothing I love more than walking through a busy city like Shornhelm or Mournhold in first person camera, admiring the character designs of other players and watching them go about their daily business. MMOs are just too big and empty without other players, so I'd never really want to play there.
...Though I might use this option for Cyrodiil. I'm too much of a carebear to even set foot in that zone while there's active PvP, so those quests and skyshards will likely be forever inaccessible to me. XDLiving vicariously through my characters.
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✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo Phaseleepalmer95 wrote: »Its an MMO not and RPG that defeats the game price.
To be precise its an MMORPG ... inspired by a solo RPG, and adding to it many MMO elements have just been ... planted on top of the original game architecture. Soooo, meep, you are wrong in the difinition of its current state and in relation to the game history and developement of ESO
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✭Where is the option about "yes but with exception" or "no but with exception"? Its so simple to make a pool that will cover all opinions using half open questions yet many people fail at it.
Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo Phase BUT when someone enters solo mode they wont get any anything ta all:
- no loot from kills and events
- no exp from kills and events
- no gold from kills and events
- no harvesting
- no ransacking sacks, containers, crates
All mentioned above is way of gaining things in ESO and all of that is influenced by presence of other players. If one can phase himself out of instance it would put him at advantage over other players and would be dream come true for botters. Thats why all of that should be disabled in solo state.3 -
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✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseThe issue would be this would becoming a farming mechanic.
You own private world to farm bosses and nodes with no one around to contest or take kills before you get there.
I would love it if we could have a single player experience but Id be concerned about this issue as well
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It is an MMO, but I don't think the definition has to be "constantly surrounded by other players". If that's your definition and gameplay preference then that's fine, but I quite like the approach that modern MMOs like Destiny take - keeping the vast majority of player interaction to a city hub and to group dungeons. You'll only bump into a few players out in the wild, unless there's a public event going on (similar to a dolmen).leepalmer95 wrote: »Its an MMO not and RPG that defeats the game price.
I regularly find myself wishing ESO had taken that approach too. The game and its quests are written as though all those other players don't exist. I've lost count of the number of times a quest NPC has pretended we're all alone yet I'm surrounded by other players running and jumping about. And I absolutely detest having to rush through all the dungeons in the game to avoid both the endless respawns and the chance that the boss has already been killed by players ahead of me, meaning I'll have to stand around waiting for it to reappear. That's just... not ideal to me. My preference would be solo dungeons with no respawns so I can take my time in them, and solo overworld environments except around group locations like dolmens and world bosses. But that would be a lot of effort for ZOS to implement, so I wonder if a simple toggle would work instead.
That's what comments are forMaximusDargus wrote: »Where is the option about "yes but with exception" or "no but with exception"? Its so simple to make a pool that will cover all opinions using half open questions yet many people fail at it. I kept the poll options simple to keep the broad opinions grouped.
Edited by Darkstorne on June 6, 2017 6:04PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Meh, I wouldn't use it but I wouldn't care if others didHeh, if they can't fix the groupfinder, this could be an option for those who play outside peak times and are struggling to find a group to do content.
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhasePlenti of games people can play solo. Plenty of tes game that are solo.2 -
AshTal✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseAlways happens with a new expansion but when I started Morrowind I could go through entire delves not seeing any monsters and having to camp the boss to get the complete. Luckily I could always tell where he spawned because 30 people were spamming AOE abilities.
While the MMO element is nice a lot of people would like to play the story without the atmosphere being ruined.0 -
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✭Who needs a toggle?
Decon all your gear for mats and make your own gear.
Sell everything else to a vendor.
Dont join a guild.
Avoid the forums and google.. people are there.
Pretend every player you see is a Non Player Character.
Turn off all chats.
Never do anything that says "group of X required".
You can literally solo 99% of the game.Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
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✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseMMOs must be a dying breed with all these solo play threads popping up every couple of days.3 -
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✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseSo you want to create seperate instances where bots / gold sellers can farm their stuff without getting disturbed or reported? Sounds like a very bad idea.3 -
theher0not✭✭✭✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseA solo mode doesn't work in MMOs. Solo content? sure, but not a solo only mode.2
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✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseNot Morrowind 2.
