If we're not going to do maintenance when a country or region has a holiday, we might be waiting for a while for that maintenance...
https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/ (scroll down)
Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
FloppyTouch wrote: »What holiday is this?
//shoots guns drink beer #america
Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
Nice rant, but...
Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
Yes, Morrowind has been lined-up for release for a while now, but why didn't they give that release date a little more consideration? Those national holidays have been in place for a bit longer than ESO has been in business
A bit of forethought would have avoided this problem, and guess what... nobody would have complained about a release date one week later.
Particularly if ESO had used that extra week wisely fixing bugs...
It doesn't affect me because we don't have that holiday in the UK, and I have early access to Morrowind in any case, but I see no reason to get all bent out of shape because other people aren't happy about the timing. Why so angry?
Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, big difference, case closed.
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
Nice rant, but...
Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
Yes, Morrowind has been lined-up for release for a while now, but why didn't they give that release date a little more consideration? Those national holidays have been in place for a bit longer than ESO has been in business
A bit of forethought would have avoided this problem, and guess what... nobody would have complained about a release date one week later.
Particularly if ESO had used that extra week wisely fixing bugs...
It doesn't affect me because we don't have that holiday in the UK, and I have early access to Morrowind in any case, but I see no reason to get all bent out of shape because other people aren't happy about the timing. Why so angry?
Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, big difference, case closed.
Global product, global playerbase, global infrastructure - EU server in Germany - kind of hints at global company...
Apple is incorporated in the US, but is a global company.
So, case reopened...
And again, why so angry? Does it make any difference to you?
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.
I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.
Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.
I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.
Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?
From their wiki page...
" ZeniMax is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in Asia / Asia Pacific, Australia and Europe (Germany, France, Benelux)."
Sounds quite global... at least global enough to be culturally aware, if not sensitive
As for Ramadan - kind of showing your ignorance there. It isn't a "holiday", people carry on with their normal lives, working, studying, etc. It's just refraining from certain practices during the day - in particular fasting from dawn to dusk.
Azura would approve
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?
FloppyTouch wrote: »What holiday is this?
//shoots guns drink beer #america
Penetecostal monday - on our side of the world, in North American, its called Whit Monday but nobody except extremely fundamental religious people celebrate it. It's nowhere near in the league of Xmas where its expanded to be a social and commercial holiday - Whit Monday is still 100% religious, that's why we don't observe it. It would be like expecting ZOS not to do maintenance on Good Friday, Ash Wednesday or a million other trivial religious holidays. Should we stop maintenance all through Ramadan as well? Where does it end?
Just my 2 cents, but Zenimax being an AMERICAN company, should observe AMERICAN holidays - not the rest of the world's, or else we'll end up in a circle jerk of never doing anything - because let's face it, it's a holiday somewhere, for somebody, for something - every single day.
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.
I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.
Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?
I_killed_Vivec wrote: »I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »I mean i understand that ZOS doesnt seem to care much about european players...but doing maintenace that will probably last the whole day on a major european holiday (and i think us too?) is a new low even for zos standards...it seems only us specific holidays matter....
are you serious lol? like 100% serious?
They're preparing to launch a *** expansion, they have bigger tasks at hand then pandering to 'European' holidays (which we actually do have here, just nobody expects the world to stop for it). Do you really expect them to just not release the product they've had slated for over half a year now? Do you REALLY expect that? Or are you just making a fool of yourself for no reason?
Enjoy your "holiday" aka an excuse to sit on the computer all day. If anything most people should be happy it's on a holiday - because holidays are generally reserved for family time - but we all know that's not actually the case here, a holiday in your eyes is just the equivalent of a day off work - and you're mad that maintenance (which is actually to set up launch of a product) coincides with day off.
Sorry you lost your family or w/e but that's not Zenimax problem and expecting them to bring their business to a halt so you can play a game on your holiday is just sad and pathetic.
Why shouldn't a global company, offering a global product played by a global membership, be aware of issues beyond their own national borders?
Simple - ZOS isn't a "global company" - they're an American company that provides a global product, they observe american holidays, big difference, case closed.
I'm not "mad" I just think it's pathetic somebody is going to sit there and call ZOS "low" for not observing their holiday.
Again I ask, should we also stop for holidays like Ramadan that last 1 month long?
From their wiki page...
" ZeniMax is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in Asia / Asia Pacific, Australia and Europe (Germany, France, Benelux)."
Sounds quite global... at least global enough to be culturally aware, if not sensitive
As for Ramadan - kind of showing your ignorance there. It isn't a "holiday", people carry on with their normal lives, working, studying, etc. It's just refraining from certain practices during the day - in particular fasting from dawn to dusk.
Azura would approve
I don't know how else to explain this to you - but the main HQ being in America, makes it an American company still. Having branches in other countries is a must - it doesn't take away from the fact that its an American company at the end of the day - and be real, the development happens in the US - the people working on the game actively are in the US, so they go by their own holidays.
Digital Extremes doesn't do updates on Warframe on Canada day because they're a Canadian company, despite providing their products and services to the world.
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?
Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?
Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.
And why do they celebrate it on Veteran's day? The day America celebrates it's bravest warriors who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend the world against evil and protect freedom and real democracy? It's almost an insult, lol PEACE day.
bottleofsyrup wrote: »This is at least the third thread about this... You people sound like addicts.
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Why don't you EU people just change your holiday schedule to ours? It would really streamline things a lot. And stop giving your holidays funny names! Armistice day? What does Armistice even mean? And Assumption? What is the assumption exactly? That you are getting a day off?
Armistice is when two sides of a war agree to temporary peace... jesus... you just made all of us North Americans look bad.
And why do they celebrate it on Veteran's day? The day America celebrates it's bravest warriors who made the ultimate sacrifice to defend the world against evil and protect freedom and real democracy? It's almost an insult, lol PEACE day.
If its such an important "holiday" why would you be sitting at your computer playing games and not spending it with family and freinds?