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Another Nerf on DragonKnight Tank ...
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kunquatb16_ESO✭✭✭✭I feel you bro.
Has this game become- PLAY THE WAY DEVS WANT?
This is really saddning to see that every creative thinking of the players into new builds and game play is run over by Devs NERFTRUCK. What is even point of doign theorycrafting and comign up with these build ideas and then working towards gearand then, RIP.
@ZOS_RichLambert - Why not you just publish the build ideas your team have based on which you people decide to make changes to skills and we players can simply follow it? Seems like you are pushing us into that direction only...
If they are to force us all to use cookie cutter specs, least they can do is release those specs so we know...1 -
Tiitus✭✭✭✭whats funny is the the top 1% (uno the guys that justified ZoS to make all these big changes) has already used this to cheese through world first clears etc. once again this change will only effect the ppl who are having trouble and has never done it.19 -
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yes and I'm going to be a hipster and say I was using it before the update, started using it after 1 tam and switched out before homestead (the build was originally on tamriel foundry) its BORING AS SIN and also puts you in the position of effectively not being able to use the character for anything else. neither appealed to me.
also one of the first rules of any game, especially MMO's is never design builds around exploits OR broken mechanics, you will only end up disappointed and perhaps with a sore face when your crutch is kicked out from under you.Edited by Wing on June 5, 2017 12:24PMESO player since beta.
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People other than tanks use Equilibrium.....so out of touch.....please resign
That was in a different section than the "tank" DK section.
ZoS basically said, "Oooops..we forgot to change how Equilibrium works. We changed it to work like the other skills we changed in Update 14."Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.3 -
sebban✭✭✭✭"Tanks are stacking Stamina instead of Health! What do we do?"
"Nerf everything that scales with Stamina!"
"Tanks are stacking Health and getting bigger Shields since that is the only thing that scales! What do we do?"
"Nerf everything that scales with Health!"
"No one is playing tanks anymore since they only get nerfed even more when they figure out how to play with all the nerfs! What do we do?"
"...Nerf?"PC EU
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Obsidian Shield:
Reduced the strength of the damage shield you apply to allies to 10% of your max health, down from 15%.
Mages Guild
Equilibrium:
This ability and its morphs’ Health to Magicka trade value is now determined by your character level, instead of scaling with your Max Health; it restores 3000 Magicka for 6000 Health at Rank IV.
This ability and its morphs now reduce all of your healing done and damage shields you create by 50% for 4 seconds, instead of preventing you from healing yourself.
Thanks ZoS ...
You forgot to mention the part about the 200% increase on yourself. I know that there were some ridiculous health builds spamming shields, but they will still work. I don't think you can call it a "nerf" to DK tanks though, as it was a very niche thing that doesn't really work in content where not blocking an attack will see you eating a 70k+ hit.Edited by Saturn on June 5, 2017 12:28PM0 -
Insandros✭✭✭✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »Where is the nerf to shield spamming sorcs!
The difference is, the shield spamming sorc does it on himself, the DK does it on all allies, so imagine a tank with 78k health bar shielding all alies...., that what was nerfed and the self shield stays, as stated under the paragraph in the notes:
« Dragonknights stacking Max Health could create extremely powerful damage shields on multiple allies at the same time, making some encounters easier than intended. We’ve kept the damage shield strength on the casting Dragonknight the same, while making it less effective on allies. »Edited by Insandros on June 5, 2017 12:30PM1 -
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ifDoubtNerfIt✭✭✭ExcaliburESO wrote: »Where is the nerf to shield spamming sorcs!
The difference is, the shield spamming sorc does it on himself, the DK does it on all allies, so imagine a tank with 78k health bar shielding all alies...., that what was nerfed and the self shield stays, as stated under the paragraph in the notes:
« Dragonknights stacking Max Health could create extremely powerful damage shields on multiple allies at the same time, making some encounters easier than intended. We’ve kept the damage shield strength on the casting Dragonknight the same, while making it less effective on allies. »
Think you forgot this:
Equilibrium:
This ability and its morphs’ Health to Magicka trade value is now determined by your character level, instead of scaling with your Max Health; it restores 3000 Magicka for 6000 Health at Rank IV.
This ability and its morphs now reduce all of your healing done and damage shields you create by 50% for 4 seconds, instead of preventing you from healing yourself.0 -
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Jamascus✭✭✭✭@ZOS_RichLambert, @Wrobel
People other than tanks use Equilibrium.....so out of touch.....please resign
That was in a different section than the "tank" DK section.
ZoS basically said, "Oooops..we forgot to change how Equilibrium works. We changed it to work like the other skills we changed in Update 14."
I know, and if they would have left the rest of the skill alone it would be ok. However this is a nerf to the ability to heal group members on top of sustain, healers didn't need any more nerfs.1 -
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Insandros✭✭✭✭@ifDoubtNerfItifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »ExcaliburESO wrote: »Where is the nerf to shield spamming sorcs!
