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    Keep_Door wrote: »
    If its such an important "holiday" why would you be sitting at your computer playing games and not spending it with family and freinds?
    I've lost my family and I play ESO with my RL friends. I hope this answers your slightly improvident question.
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    Turelus wrote: »
    If we're not going to do maintenance when a country or region has a holiday, we might be waiting for a while for that maintenance...

    https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/ (scroll down)

    its not like this is a one country holiday tough...and the time pc starts and is usually done is literally the whole damn day

    The only reason the brits don't celebrate tomorrow is cause theyre all pagans
    Edited by Nemesis7884 on June 4, 2017 1:21PM
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  • FloppyTouch
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    What holiday is this?

    //shoots guns drink beer #america
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    Wouldn't it be fun if the Devs, while playing the game, got players together for an event?
    Edited by Iccotak on June 4, 2017 1:34PM
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    Just get Dr. Who to loan the Tardis to ZOS and you all will be fine.
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    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch an expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
    Edited by lagrue on June 4, 2017 2:19PM
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    What holiday is this?

    //shoots guns drink beer #america

    Penetecostal monday - on our side of the world, in North American, its called Whit Monday but nobody except extremely fundamental religious people celebrate it. It's nowhere near in the league of Xmas where its expanded to be a social and commercial holiday - Whit Monday is still 100% religious, that's why we don't observe it. It would be like expecting ZOS not to do maintenance on Good Friday, Ash Wednesday or a million other trivial religious holidays. Should we stop maintenance all through Ramadan as well? Where does it end?

    Just my 2 cents, but Zenimax being an AMERICAN company, should observe AMERICAN holidays - not the rest of the world's, or else we'll end up in a circle jerk of never doing anything - because let's face it, it's a holiday somewhere, for somebody, for something - every single day.
    Edited by lagrue on June 4, 2017 2:16PM
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    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.

    Nice rant, but...

    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Yes, Morrowind has been lined-up for release for a while now, but why didn't they give that release date a little more consideration? Those national holidays have been in place for a bit longer than ESO has been in business :)

    A bit of forethought would have avoided this problem, and guess what... nobody would have complained about a release date one week later.

    Particularly if ESO had used that extra week wisely fixing bugs...

    It doesn't affect me because we don't have that holiday in the UK, and I have early access to Morrowind in any case, but I see no reason to get all bent out of shape because other people aren't happy about the timing. Why so angry?
    Edited by I_killed_Vivec on June 4, 2017 2:17PM
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    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.


    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.

    I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.

    Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?
    Edited by lagrue on June 4, 2017 2:23PM
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    lagrue wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.

    Nice rant, but...

    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Yes, Morrowind has been lined-up for release for a while now, but why didn't they give that release date a little more consideration? Those national holidays have been in place for a bit longer than ESO has been in business :)

    A bit of forethought would have avoided this problem, and guess what... nobody would have complained about a release date one week later.

    Particularly if ESO had used that extra week wisely fixing bugs...

    It doesn't affect me because we don't have that holiday in the UK, and I have early access to Morrowind in any case, but I see no reason to get all bent out of shape because other people aren't happy about the timing. Why so angry?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, big difference, case closed.

    Global product, global playerbase, global infrastructure - EU server in Germany - kind of hints at global company...

    Apple is incorporated in the US, but is a global company.

    So, case reopened...

    And again, why so angry? Does it make any difference to you?
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    hehe
  • lagrue
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    lagrue wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.

    Nice rant, but...

    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Yes, Morrowind has been lined-up for release for a while now, but why didn't they give that release date a little more consideration? Those national holidays have been in place for a bit longer than ESO has been in business :)

    A bit of forethought would have avoided this problem, and guess what... nobody would have complained about a release date one week later.

    Particularly if ESO had used that extra week wisely fixing bugs...

    It doesn't affect me because we don't have that holiday in the UK, and I have early access to Morrowind in any case, but I see no reason to get all bent out of shape because other people aren't happy about the timing. Why so angry?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, big difference, case closed.

    Global product, global playerbase, global infrastructure - EU server in Germany - kind of hints at global company...

    Apple is incorporated in the US, but is a global company.

    So, case reopened...

    And again, why so angry? Does it make any difference to you?

    I'm not angry - I did edit my response to your to explain this - I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call an entire company "low" for not observing their holiday - why are you playing devil's advocate?

    Do you also think Zenimax should stop any updates/releases/maintenance during Ramadan?

    Ramadan 2017 began in the evening of
    Friday, May 26
    and ends in the evening of
    Saturday, June 24

    If so - then your joking idea of releasing a week earlier would have cause problems for somebody else - and it's a cycle that would never end. It is ALWAYS a holiday somewhere, for somebody.