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✭✭✭✭✭This would mean the game would have to create a private instance of the current zone/map for every player in every map.
It worked great with GW1, but I don't think they have the server resources to do it for ESO besides the fact that it might also require a major recoding of the game which they are not going to do.Beta tester November 20130 -
eklhaftb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseThing is, ESO fails to make other players useful.
In a well-designed MMO, you should actually be glad to see other players around you, because they will help you earn better stuff, finish difficult events and kill strong enemies. In short, other players should be an asset, something that enhances your gameplay.
In ESO, though? In ESO, other players are an annoyance. Other players are those black silhouettes in the bank that make you wait for the banker NPC to appear. Other players are those silent sprinting phantoms who will appear out of nowhere to snatch a gathering node right under your nose. Other players are those mysterious strangers who will run through a delve fifteen second before you, leaving nothing but empty corridors for your enjoyment. Other players are those erratic clowns who run around a quest instance like a poorly shot boar, causing you to miss half of the story by triggering every encounter before you even finish talking with the NPCs.
It's a fundamentally flawed design caused by the functional dichotomy between the "Elder Scrolls" part and the "Online" part. Giving us a "solo toggle" - at least for delves, quest instances and banks - might be the easiest solution.6 -
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✭✭Right this minute game feels way overpopulated making it hard to get immersed but solo instance would break the game.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseGood grief, just no.
And that's coming from a soloer.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Meh, I wouldn't use it but I wouldn't care if others didYou enter an new zone everybody will be there so its get crowded, this has downsides, more players than enemies in delves.
Sneak missions who feel more like trials, it will pass, its however nice for new players
If you hate it do some other zone and come back in 14 days and things have cooled down.Grinding just make you go in circles.
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseElsterchen wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Its an MMO not and RPG that defeats the game price.
To be precise its an MMORPG ... inspired by a solo RPG, and adding to it many MMO elements have just been ... planted on top of the original game architecture. Soooo, meep, you are wrong in the difinition of its current state and in relation to the game history and developement of ESO .
Im pretty sure it was released as a MMORPG?
It has never seen shown as a single player RPG.
MMORPG, MMO it doesn't make a difference its the same thing MULTIPLAYER.PS4 EU DC
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✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseI would love for a feature like this. Then I can solo even more. While we are at it. Why not make group dungeons have a solo mode, Trials as well for that matter?1 -
Tyrobag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseGods that'd be nice... But there's no way they'd ever do it, giving every person a solo instance for everything would take up way too much resources. On top of that, they would never create a way to avoid having resource nodes stolen out from under you. Of course that said, there are still a bunch of places that should have been solo instances that aren't: Its just weird that Vivec's bedroom is full of strangers...0 -
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✭✭✭No, I don't think anyone should be allowed a Solo PhaseHow'd that work with a MMO server? Genuine curiosity, I don't know much about how it works. From my understanding, it sounds like the server(our poor, already struggling server) would have to host thousands of instances for all the players wanting to solo, keeping track of npcs, nodes, spawn timers etc etc for each and every one of them. That sounds like a truly awful idea. Am I missing something though? Does it work differently?
Even that aside though, I really don't think it's needed. I agree other players can be annoying sometimes but an all empty Tamriel just sounds so lonely I also feel like a way better idea would be just a tad more instancing on quests, other player definitely do break immersion when you port to some Oblivion plane to urgently close the portal and have to wait for it to respawn because someone just killed it. There's no reason that quest related locations that ate only accessible during quests shouldn't be instanced. It's already the case with main story, it should be with a lot more quests too. 0 -
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✭Yes, I would like the option to play in a Solo PhaseI think ability to play Solo would be nice, but Solo and MMO world should not be mixed. It would make bots' life sooo much easier.Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
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