The difference is, the shield spamming sorc does it on himself, the DK does it on all allies, so imagine a tank with 78k health bar shielding all alies...., that what was nerfed and the self shield stays, as stated under the paragraph in the notes:
« Dragonknights stacking Max Health could create extremely powerful damage shields on multiple allies at the same time, making some encounters easier than intended. We’ve kept the damage shield strength on the casting Dragonknight the same, while making it less effective on allies. »
Think you forgot this:
Equilibrium:
This ability and its morphs’ Health to Magicka trade value is now determined by your character level, instead of scaling with your Max Health; it restores 3000 Magicka for 6000 Health at Rank IV.
This ability and its morphs now reduce all of your healing done and damage shields you create by 50% for 4 seconds, instead of preventing you from healing yourself.
I didn't forgot anything, the thread was about the DK, not the Mage Guild stuff, so i simply pasted what was about the DK skill lines.
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✭@ifDoubtNerfItifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »ExcaliburESO wrote: »Where is the nerf to shield spamming sorcs!
The difference is, the shield spamming sorc does it on himself, the DK does it on all allies, so imagine a tank with 78k health bar shielding all alies...., that what was nerfed and the self shield stays, as stated under the paragraph in the notes:
« Dragonknights stacking Max Health could create extremely powerful damage shields on multiple allies at the same time, making some encounters easier than intended. We’ve kept the damage shield strength on the casting Dragonknight the same, while making it less effective on allies. »
Think you forgot this:
Equilibrium:
This ability and its morphs’ Health to Magicka trade value is now determined by your character level, instead of scaling with your Max Health; it restores 3000 Magicka for 6000 Health at Rank IV.
This ability and its morphs now reduce all of your healing done and damage shields you create by 50% for 4 seconds, instead of preventing you from healing yourself.
I didn't forgot anything, the thread was about the DK, not the Mage Guild stuff, so i simply pasted what was about the DK skill lines.
hmmmm, when did Equilibrium become a DK skill line???
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1) Update goes to PTS
2) Players provide feedback
3) Devs don't listen to anything that doesn't fit their agenda
4) Update goes live
5) Devs realise what they had been told was correct and the nerfbat swings mightily for weeks after.
ZOS: where am I wrong here?
You forgot this one!
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The 2 nerfs are directly connected based on Halls of Fabrication gameplay style people decided to come up with.@ifDoubtNerfItifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »ExcaliburESO wrote: »Where is the nerf to shield spamming sorcs!
The difference is, the shield spamming sorc does it on himself, the DK does it on all allies, so imagine a tank with 78k health bar shielding all alies...., that what was nerfed and the self shield stays, as stated under the paragraph in the notes:
« Dragonknights stacking Max Health could create extremely powerful damage shields on multiple allies at the same time, making some encounters easier than intended. We’ve kept the damage shield strength on the casting Dragonknight the same, while making it less effective on allies. »
Think you forgot this:
Equilibrium:
This ability and its morphs’ Health to Magicka trade value is now determined by your character level, instead of scaling with your Max Health; it restores 3000 Magicka for 6000 Health at Rank IV.
This ability and its morphs now reduce all of your healing done and damage shields you create by 50% for 4 seconds, instead of preventing you from healing yourself.
I didn't forgot anything, the thread was about the DK, not the Mage Guild stuff, so i simply pasted what was about the DK skill lines.
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getemshauna✭✭✭✭✭They really didn't like the new health tank thing it seems.
New? Liofa was using it (and he is a main creator of this build) when most of the tanks considered balance as a useless skill.Founder of Call of the Undaunted
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Great This patch didn't nerf my DK. It killed it. Two skills that i've built around. I guess i'll join Green Pact\Plague Doctor HP-tanks crowd now...2 -
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The 2 nerfs are directly connected based on Halls of Fabrication gameplay style people decided to come up with.@ifDoubtNerfItifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »ExcaliburESO wrote: »Where is the nerf to shield spamming sorcs!
The difference is, the shield spamming sorc does it on himself, the DK does it on all allies, so imagine a tank with 78k health bar shielding all alies...., that what was nerfed and the self shield stays, as stated under the paragraph in the notes:
« Dragonknights stacking Max Health could create extremely powerful damage shields on multiple allies at the same time, making some encounters easier than intended. We’ve kept the damage shield strength on the casting Dragonknight the same, while making it less effective on allies. »
Think you forgot this:
Equilibrium:
This ability and its morphs’ Health to Magicka trade value is now determined by your character level, instead of scaling with your Max Health; it restores 3000 Magicka for 6000 Health at Rank IV.
This ability and its morphs now reduce all of your healing done and damage shields you create by 50% for 4 seconds, instead of preventing you from healing yourself.
I didn't forgot anything, the thread was about the DK, not the Mage Guild stuff, so i simply pasted what was about the DK skill lines.This is why you should never share your build ideas. I'm sure Battlemaster's Corner is just going to be a nerf trap..
Theorycrafters stop sharing stuff xD. You give the devs to many crazy ideas.4