    Zeinmax Studios is based in America, its employees observe American holidays - it's REALLY not difficult to grasp.
    Edited by lagrue on June 4, 2017 2:27PM
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    lagrue wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.


    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.

    I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.

    Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?

    From their wiki page...

    " ZeniMax is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in Asia / Asia Pacific, Australia and Europe (Germany, France, Benelux)."

    Sounds quite global... at least global enough to be culturally aware, if not sensitive :)

    As for Ramadan - kind of showing your ignorance there. It isn't a "holiday", people carry on with their normal lives, working, studying, etc. It's just refraining from certain practices during the day - in particular fasting from dawn to dusk.

    Azura would approve :)
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    Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?
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    lagrue wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.


    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.

    I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.

    Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?

    From their wiki page...

    " ZeniMax is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in Asia / Asia Pacific, Australia and Europe (Germany, France, Benelux)."

    Sounds quite global... at least global enough to be culturally aware, if not sensitive :)

    As for Ramadan - kind of showing your ignorance there. It isn't a "holiday", people carry on with their normal lives, working, studying, etc. It's just refraining from certain practices during the day - in particular fasting from dawn to dusk.

    Azura would approve :)

    I don't know how else to explain this to you - but the main HQ being in America, makes it an American company still. Having branches in other countries is a must - it doesn't take away from the fact that its an American company at the end of the day - and be real, the development happens in the US - the people working on the game actively are in the US, so they go by their own holidays.

    Digital Extremes doesn't do updates on Warframe on Canada day because they're a Canadian company, despite providing their products and services to the world.
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    Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?

    Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.
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    lagrue wrote: »
    What holiday is this?

    //shoots guns drink beer #america

    Penetecostal monday - on our side of the world, in North American, its called Whit Monday but nobody except extremely fundamental religious people celebrate it. It's nowhere near in the league of Xmas where its expanded to be a social and commercial holiday - Whit Monday is still 100% religious, that's why we don't observe it. It would be like expecting ZOS not to do maintenance on Good Friday, Ash Wednesday or a million other trivial religious holidays. Should we stop maintenance all through Ramadan as well? Where does it end?

    Just my 2 cents, but Zenimax being an AMERICAN company, should observe AMERICAN holidays - not the rest of the world's, or else we'll end up in a circle jerk of never doing anything - because let's face it, it's a holiday somewhere, for somebody, for something - every single day.

    to be fair tough you have a BAZILLION holidays in the us - MANY more than most european countries have - so give us this one ok??
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    Keep_Door wrote: »
    If its such an important "holiday" why would you be sitting at your computer playing games and not spending it with family and freinds?

    because its a holiday not a tortureday
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.

    I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.

    Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?

    If Islam had cultural ties to the US and Europe beyond a few wars of conquest 600 years ago, maybe that would be a point of discussion. But in this timeline, Christian based holidays are a thing and pretending they don't or shouldn't exist isn't going to change the effect on the client.

    OP is right to complain. To give an example, the company I work for is stationed in one country, but provides service to almost all of Europe, and guess what we do. We have a list with all the bank holidays of the countries we service, and if it's a bank holiday in our country, but not in the country we're assigned to, we come to work on our holiday just for them. Client-oriented service: crazy, right?

    In ZOS's case, it would be vice versa - not fiddling with the backend when the country is on holiday and people want to play the game.

    In either case, you pay attention to the holidays of the country you're providing services to, and adapt accordingly. Christian holidays happen to be a thing in the western world, and often lead to bank holidays. Who'da thunk it, right? It doesn't kill you to be prepared a little bit.
    Edited by vestahls on June 4, 2017 2:49PM
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    lagrue wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    lagrue wrote: »
    I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....

    are you serious lol? like 100% serious?

    They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?

    Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.

    Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.


    Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?

    Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.

    I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.

    Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?

    From their wiki page...

    " ZeniMax is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in Asia / Asia Pacific, Australia and Europe (Germany, France, Benelux)."

    Sounds quite global... at least global enough to be culturally aware, if not sensitive :)

    As for Ramadan - kind of showing your ignorance there. It isn't a "holiday", people carry on with their normal lives, working, studying, etc. It's just refraining from certain practices during the day - in particular fasting from dawn to dusk.

    Azura would approve :)

    I don't know how else to explain this to you - but the main HQ being in America, makes it an American company still. Having branches in other countries is a must - it doesn't take away from the fact that its an American company at the end of the day - and be real, the development happens in the US - the people working on the game actively are in the US, so they go by their own holidays.

    Digital Extremes doesn't do updates on Warframe on Canada day because they're a Canadian company, despite providing their products and services to the world.

    But why does being an American company stop them from being aware of other countries' holidays?

    Why say that branches in other countries is a must if you don't make adjustments to those countries needs?

    What you refuse to address is that with a little foresight they could have set the release of Morrowind to be one week later. Nobody would have cared, nobody would even have known. It would have upset nobody and would not have caused the annoyance that some will experience. Less pressure on the developers, more time to fix bugs.

    A win-win solution that, purely because of lack of foresight, they miss out on. A moment's thought in the planning division would have avoided this.

    As I said, it makes no difference to me, but clearly it does to some. And you don't have to be a genius to see how they could have avoided this.

    (Also, and I won't get into this here, they usually show a lack of interest - to put it politely - in the EU playerbase. This isn't the first instance of a lack of consideration to people not in North America.)
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    What are you asking for?

    Do you wan't morrowind to be delayed?!!!

    This thread is pointless...
    Edited by KingYogi415 on June 4, 2017 3:03PM
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?

    Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.

    And why do they celebrate it on Veteran's day? The day America celebrates it's bravest warriors who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend the world against evil and protect freedom and real democracy? It's almost an insult, lol PEACE day.
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?

    Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.

    And why do they celebrate it on Veteran's day? The day America celebrates it's bravest warriors who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend the world against evil and protect freedom and real democracy? It's almost an insult, lol PEACE day.

    Gods help this veteran... It used to be Armistice Day here in the US as well. It marked the end World War I, hoped to be the "war to end all wars" because of its destruction and loss of life.
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    Desdenada Jof, Ebonheart Pact, High Elf, Sorcerer: "Righteousness is its own edict."
    Joffi da Rat, Aldmeri Dominion, Wood Elf, Nightblade: "Bah, this is not the way..."
    Indigo sal'Ma'Nefic, Daggerfall Covenant, Redguard, Dragonknight: "For glory!"
  • newtinmpls
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    This is at least the third thread about this... You people sound like addicts.

    You say that like it's a bad thing....
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • lagrue
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    lagrue wrote: »
    Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?

    Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.

    And why do they celebrate it on Veteran's day? The day America celebrates it's bravest warriors who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend the world against evil and protect freedom and real democracy? It's almost an insult, lol PEACE day.

    It's called Remembrance day here in Canada... and they observe it for the exact same reason. There's nothing insulting about it - the day, November 11th, marks the day an ARMISTICE was signed - most of the world knows about it, its called the Treaty of Versailles.

    (Insert name calling and flaming here) - you don't even know the history of the World Wars, yet here you are insulting the names of holidays. That ARMISTICE is what ended the Great War. You just shamed each and every veteran of your country, good job.

    Thanks for further perpetuating that our continent is stupid.

    Why don't you educate yourself on history:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles
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    Edited by lagrue on June 4, 2017 3:17PM
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  • mwo1480
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    Keep_Door wrote: »
    If its such an important "holiday" why would you be sitting at your computer playing games and not spending it with family and freinds?

    actually we also do that, and even lot of places have fairs for this holiday (atleast in my country)
    what u may not know it that the maintaince hours since they do them at same time as the us one, if for lot of eu places later on the day ,u know the time u get home from family /friends / fairs and when u wanna play some eso cuz u have to work the next day

    edit~ tbh i (and would quess most ) would not have complain about this if they didnt switch maintaince day for Memorial Day last week
    or if they showed they did care about eu and do the maintaince old school earlyer on the day so we wouldnt even notice it
    Edited by mwo1480 on June 4, 2017 4:48PM
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    every char has a story

    anne-susan ...breton sorch DC
    seline kay .... bosmer dk AD
    elle wolf .... breton temp AD
    fluffy meowmeow... khajiit-nightblade AD
    Lynphia Moonlit ...Woodmer-arcanist AD
  • essi2
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    The only holidays ZOS should 'respect' are holidays where either the US or EU serverhost is not staffed to handle server maintenance.

    That they even do that is abit odd, as I would have assumed data centers would keep 7 days a week 24 hours a day shifts going.
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  • Narvuntien
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    Wow I had literially never heard of Whit sunday... other than the set of islands called the whitsundays.... or Whit monday the holiday in question here.

    Still it is also a holiday for me... going to suck not being able to spend my afternoon time off playing ESO.... I'll just have to play a different game. *shrug*.
  • O_LYKOS
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    No holiday for me and I'm in Europe.

    No matter what day, what time, someone somewhere is going to be effected.
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